Author Topic: ron paul for president (Read 3865 times)

grajoker · « **on:** December 27, 2011, 01:14:33 pm »

if this man is prevented from running fairly then america is lost..no wonder many of its citizens are choosing/forced to work elsewhere..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH1FaLdABFM&feature=related

reversengineer · « **Reply #1 on:** January 02, 2012, 10:10:41 am »

I will be watching the Iowa caucuses closely. I'd like to see this man in office. At the very least he seems to buck the politician stereotype. At best he has a good plan for getting the national economy back on track, shifting the focus to problems back home.

waldron1983 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 02, 2012, 10:13:49 am »

Im Republican, and when I get home this month I will be voting. Howerver Ron Paul, his supporters mostly, are rather shady. The Iran Nuke policy (which is reality now) and his non interventionist policy are very scary. My backing is with Gingrich or Perry...but I would accept Romney

or Huntsman.

gookway · « **Reply #3 on:** January 02, 2012, 10:21:17 am »

Ron Paul looks like Gandalf the Gray (or White) if you give him long white hair.
He's the only one who speaks the truth (whether americans like it or not), whereas
Obama is a great actor.

hilarity ensues · « **Reply #4 on:** January 02, 2012, 10:38:53 am »

I'm not American, and I'm also pretty liberal, but I would totally vote for the guy. The only thing that bugs me is the abortion thing and his plans for the environment-- I don't know what they are.

Davox · « **Reply #5 on:** January 02, 2012, 10:50:13 am »

Why would anyone need to prevent Ron Paul from "running fairly"? As much as you might like to believe otherwise, he's not going to win, even in a fair contest. The majority of both American and Republican voters don't actually support what he stands for. Not when they have to put their money where their mouth is and actually check a name on a ballot (which is the only thing that matters), no matter how many phone surveys anyone conducts. Ron Paul on the right is like Howard Dean was on the left; just never going to happen in a million years. You might wish that people did support Paul's policies, or even argue that the world would be a better place if they did, but the majority simply don't want him as president and never will. And that's that.

Which is not to say that supporting him is futile or anything. Just his being there in the race gives his opinions a much greater voice than they would otherwise have. But actually winning? Not a chance.

unknownx · « **Reply #6 on:** January 02, 2012, 11:34:37 am »

Quote from: Davox on January 02, 2012, 10:50:13 am

Why would anyone need to prevent Ron Paul from "running fairly"? As much as you might like to believe otherwise, he's not going to win, even in a fair contest. The majority of both American and Republican voters don't actually support what he stands for. Not when they have to put their money where their mouth is and actually check a name on a ballot (which is the only thing that matters), no matter how many phone surveys anyone conducts. Ron Paul on the right is like Howard Dean was on the left; just never going to happen in a million years. You might wish that people did support Paul's policies, or even argue that the world would be a better place if they did, but the majority simply don't want him as president and never will. And that's that.

Which is not to say that supporting him is futile or anything. Just his being there in the race gives his opinions a much greater voice than they would otherwise have. But actually winning? Not a chance.

In November 2012, you and all of the anti-paulites apologists for the establishment are going to eat your words. I guarantee it. Keep laughing....

Jrong · « **Reply #7 on:** January 02, 2012, 11:41:00 am »

One of the only things I like about him is the fact that he can't be controlled. That also means he can't be elected within the current plutocratic system.

dbtm · « **Reply #8 on:** January 02, 2012, 12:09:11 pm »

The reason I support Ron Paul is because he will repeal the Civil Rights Act. Much like slavery, civil rights really is just a state's issue!

Jrong · « **Reply #9 on:** January 02, 2012, 12:13:42 pm »

Quote from: dbtm on January 02, 2012, 12:09:11 pm

The reason I support Ron Paul is because he will repeal the Civil Rights Act. Much like slavery, civil rights really is just a state's issue!

w4z · « **Reply #10 on:** January 02, 2012, 12:34:49 pm »

Quote from: dbtm on January 02, 2012, 12:09:11 pm

The reason I support Ron Paul is because he will repeal the Civil Rights Act. Much like slavery, civil rights really is just a state's issue!

Wow...

*edit
This is why I don't side with Ron Paul. I'm not sure if this person is being sarcastic or not. I'm not sure because I've heard RP supporters say pretty much the same sentence before... and they were serious.

unclefrank · « **Reply #11 on:** January 02, 2012, 01:33:23 pm »

I sway to the left and I want this man in the white house. I think that if he won the primary (which in all likely hood he won't) that he could give Obama a run for his money if he campaigned right. Without getting into what his views are, its clearly apparent that he's gotten the attention of many liberals, and I think that a high percentage of 'modernist' (usually left leaning) and liberals would vote for him.

In my opinion, if Romney wins the primary, it's going to be Obama for the next 4 years, no questions asked. The fact that he's a Mormon will (and already is) hurt his campaign in some way or another. It'd be interesting to see how plays out though, when you'd have Obama, who people think is a Muslim, and a Mormon running for president. However, I'd be willing to bet he'd take Utah.

This is all my 2 cents...Gingrich may very well be running for president.

dbtm · « **Reply #12 on:** January 02, 2012, 02:16:40 pm »

Yeah I was joking

Ron Paul is a broken clock. Right twice a day etc.

