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Offline DWAEDGIMORIGUKBAP

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Re: Unfair post deletions by MODS
« Reply #180 on: June 10, 2011, 09:02:00 am »
ah yes, right.  i do need to get a handle on the not going to far off the topic thing.  sorry about that.
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Re: Unfair post deletions by MODS
« Reply #181 on: June 10, 2011, 10:16:06 am »
I smell a rat.

Define a rat.

I was only trying to bring attention to a topic that would/could have benefited the users of this site. There's nothing wrong with calling bull#$%# on a bull#$%#er.

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Re: Unfair post deletions by MODS
« Reply #182 on: June 10, 2011, 10:42:22 am »
You need to bear in mind that this is a personal website that's available to the public. It exists as a courtesy, not a right. If you don't like the way it is run, there are better ways to express your feedback than "calling bull**** on a bull****ter." You can always go find a new free site that provides the same resources and services -- and good luck.

If you've got a serious problem with the admins or mods you need to send someone an even-mannered message. Posting a thread to set up a b***h fit for anyone with a grudge isn't the way to go.

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Re: Unfair post deletions by MODS
« Reply #183 on: June 10, 2011, 11:07:16 am »
You need to bear in mind that this is a personal website that's available to the public. It exists as a courtesy, not a right. If you don't like the way it is run, there are better ways to express your feedback than "calling bull**** on a bull****ter." You can always go find a new free site that provides the same resources and services -- and good luck.

If you've got a serious problem with the admins or mods you need to send someone an even-mannered message. Posting a thread to set up a b***h fit for anyone with a grudge isn't the way to go.

Meh... he was just trying to help us out.  And now he is muted for it (which does seem a bit unreasonable).  Maybe he could have done it in a more tactful manner but what he was doing wasn't really inappropriate.

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Re: Unfair post deletions by MODS
« Reply #184 on: June 10, 2011, 11:12:35 am »
I just had a warning for harassment, which I deny of course.

Do any mods ever issue warnings for idiocy?  There should be many of these given the inane topics that are raised.

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Re: Concerned over the direction the site is taking.
« Reply #185 on: June 10, 2011, 11:20:10 am »
im wondering if its possible to modify the "most recently updated topics" section to have a general discussion part, and a teaching/lesson plans part

....or maybe i can be less lazy and just do some more clicking to go to the teaching specific part....shoot  :-X

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Re: Concerned over the direction the site is taking.
« Reply #186 on: June 10, 2011, 11:26:41 am »
Why is a thread allowed about hangovers at work?  I am the person who reported it.

A mod stated that despite being unprofessional, it does not violate the TOS, and thus will stay.

I thought this was supposed to be a professional website.  There's a lot of talk about cleaning up the site, which I agree with.  How can that be done when we allow these unprofessional threads?
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Re: Unfair post deletions by MODS
« Reply #187 on: June 10, 2011, 11:30:16 am »
You need to bear in mind that this is a personal website that's available to the public. It exists as a courtesy, not a right. If you don't like the way it is run, there are better ways to express your feedback than "calling bull**** on a bull****ter." You can always go find a new free site that provides the same resources and services -- and good luck.

If you've got a serious problem with the admins or mods you need to send someone an even-mannered message. Posting a thread to set up a b***h fit for anyone with a grudge isn't the way to go.

Meh... he was just trying to help us out.  And now he is muted for it (which does seem a bit unreasonable).  Maybe he could have done it in a more tactful manner but what he was doing wasn't really inappropriate.

Why is he muted? How does that benefit the community? And it can be a personal website, but yet the owners are asking for money from the community that they are supporting. In some ways, it is almost not a personal website anymore. If they didn't like what I said and didn't ask for my money, I'd be angry, but I'd leave. However, since they ask for donations and pushed that pretty hard a couple of months ago, everybody has a stake in the site. The last couple of weeks, I think the mods went nuts and decided that what their personal opinion was is the way things should be. That is called a dictatorship.

Yeah, do what you like to my post. Delete it like you guys did with my earlier posting about coming to work with a hang over. I don't really care. This site is really losing it's charm.

If you are worried about people saying whatever, then there should be  section that is for people to blow off steam or to pose questions or to ask if "Korea post accepts credit cards". Not everyone wants to cause trouble, and by blocking people's posts and muting people and watching people, you are doing the exact same thing that you are trying to prevent.

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Re: Concerned over the direction the site is taking.
« Reply #188 on: June 10, 2011, 11:34:46 am »
Why is a thread allowed about hangovers at work?  I am the person who reported it.

A mod stated that despite being unprofessional, it does not violate the TOS, and thus will stay.

I thought this was supposed to be a professional website.  There's a lot of talk about cleaning up the site, which I agree with.  How can that be done when we allow these unprofessional threads?

Simply because after work group drinking is a big part of korean culture.  Ask the head of the Eng dept from my last school who insisted I drank with him after work a cpl of times a week and then would clap me on the back in the morning and insist I was 'Strong teacher!'

