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Offline cowboy7

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Anybody powerlifting or in a body building club?
« on: September 20, 2011, 04:01:06 pm »
I recently was introduced into powerlifting at the beginning of this year and haven't gotten super serious about it yet but I have been progressing. I've been through a few gyms and I have not seen anyone putting up any high squats, deads, or benches.  I have even known and worked out with some of trainers but everyone I have come in contact with is focused more on physique and not strength. 


On another note, a good friend of mine is in a body building club at his university.  The club is cool because they work out together, push each other, share knowledge, and have a pretty good atmosphere going.  If I went to that university or even if I lived closer to it I might continue to drop in from time to time but right now it's too tough.

Anyone else involved with powerlifting or in a legit body building club? 


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Re: Anybody powerlifting or in a body building club?
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2011, 01:52:29 pm »
Body building has become more prominent in Korea over the last few years. There are local city shows everywhere, then there's the various provincial shows. Generally you wouldn't have a club, but each gym would have competitors who compete so thats as close as you would come to a club.

In terms of powerlifting, there are powerlifting teams. Not very common but if you look hard enough you will find them.

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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2011, 03:41:40 pm »
Thanks burks.  I had pretty much given up on this thread and was happy to see a response. 

I will keep an eye out for these shows and hopefully could find a team.  I guess it has been especially hard because I don't have a super grasp on Korean. 

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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2011, 02:29:45 pm »
I haven't really seen anyone power lifting or bod building here. When I was doing high rows and dead lifts the other day ppl were looking at me like I was crazy.  I would say if you can't find a club then at least find a gym with heavy dumb bells so you don't need a spotter. I found a nice gym here in Daegu that has 120 pound db's and a squat rack. That is prob all you will need as you can do most Olympic lifts with the squat bar likes cleans, snatch, dl, etc.

Also, make sure you EAT and SLEEP. If you really want to get bigger/stronger figure out your BMR and up your calories based on that. (sorry if you already know this)

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Re: Anybody powerlifting or in a body building club?
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2011, 10:24:57 pm »
@gtrain83 - yeah I pretty much have most of those things down but thanks for trying to help out.  I've got a pretty decent gym right now.  I was at a better a few months ago and it had 130lb dumbbells  :o  I get the funny looks thing too but at least the trainers in my spot know what's up haha.

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Re: Anybody powerlifting or in a body building club?
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2011, 07:35:43 am »
Lucky. Can't find a gym nearby that has dumbbells that go beyond 25 kg (around 55 lbs).
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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2011, 02:40:41 pm »
Just started powerlifting via the 5x5 method. Now if only I could find an affordable place to buy a gallon of milk so I can start GOMAD. Any one have any experience using GOMAD while teaching? I am terrified I won't be able to do it.

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« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2011, 04:25:40 pm »
@davidcfs - Are you talking about Bill Starr's 5x5 method?  I know there are a bunch of variations, what are the basics of your plan?

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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2011, 07:32:29 pm »
@davidcfs - Are you talking about Bill Starr's 5x5 method?  I know there are a bunch of variations, what are the basics of your plan?

By the gallon of milk comment, I think he's referring to Starting Strength by Rippetoe or Stronglifts.
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Re: Anybody powerlifting or in a body building club?
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2011, 07:36:52 pm »
Just started powerlifting via the 5x5 method. Now if only I could find an affordable place to buy a gallon of milk so I can start GOMAD. Any one have any experience using GOMAD while teaching? I am terrified I won't be able to do it.

You could always consider a weight gainer (iherb.com) which might be more affordable than trying to drink a gallon of milk a day.
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Re: Anybody powerlifting or in a body building club?
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2011, 10:48:15 am »
@davidcfs - Are you talking about Bill Starr's 5x5 method?  I know there are a bunch of variations, what are the basics of your plan?

By the gallon of milk comment, I think he's referring to Starting Strength by Rippetoe or Stronglifts.

Yup, I am doing the stronglifts program.

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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2011, 07:33:30 pm »
Milk is too expensive in Korea. You would be paying like 7,000 KRW a day. It's better to talk some whey protein (20 grams of protien, roughly 1000 KRW a serving), eat an extra chicken breast (20 grams of protein, roughly 2000 KRW or less if you buy at costco or home plus) and then add an egg or two to your breakfast (100 calories, 10 grams of protein - 400 KRW). That's an extra 50 grams of protein for a diet for roughly 4000 KRW. You still need to eat regularly on top of that aiming for 100-150 more grams of protein and 2000+ calories. Also, you can eat a can of tuna a day for roughly 1400 KRW each and get like 30 grams of protein.  On work out days drink a liter of milk. Need more calories? Eat donkassu and sam gyup sal every night for supper. If you work at a public school there is tons of calories in the food, just go nuts on all of the sauces and deep fried crap.

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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2011, 08:00:28 pm »
I'm on 5/3/1 now and moved on from SS.  I use a Spa's gym in Gumi because they have nice equipment and a squat rack.  It's expensive, but the place is nice.  No one else does powerlifting there, but I don't really care.  I do the "big but boring" version of 5/3/1 anyway.  Also, I loveeee 5/3/1 compared to SS, just my opinion

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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2011, 02:05:51 pm »
Just started powerlifting via the 5x5 method. Now if only I could find an affordable place to buy a gallon of milk so I can start GOMAD. Any one have any experience using GOMAD while teaching? I am terrified I won't be able to do it.

