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British student - Tongue extension surgery to learn Korean.
« on: August 13, 2011, 07:33:05 pm »
What do people make of this? Was reading about it on the bus the other day:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8695371/British-student-has-tongue-lengthened-to-speak-Korean.html

Pretty bizarre.

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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2011, 09:40:49 pm »
I think some people do stupid stuff sometimes. I just hope the Korean papers don't hear about it or she will be a national hero here.

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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2011, 11:26:17 pm »
I bet even with her perfect Korean she still get a bunch of "What? eeuh?  sounds. 
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2011, 12:32:32 am »
Korean is an international language.

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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2011, 09:22:58 am »
Often, just looking foreign makes your Korean completely incomprehensible for native Korean speakers.  I would never go to this extreme to master a language.

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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2011, 09:56:47 am »
I've noticed that Koreaphiles are the new Japanophiles and this girl seems like the embodiment of it.  With Hallyu and all that, Korean culture is starting to take off in the West with some people.  Often people have never been to Korea but think of it as some sort of fantasy land (like this girl), just like the Japanophiles.

Tongue surgery to *supposedly* enhance foreign language ability is nothing new.  It's been going on in Korea for a while for English; often inflicted on children through bad parenting.
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2011, 02:21:28 pm »
This kid just looks naive from the get go. She's never been to Korea and yet she thinks she knows what it is going to be like. I would advise her to move to Korea for a year or two and see how she really like the "culture" here. She might change her mind after awhile. I mean the fact that she'll always be an outsider might open her eyes. She is one of those, like the SE Asians, who gets blinded by the mythical depiction of Korea through movies and songs. Once she gets here, the words rolling off of her tongue might be a little different.

Korean is spoken in 1 country in the world(well, 2, if you count North Korea, but they barely qualify). Other than a few pockets of Koreatowns, nope, it is has little value. If you want to learn an Asian language, Chinese is the way to go. Korea will never be big enough to qualify as relevant. As far as the "culture" catching on in the west, exactly what of the culture will catch on? You mean a few 1980's style pop songs? 99% of K-pop is consumed by Asians because the fantasy appeals to them. Such a thing would not appeal to people back home(with the exception of a few misguided souls like the kid in the article). There are Japanophiles because Japan is a bit quirky and comes up with some decent things. It is appealing. Korea comes across as exclusionary(anyone living here for a significant amount of time will agree) and will never really hold the mass appeal that Japan has. They simply can't compare.

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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2011, 03:34:02 pm »
This kid just looks naive from the get go. She's never been to Korea and yet she thinks she knows what it is going to be like. I would advise her to move to Korea for a year or two and see how she really like the "culture" here. She might change her mind after awhile. I mean the fact that she'll always be an outsider might open her eyes. She is one of those, like the SE Asians, who gets blinded by the mythical depiction of Korea through movies and songs. Once she gets here, the words rolling off of her tongue might be a little different.

Korean is spoken in 1 country in the world(well, 2, if you count North Korea, but they barely qualify). Other than a few pockets of Koreatowns, nope, it is has little value. If you want to learn an Asian language, Chinese is the way to go. Korea will never be big enough to qualify as relevant. As far as the "culture" catching on in the west, exactly what of the culture will catch on? You mean a few 1980's style pop songs? 99% of K-pop is consumed by Asians because the fantasy appeals to them. Such a thing would not appeal to people back home(with the exception of a few misguided souls like the kid in the article). There are Japanophiles because Japan is a bit quirky and comes up with some decent things. It is appealing. Korea comes across as exclusionary(anyone living here for a significant amount of time will agree) and will never really hold the mass appeal that Japan has. They simply can't compare.

I agree with you completely.  China has a population of 1.35 billion plus about 40million+ diaspora chinese around the world and I'm sure it's continuing to grow.  Although China has 2 main languages Cantonese and Mandarin, you're definitely better off learning chinese than hangul as far as economies and jobs are concerned.  China will soon overtake the US as the largest economy in the world and learning chinese would be the equivalent of say learning spanish as far as usefulness.  Even Japanese is better off too although their economy isn't going to be much greater than korea's in the long-run.

It's ridiculous to think that one needs to have tongue surgery in order to learn a language.  It's like saying, all koreans should cut their tongues shorter in order to learn English (please i hope no one ever suggests to this koreans in the mainsteam, because they will surely believe you and do it).  And yet there are 1.1 million koreans living in the US who can speak fluent english as well as any other white person.  I feel sorry for her because someone must've fooled her into believing she needed to have surgery to learn hangul, just like many koreans are fooled into believing they need to have face surgery to look beautiful (when they are already beautiful as they are).
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2011, 03:44:49 pm »
Well, she's obviously into the culture.  I say, like West Coast, let her come and see how it is.  All of us can remember when we were younger and REALLY into that movie, song, band, book, etc.  We're all up in years compared to her...it's easy to say it's a silly idea when you're looking through jaded glasses...thoughts of "These kids nowadays with their Big Bang haircuts and hippitybippity K-pop!" come to mind.