Hoosier_Jedi · « **Reply #13 on:** January 02, 2012, 02:19:06 pm »

Quote from: unknownx on January 02, 2012, 11:34:37 am

Quote from: Davox on January 02, 2012, 10:50:13 am
Why would anyone need to prevent Ron Paul from "running fairly"? As much as you might like to believe otherwise, he's not going to win, even in a fair contest. The majority of both American and Republican voters don't actually support what he stands for. Not when they have to put their money where their mouth is and actually check a name on a ballot (which is the only thing that matters), no matter how many phone surveys anyone conducts. Ron Paul on the right is like Howard Dean was on the left; just never going to happen in a million years. You might wish that people did support Paul's policies, or even argue that the world would be a better place if they did, but the majority simply don't want him as president and never will. And that's that.

Which is not to say that supporting him is futile or anything. Just his being there in the race gives his opinions a much greater voice than they would otherwise have. But actually winning? Not a chance.

In November 2012, you and all of the anti-paulites apologists for the establishment are going to eat your words. I guarantee it. Keep laughing....

Oh, I promise you I'm laughing. And I'll still be laughing in November.

Frozencat99 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 02, 2012, 02:38:17 pm »

Yeah, I can just see the presidential results coming in now. Something along the lines of this.

hilarity ensues · « **Reply #15 on:** January 02, 2012, 04:52:57 pm »

Quote from: unclefrank on January 02, 2012, 01:33:23 pm

In my opinion, if Romney wins the primary, it's going to be Obama for the next 4 years, no questions asked. The fact that he's a Mormon will (and already is) hurt his campaign in some way or another. It'd be interesting to see how plays out though, when you'd have Obama, who people think is a Muslim, and a Mormon running for president. However, I'd be willing to bet he'd take Utah.

Yeah but Romney will legalize polygamy so maybe people like me can get wives after we find out how to make women like us.

Keuka · « **Reply #16 on:** January 02, 2012, 05:25:24 pm »

I don't think they'll be Korean wives. They'll gang up and dispatch you with a minimum of effort. One Korean wife is enough for me and for most of the other foreigners married to Koreans that I know.

Personally, i don't think that Ron Paul will get elected. Nor would I vote for him, but I like the questions and comments about the sacred political cows qnd the equally sacrilegious political pork of today that he makes at debates. So for even that reason alone, I think it's good that he's running and participating in the debates.

kps1 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 02, 2012, 06:23:30 pm »

He seems to be the only one who isn't a total nut job.

woman-king · « **Reply #18 on:** January 02, 2012, 07:31:04 pm »

Quote from: w4z on January 02, 2012, 12:34:49 pm

Quote from: dbtm on January 02, 2012, 12:09:11 pm
The reason I support Ron Paul is because he will repeal the Civil Rights Act. Much like slavery, civil rights really is just a state's issue!

Wow...

*edit
This is why I don't side with Ron Paul. I'm not sure if this person is being sarcastic or not. I'm not sure because I've heard RP supporters say pretty much the same sentence before... and they were serious.

Indeed they are. America is pretty skeptical of anything too far from the center, hence no truly powerful third parties like Canada's NDP. Ron Paul has some great ideas--I love his emphasis on bringing jobs back to the States--and I am glad he's in the primary debates. But repealing the Civil Rights Act, Ron? Come on. Thing is, many of the people who deeply support him and have for years do so precisely because of things like that.

I will say that he does seem to have garnered a bit of support among the bitter Occupy-types I know whose too-high expectations of Obama have apparently been crushed, though I am pretty sure they haven't done a lot of in-depth research on some of his more extreme positions. Not enough to get him elected though.

Davox · « **Reply #19 on:** January 03, 2012, 07:47:07 am »

Quote from: unknownx on January 02, 2012, 11:34:37 am

Quote from: Davox on January 02, 2012, 10:50:13 am
Why would anyone need to prevent Ron Paul from "running fairly"? As much as you might like to believe otherwise, he's not going to win, even in a fair contest. The majority of both American and Republican voters don't actually support what he stands for. Not when they have to put their money where their mouth is and actually check a name on a ballot (which is the only thing that matters), no matter how many phone surveys anyone conducts. Ron Paul on the right is like Howard Dean was on the left; just never going to happen in a million years. You might wish that people did support Paul's policies, or even argue that the world would be a better place if they did, but the majority simply don't want him as president and never will. And that's that.

Which is not to say that supporting him is futile or anything. Just his being there in the race gives his opinions a much greater voice than they would otherwise have. But actually winning? Not a chance.

In November 2012, you and all of the anti-paulites apologists for the establishment are going to eat your words. I guarantee it. Keep laughing....

I'm not laughing, or supporting 'the establishment' in any way shape or form and I'm not trying to make you personally feel bad or anything. All I'm saying is that there's no way Ron Paul (or anyone like him) will be elected president of the US. At least not anytime in the next decade or two. And certainly not this election cycle. Don't get your hopes up, in other words. Another way of putting it: if you actually believe in everything he stands for and want to see someone of like opinions elected president, you'd better start planning for a long fight, using think tanks, textbook changes, ad campaigns, and many candidates at ALL levels (not just presidential) and all of this happening over a time frame of a decade or two at least. Not just expecting a short victory where everyone just magically changes their opinion because they suddenly for no reason realize you and Ron have been "right all along."

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Author Topic: ron paul for president (Read 3865 times)

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