Traitors to our own Countries?

[kiekie87]

 Words of advice, being the only smelly egg in the coop doesn't mean every one else stinks too. 

Really love the ring to this :)

[#basedcowboyshirt]

Good job OP! Those racist gyopos are talking about you on the Korean Sentury Forum
http://forum.koreansentry.com/viewtopic.php?t=5516

Oh. Wow. This site can't be real. Please, tell me these are some bored foreigners that are typing this. Because it's too funny to be real. Look at their main page. There's no way this can be a real forum. I'm dying.

[justanotherwaygook]

I thought Korean Sentry was old news.

Yes, they're real.  They're a bunch of angry gyopos (in the US, Australia etc.) who probably can't get a date.  They take out their frustrations on non-Koreans.  They bash ESLers, the Chinese, the Japanese, the Taiwanese etc.

The posters are a joke, but it's all real.

[#basedcowboyshirt]

Wow. I've been on the internet for a long time, and that is up there with some of the most potent nerdrage I've ever seen. The vitriol and bile radiation from what looks like the core of five or six posters there is appalling.

Also, I noticed a waygook.org member there with quite a few posts.

[johnthegreek]

Whats your Motivation for teaching english in Korea. I will tell you point blank its 100% money. What I struggle to understand is many peoples view on this forum that their students are what is most important. Why? If you improve a Koreans English you are but a small cog in helping Korea achieve its goal of being a global player and therefore a global economic power. I want someone to help me understand their logic.

I'm not being anti Korean here its just that the reality is we are helping another country that is desperate to compete with our own economically. So why do you care about the students english ability that much? Aren't we just traitors to our own countries?

I'll assume you are an American.  You sound like an American.  Why doesn't the good old US of a produce it's own goods?  Why are most of the products bought in the US not made in the US?  Big industries have been doing this for ages.  Move production facilities to a poor country where labo(u)r costs are low and they can get huge tax breaks by boosting a countries economy. 

Erm, the US is still number 2 in manufacturing.
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/af2219cc-7c86-11df-8b74-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1Zs7BVfUx
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You must know that most of that is companies particularly Asian Car companies who piece together the manufactured parts shipped from outside the US to 1) avoid trade barriers and be close to market. I think America is number one mainly in being consumers. Its like everyone using Apple as a US success story when so much of their products are made in China and Korea. Half the iphone is from Korean companies which makes you wonder how they manage to sue each other so much.

[eggplant_tyrant]

Actually, probably 50% of the posts on this site (or more!) are lesson plan-related, and don't explicitly mention Koreans at all.

Maybe it would be accurate to say that about 50% or more of the non-lesson specific threads contain generalizations about Koreans. I'm of two minds on this one. On one hand, generalizations about a group can be dangerous if held as the absolute truth. On the other, the Korean people I've met seem to self-generalize a lot more than most Canadians I've met, and also seem to hold the generalizations as true more often. That makes the issue of generalization WRT Korean people a bit muddier -- many of the people I know from Canada take pride in deviating from the norm, whereas in Korea is it more often seen as something to hide or change.

That said, the first point is still more important to bear in mind.

[Davox]

Replace (ESL teacher) on that forum and replace with the word (Koreans) and you've pretty much got 50% of the posts here on Waygook. Be aware poeple how you all sound when your generalising about a whole nations and being critical of them collectively. This is why people can't change as people and turn to God because they can't recognise the bad in themselves only others.

Are you...doing ok?  Like, physically, emotionally, and mentally and such?  Because your posts have gotten more and more incoherent over the last little while.  I'm not being glib here and saying that your points or opinions are wrong or anything, I'm saying that it's getting increasingly hard to parse your sentences and figure out what you're trying to say.  Is it stress or something?  Whatever it is, you may want to just relax for a while.  I'm sure I'm not the only one concerned.

[johnthegreek]

Whats your Motivation for teaching english in Korea. I will tell you point blank its 100% money. What I struggle to understand is many peoples view on this forum that their students are what is most important. Why? If you improve a Koreans English you are but a small cog in helping Korea achieve its goal of being a global player and therefore a global economic power. I want someone to help me understand their logic.