I wanted to do GOMAD as well but I am just doing a pint. I mix the milk with 3 protein shakes per day. Not gomad but what I can afford as gomad would cost too much $$$$$$$$$$. If you are in/near Daegu I can tell you how to get to a good supp shop with good protein prices. 166 servings with 28g protein/serving for about 94K.

I am going to look into 5/3/1.

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« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2011, 10:10:25 am »
Just buy your supps from iherb.com, it's pretty cheap. (if someone signs up my code is QOX649   you will get a discount if it's your first time!)

Also, monsterzym.us has decent prices and a really large selection.  Best bet is to look at both of those sites and just find the cheaper price.  I think monsterzym actually ships from NJ, USA but shipping prices are standard Korean prices.  I think the cost is added to the item or something, but the prices are reasonable. Just check it out.  If you don't have a credit card, you will need a Korean friend.

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Re: Anybody powerlifting or in a body building club?
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2011, 03:10:23 pm »
Wow, best information about weight lifting in Korea I've been able to find. I have to give it a bump.  By the way, I just found out bodybuilding.com delivers to korea and although i was hit with a 50 dollar shipping fee, it was still cheaper than the same products on gmarket. I never checked out iherb tho. Also great info on what food to buy here, I was a huge milk drinker back home, but I've come to realize that this that might not be an option on my budget. 

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Re: Anybody powerlifting or in a body building club?
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2011, 08:04:22 pm »
hey, at my gym in ansan they were advertising with big banners on the walls for a recent  body building competition, one of the trainers there is MR ANSAN and i think hes a body building genius he trains a lot of guys that work out there.

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Re: Anybody powerlifting or in a body building club?
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2011, 09:29:20 pm »
Make sure your body is utilising the nutrients from the gomad or you'll get fat, constipated and will build up a lot of nitrates in your organs, especially the liver.

The body can't use more than 30g of protein at a time (I forget how long the period is)

There are 8 pints in a us gallon and 15mg of protein in a pint so that's 120 grammes or protein a day, not to mention aprox 120g of fat per gallon of whole milk.

You'll need to be lifting heavy, often and doing regular cardio also.

Most trainers also reccomend doing 3x10 for at least three months or more to get your joints and tendons used to lifting, I believe.

5x5 is good for strength but 3x10 full body two or three times a week is still better for hypertrophy (mass.)
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Re: Anybody powerlifting or in a body building club?
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2011, 02:53:34 pm »
Well I don't believe gomad is about drinking a gallon at one time, but spacing it throughout the day.  I know I get really gassy/bloated if I drink more than a liter in one sitting.  I've been drinking a liter of milk postworkout, and lifting 3 times a week.  During lifting sessions I drink a workout drink consisting of a scoop of AST VP2 and two scoops of Scivation Xtend mixed with water.

@ OP: By powerlifting, do you mean people who do squats, bench, overhead, deads when they lift, or people who lift extremely heavy?  My stats aren't anything impressive, but doing the 5x5, I rarely see anyone lift as much as me.  I know some of the people at the gym look like they could be lifting as much or a lot more than me, but it seems like they'd rather not.  Don't know if it's because they don't want to look bad if they fail to do a lift, or because they'd rather work on their biceps and abs.

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Re: Anybody powerlifting or in a body building club?
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2011, 07:32:35 pm »


The body can't use more than 30g of protein at a time (I forget how long the period is)

There are 8 pints in a us gallon and 15mg of protein in a pint so that's 120 grammes or protein a day, not to mention aprox 120g of fat per gallon of whole milk.

You'll need to be lifting heavy, often and doing regular cardio also.

Most trainers also reccomend doing 3x10 for at least three months or more to get your joints and tendons used to lifting, I believe.

5x5 is good for strength but 3x10 full body two or three times a week is still better for hypertrophy (mass.)

For muscle synthesis, 20-30 g of protein seems to be the most the body can utilize. However, eating more than 20-30 g per meal isn't necessarily a bad thing:

http://www.precisionnutrition.com/protein-limit



@ OP: By powerlifting, do you mean people who do squats, bench, overhead, deads when they lift, or people who lift extremely heavy?  My stats aren't anything impressive, but doing the 5x5, I rarely see anyone lift as much as me.  I know some of the people at the gym look like they could be lifting as much or a lot more than me, but it seems like they'd rather not.  Don't know if it's because they don't want to look bad if they fail to do a lift, or because they'd rather work on their biceps and abs.

Powerlifting is about  increasing your strength at squatting, benching, and deadlifting. So, yes, you'd be lifting heavy weights at low repetitions.

From what I've seen, Koreans don't lift using weights where they can only do a few reps (i.e., one to five). They typically do AT LEAST 8 reps as they focus on hypertrophy and/or think low reps are outright  dangerous (a somewhat common misconception).

But, not everyone's the same, so some people actually get a bigger hypertrophy response doing lower reps. Also, you really can't go wrong focusing on strength for hypertrophy--you'll see the results eventually. For example, a guy who benches 250 lbs will almost always have a bigger, more muscular chest than a guy who benches 150 lbs. 

Anyway, if hypertrophy is your goal, try 8-12 reps first and see. After 6 six weeks, try switching to low reps. Weight lifting is largely trial and error in my opinion since not everyone responds identically when doing X program/workout.

To me, strength is the main focus and muscle is just a byproduct. I do care about being in shape, of course, so I also watch my diet.


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