As for the tongue surgery bit, I think that's a bit much.  If she is in fact near fluent in Korean, what's the point of having surgery?  What would probably help her is to spend time in Korealand.
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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2011, 03:59:18 pm »

It's ridiculous to think that one needs to have tongue surgery in order to learn a language.  It's like saying, all koreans should cut their tongues shorter in order to learn English (please i hope no one ever suggests to this koreans in the mainsteam, because they will surely believe you and do it).  And yet there are 1.1 million koreans living in the US who can speak fluent english as well as any other white person.

It is more common than you might think.  There's clinics in Seoul that do this.  I'm having a hard time finding links because now I'm just getting hits for the story posted by the OP. 
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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2011, 03:15:05 pm »
Korean is spoken in 1 country in the world(well, 2, if you count North Korea, but they barely qualify). Other than a few pockets of Koreatowns, nope, it is has little value.

Korean might have a limited number of native speakers but there are still many (good) jobs outside of Korea where being fluent in English and Korean gives you a distinct advantage. Of course, if unification actually happens, these jobs will probably disappear quickly...

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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2011, 06:29:17 pm »
As for the tongue surgery bit, I think that's a bit much.  If she is in fact near fluent in Korean, what's the point of having surgery?  What would probably help her is to spend time in Korealand.

I was thinking the same thing. It'd be better in every way for her to simply move here for some language classes.

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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2011, 02:52:33 pm »
Wow that girl is a complete moron. Obviously she has not heard that news that since she is white she is not smart enough to learn Korean, nor is she of the noble blood line that would allow her to integrate in to the culture.

This is like that south park episode where Kyle gets surgery to be taller so he can play basketball.

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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2011, 10:02:57 pm »
i think the article was skewed a bit to make it seem like she did it for the benefit of learning korean... she had a abnormality on her tongue which probably made pronouncing any language difficult.
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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2011, 09:20:35 am »
I for one agree with her bold decision to become more Korean.  That is why I am going to spray paint my face yellow.  :)
Bwhahaha.  That's so funny on so so many levels.  Seriously, be happy with who you are.  My Korean is just fine without surgery, geesh.  I can't believe the need to whiten skin here as well.  Come on Asian tans are sexy why destroy your own natural beauty?  Really, what is happening to people nowadays?  Everybodys different on the outside, get over it, it's always been that way.  Actually cutting your tongue to speak a language is stupid.  Maybe try learning the language fluently first before surgery, double geesh followed by forehead slap.   I've also noticed how I don't fit in at the gym showers perhaps I should consider reduction surgery, ... not.  :)  Triple geesh, people are getting stupooder by the day.

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« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2011, 01:58:40 pm »
Often, just looking foreign makes your Korean completely incomprehensible for native Korean speakers.  I would never go to this extreme to master a language.

dude...that's hilarious, because it's SO true...i've lived here 6 years...and my korean is pretty good...a lot of koreans comment on how fluent i sound when i speak because i've been able to really pick up on the korean accent...yet, i got into a taxi last week and for the thousandth time told the guy where i live...yet this guy couldn't understand a single thing i said...i restated it...again and again and again...to no avail...

my only conclusion being that i was white so he made ZERO effort to even open his ears to listen to what i was saying...happens more than it should...

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« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2011, 03:54:11 pm »
I bet even with her perfect Korean she still get a bunch of "What? eeuh?  sounds.

This is true.  I know of foreigners who, when they speak on the phone, the Koreans can't tell that they are foreigners.  However, when they meet in person, all of the sudden the Koreans can't understand them.

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« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2011, 02:17:39 pm »
I bet even with her perfect Korean she still get a bunch of "What? eeuh?  sounds.

This is true.  I know of foreigners who, when they speak on the phone, the Koreans can't tell that they are foreigners.  However, when they meet in person, all of the sudden the Koreans can't understand them.

too true... The girl's in for a world of disappointment when she comes here...

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« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2011, 04:46:20 pm »
i think the article was skewed a bit to make it seem like she did it for the benefit of learning korean... she had a abnormality on her tongue which probably made pronouncing any language difficult.

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keep in mind the source:
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they're barely a step above the weekly world news

At the time that this actually broke the only "paper" actually carrying this story at all was them. They're known for creating sensationalized crap stories.

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« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2011, 04:07:05 pm »
LOL Honestly before reading your post I thought you just titled it that way to satire the way Korean children are getting tongue surgery to speak English better! That article was definitely strange alright. hah
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