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Re: Expats, locals gather for anti-prostitution flash mob
« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2012, 07:59:50 am »
universally deemed abuse?  Where? by whom?

Yegob... By everyone who has respect for women, which clearly you don't if you condone the use of women by men for their pleasure. It may be the oldest activity, but that doesn't make it right.

If you want to be an ostrich, go ahead but don't include me and anyone who has a mind to think.
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Re: Expats, locals gather for anti-prostitution flash mob
« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2012, 08:07:23 am »
universally deemed abuse?  Where? by whom?

Yegob... By everyone who has respect for women, which clearly you don't if you condone the use of women by men for their pleasure. It may be the oldest activity, but that doesn't make it right.

If you want to be an ostrich, go ahead but don't include me and anyone who has a mind to think.

what you think is "right" and what you think constitutes "respect" or lack thereof..is purely subjective and would lose in any debate on objective grounds each and every time.

No one is being "used" so long as it's agreed upon by 2 mutually consenting adults.  The problem with prostitution is how some people are abused/coerced, etc but you can't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

The abusers/coercers, pimps, etc I would hunt all those people down and hang them by their scrotal sacks.

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Re: Expats, locals gather for anti-prostitution flash mob
« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2012, 08:25:02 am »
universally deemed abuse?  Where? by whom?

Yegob... By everyone who has respect for women, which clearly you don't if you condone the use of women by men for their pleasure. It may be the oldest activity, but that doesn't make it right.

If your principal is that nobody should use someone else for their pleasure, then that pretty much negates ANY service sector jobs.   Would you be happy getting your computer fixed?   Well then fix it yourself rather than using someone else to fix it for you.  You can't use your arms or hands?   Well too bad because getting someone else to feed you is using them. 

What is the real difference between the following?

1)  I can't use my arms or hands, so I pay someone else to feed me.
2)  I have an idea for a computer program, but don't have the programming skills necessary to create it myself.   So I pay someone else to create it for me.
3)  I am lonely so I pay a woman to provide companionship to me.

By what logic do you say that 3 is using someone whereas 1 and 2 aren't?

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Re: Expats, locals gather for anti-prostitution flash mob
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2012, 10:17:23 am »
This is the most farcically useless thing I've ever heard of foreigners doing in Korea, not to mention that it could be deemed illegal political activity for E-2 visa holders. A campaign against littering would go a lot further towards the group's ends.

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Re: Expats, locals gather for anti-prostitution flash mob
« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2012, 10:28:57 am »
universally deemed abuse?  Where? by whom?

Yegob... By everyone who has respect for women, which clearly you don't if you condone the use of women by men for their pleasure. It may be the oldest activity, but that doesn't make it right.

If you want to be an ostrich, go ahead but don't include me and anyone who has a mind to think.

In New Zealand prostitution is legal.

Also, there are male prostitutes.

If you are against prostitution, then don't use their services.

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Re: Expats, locals gather for anti-prostitution flash mob
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2012, 11:34:51 am »
universally deemed abuse?  Where? by whom?

Yegob... By everyone who has respect for women, which clearly you don't if you condone the use of women by men for their pleasure. It may be the oldest activity, but that doesn't make it right.

If you want to be an ostrich, go ahead but don't include me and anyone who has a mind to think.

It's true that many male and female prostitutes are the victims of abuse. However prostitution and abuse are not the same thing. There are many prostitutes that enjoy their job, that take pride and joy in the fact that they make others happy or feel wanted. In my country there was recently a court case brought by prostitutes to challenge the legitimacy of anti-prostitution laws because they wanted the freedom to work unhindered in their chosen field.

You can't equate abuse and disrespect with prostitution if the prostitute in question enjoys their job.

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Re: Expats, locals gather for anti-prostitution flash mob
« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2012, 11:40:38 am »
I should add that this anti-prostitution flash-mob seems, to me at least, to come very close to political advocacy, something that is illegal for foreigners according to the laws concerning immigration.

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Re: Expats, locals gather for anti-prostitution flash mob
« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2012, 01:22:16 pm »
I should add that this anti-prostitution flash-mob seems, to me at least, to come very close to political advocacy, something that is illegal for foreigners according to the laws concerning immigration.

Yeah: this. Forget Yegob's antagonism for a minute, please. I'd personally recommend anyone on an E2 visa or working in the public school system not to get involved with stuff like this. Encourage your Korean friends, sure, but don't get involved personally. Also bear in mind these political neutrality rules apply to all public school teachers. It is not explicitly in my contract as far as I recall simply because that'd be redundant (as immigration law has it covered), but it is in the Korean ones I believe. As such, in the eyes of the public, you'd essentially be crossing this boundary not once but twice if you're with EPIK.

This specific case is borderline political maybe, but this isn't something you want to risk. Besides, a foreigner protesting a local issue in Korea is, if anything, going to sway public opinion the wrong way no matter what that local issue may be.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2012, 01:29:32 pm by Paul »
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Re: Expats, locals gather for anti-prostitution flash mob
« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2012, 05:01:28 pm »
this is precisely why I hope all these self styled "do gooders"  get rounded up and deported. (political advocacy)

but only after I (and my new Korean buddies) are done chucking the cards at their heads from the car.

btw. I think a man paying a prostitute for her time and companionship is far more honest, and full of far more integrity, than the typical socially acceptable way of a man seeking a way to relieve his biological urges, which is seeking out drunk women, telling them lies, half truths, etc almost anything 'goes' merely to get into her panties. That's perfectly "acceptable" and "normal".  But a straightforward no BS no lie agreement between 2 consenting adults, isn't.

Please.

these people should be deported to Newt Gingrich's proposed lunar colony.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2012, 05:08:49 pm by Yegob »

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Re: Expats, locals gather for anti-prostitution flash mob
« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2012, 05:23:31 pm »
Gee another thread locked.
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