Please respect korean culture and realise that it does not always fit the mould of the calues you had before you came here.
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Re: Concerned over the direction the site is taking.
« Reply #189 on: June 10, 2011, 11:38:13 am »
I can only assume the initiator of that thread had never experienced a hangover before and, not knowing what to do, and...uh...working at a computer that had no access to search engines, or something, I can see why it was completely appropriate to survey other foreign teachers on the subject. There are surely myriad possible solutions to being dehydrated, and...oh, jeez.

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Re: Unfair post deletions by MODS
« Reply #190 on: June 10, 2011, 11:40:36 am »
It is official! Pandora's box has been opened.
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Re: Unfair post deletions by MODS
« Reply #191 on: June 10, 2011, 11:42:14 am »
You can always go find a new free site that provides the same resources and services -- and good luck.

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Re: Unfair post deletions by MODS
« Reply #192 on: June 10, 2011, 11:44:54 am »
This place get's more like Dave's every day. I give it until September until it's completely toxic.

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Re: Concerned over the direction the site is taking.
« Reply #193 on: June 10, 2011, 11:46:09 am »
I honestly don't understand why there's so much interest in the direction of the site. The lessons are rather neatly organized; I especially like the threads dedicated to lessons that coincide with sections from books. The nonsense is confined to general discussion.

I am a little annoyed with all the moderating that's going on. I understand that there's a TOS, but the mods' main job should be about making sure that the image of the foreign community doesn't take a turn for the worse because of the site. It's the internet. People are rude. If you can't stand the heat, don't post something asinine. Bickering will happen, and I don't see why anyone needs to care about hurt feelings when it's confined to a few people. The mods don't really need to step in there. However, things that are incontrovertibly racist, illegal, or just make foreigners look awful really should be taken down.

I do think this site needs a wiki. Posts generally fall into 5 broad categories: important info about living in Korea that has definite answers, info about Korea that is more opinion oriented, grammar questions, lesson stuff, and nonsense. The things with pretty clear cut answers could easily become a wiki. Things like how to get stuff apostilled by country, how to order a pizza, replacing your ARC, tax stuff, or info about tourist spots in Korea would be much better if placed in a wiki. Who cares if the stuff that isn't lessons or pertinent living information gets cluttered? Acting like threads need to be organized for some of these topics is just ludicrous. Why is mixing discussion about hangover cures and discussion about the professionalism of needing a hangover cure on a work day a problem? Who is seriously going to search for "hangover cure" on this site? Doesn't it make the image of the foreign teacher better if there are people questioning the wisdom of being hungover on a work day?




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Re: Unfair post deletions by MODS
« Reply #194 on: June 10, 2011, 11:48:13 am »
One other comment I'd like to make. I feel like some of the mods are being unfair almost in a bullying manner.

I'd like to be fair right back - one mod expressed to us that they buy and fix old electronics and then sells them.

Why is it that someone gets to use this site as their personal advertising space to sell things? Because he's paid? Because he's a mod? Should these post not belong on Craigslist as well?

Just curious^^

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Re: Unfair post deletions by MODS
« Reply #195 on: June 10, 2011, 11:51:46 am »
Kordadian, this is the second time on this thread I have to correct you.  Once again, you must love conspiracy theories.

How many people here buy/sell?  Check the buy/sell thread.  How many people here advertise their blogs?  Check the blogs thread.  We have a couple that spam their advertisments.  Is it your sole goal to incite an arguement?

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Re: Unfair post deletions by MODS
« Reply #196 on: June 10, 2011, 11:53:52 am »
It is disturbing to see how childish some people are here. This is a website for educational purposes and yes, it does have a general discussion section, but I think in many cases it is being abused.

Let's keep it clean, no bad language please and if you have a problem with a moderator, PM them instead of blowing off steam in public.

If you don't like their opinion or what they do then I am afraid it is time to move on and find a site that you can get along with.

The moderators have a difficult job and yes, they are human and will make mistakes and for sure they will upset some people, but that is too bad.

Let's just keep this website for the original purpose it was intended for by the originator of this site, even if it is out of respect for him.

I love this site and it is invaluable to me for my lesson planning and being an effective teacher and I would hate to see it degenerate into a place I don't want to visit.
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Re: Unfair post deletions by MODS
« Reply #197 on: June 10, 2011, 11:55:25 am »
The mods have got a taste for power and now their thirst cannot be quenched. I am glad their powers are limited to this forum.

It seems nowadays you are not allowed to have an opinion on this site - unless it is a warm, cute and fuzzy one... just Korea!!! :-*

Watch this post get deleted... even though it is just an opinion.

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Re: Concerned over the direction the site is taking.
« Reply #198 on: June 10, 2011, 11:57:28 am »
It's the internet...come on now. It could be a whole lot worse. People are treating this like it's some kind of personal club or meeting or something. It's a place to get information. Get the information you need and ignore the stuff you don't need. That simple.

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Re: Unfair post deletions by MODS
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It is disturbing to see how childish some people are here.

Case in point:

The mods have got a taste for power and now their thirst cannot be quenched. I am glad their powers are limited to this forum.

It seems nowadays you are not allowed to have an opinion on this site - unless it is a warm, cute and fuzzy one... just Korea!!! :-*

Watch this post get deleted... even though it is just an opinion.
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