I'm not being anti Korean here its just that the reality is we are helping another country that is desperate to compete with our own economically. So why do you care about the students english ability that much? Aren't we just traitors to our own countries?

I'll assume you are an American.  You sound like an American.  Why doesn't the good old US of a produce it's own goods?  Why are most of the products bought in the US not made in the US?  Big industries have been doing this for ages.  Move production facilities to a poor country where labo(u)r costs are low and they can get huge tax breaks by boosting a countries economy. 

Why is the OP sh!tting on us and not on industries?  Ignorance?  Plain stupidity?  A very bad troll attempt?


You want an intelligent argument?  Here's one?  What does Korea have to make it a world power?  Certainly not natural resources.  How about tourism?  Korea Is the Soul of Asia

Here's what they do well.

#1 Ship building.  Korea has owned the market on shipbuilding since before English teachers became the trend here.  They have the production facilites to make them a ship building power.  7 of the top 10 ship manufacturers are Korean.  English has little to do with this.  Teaching all their welders/line assmebly employees or office staff will have little effect on this. 

#2 Electronics, especially monitors/LED technology and semiconductors (memory/microchips if that makes you understand what that is...you won't).  Korea's electronic production facilities are amazing and improving all the time.  (you have no clue cause you're stuck teaching snot nosed kids in a classroom all day).  Soon they could be #1 in the world.  (no I'm not Korea).  So the evil Koreans all learn English and what?  Seriously what happens?  They steal the #1 spot from Japan.  So instead of buying Sony everyone buys Samsung.  It helps Korea, but it's hardly different for the Us.

#3 screw this

I could go on all day.  Of course English will improve Korea and could possibly make them a superpower (), but Koreans couldn't get their education system to work if their lives depended on it.  Loads of Koreans want to leave Korea because of the problems here.  If they can't get their own crap organized how the hell are they going to be a major power?

What do you mean not got its act together? Its got the population of an American state and has the biggest Electronic company in the world. Korean car manufacturers are also growing rapidly in power and taking Japans position. Thousands of Hyundais were bought in the US alone last year.

The reality is Korea is involved in many industries that we don't know about like matierals and chemicals. We just see the major ones and just looking at them I conclude Korea has definetly got its S*&T together. To not agree is a little absurd. Its not called the Miracle on the Han for nothing.

[lotte world]

This is why people can't change as people and turn to God because they can't recognise the bad in themselves only others.

Is this a religious recruitment thread?

[johnthegreek]

Replace (ESL teacher) on that forum and replace with the word (Koreans) and you've pretty much got 50% of the posts here on Waygook. Be aware poeple how you all sound when your generalising about a whole nations and being critical of them collectively. This is why people can't change as people and turn to God because they can't recognise the bad in themselves only others.

Are you...doing ok?  Like, physically, emotionally, and mentally and such?  Because your posts have gotten more and more incoherent over the last little while.  I'm not being glib here and saying that your points or opinions are wrong or anything, I'm saying that it's getting increasingly hard to parse your sentences and figure out what you're trying to say.  Is it stress or something?  Whatever it is, you may want to just relax for a while.  I'm sure I'm not the only one concerned.

I'm in a warm room. Just had lunch. Feeling relaxed. Flicking through facebook chatting to some friends. I left my beautiful loving wife in a warm bed this morning. I'm holding a cup of Joe smiling as I read this post. I don't drink, smoke and I'm a happy Christian with rich fellowship at my local church in Seoul. I also have been checking my investments there not doing great but its ok. I'm interested in economics and am concerned the West is about to economically collapse so yeah I worry a little about that.  I own outright our appartment last valued at 550 million and am building a nest egg to maybe give up work in the next 5 years or so to start a buisness maybe. I'm 34 years old.  Yeah I'm doing good. Hows your life thanks for asking.

*I type fast without checking what I wrote and my work computer keyboard sucks. Don't be a grammar and spelling Nazi its just a forum not your doctorate...And I'm posing questions rather than having a dogmatic stance,that might confuse you maybe.

[johnthegreek]

This is why people can't change as people and turn to God because they can't recognise the bad in themselves only others.

Is this a religious recruitment thread?

Nope just sharing what I think related to my personal faith. You can share about what you think from your atheist viewpoint its ok, I won't think your recruiting .

[jackdaniels]

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