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Author Topic: Is it really that hard to land a good job in Seoul?  (Read 1720 times)

Offline DWAEDGIMORIGUKBAP

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Re: Is it really that hard to land a good job in Seoul?
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2012, 11:31:27 AM »
Harajuku park is still better than any park in Seoul.
If you think you can or can't do a thing - you are probably right.

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Re: Is it really that hard to land a good job in Seoul?
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2012, 12:11:51 PM »

Harajuku park is still better than any park in Seoul.

alrigh..t?

I find no logic, no facts, nothing. Just straight up YOUR subjective point of view, which by the way
is highly doubtful from what I'm seeing on your previous comments.
Nuff said. lol


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Re: Is it really that hard to land a good job in Seoul?
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2012, 12:28:10 PM »

Harajuku park is still better than any park in Seoul.

alrigh..t?

I find no logic, no facts, nothing. Just straight up YOUR subjective point of view, which by the way
is highly doubtful from what I'm seeing on your previous comments.
Nuff said. lol

Ok, since you asked. 

A sunny August day in Harajuku park and I'm enjoying a beer, topless, catching a tan, as are many others Japanese and gaijin, watching a band of rastafarians covered in tattoos playing reggae, cozplay girls, no pointing out of foriegners or sign of dicomfort from any Japanese around...

Ever imagine any park in Seoul hosting such a cool, laid back and liberal day out?

Yeah, I recant, Seoul does have some okay parks, Olympic is a good day out and Boramae park is very aesthetically pleasing.  Just kinda dull though in comparison, would you not say?
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Re: Is it really that hard to land a good job in Seoul?
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2012, 12:48:57 PM »
How has this question about getting a job in Seoul turned into debating who had a more fun day in a park? Here comes Godwin's Law

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Re: Is it really that hard to land a good job in Seoul?
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2012, 01:31:18 PM »
OP,
I'm also from New York City and would second the sentiments in favor of the 'burbs. The transportation system here (in cost and efficiency) makes New York look like a joke, and living just outside the city limits would be like living in one of the outer boroughs. Considering the immediate adjacent cities will open up available positions to you and bump up the quality of your apartment and workplace (provided due research.)

If your dead set on living in Seoul, could it just be for name and the bragging rights? Nothing wrong with that, but IMHO is not worth it.

All the best to you either way.

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Re: Is it really that hard to land a good job in Seoul?
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2012, 02:29:28 PM »

Harajuku park is still better than any park in Seoul.

alrigh..t?

I find no logic, no facts, nothing. Just straight up YOUR subjective point of view, which by the way
is highly doubtful from what I'm seeing on your previous comments.
Nuff said. lol

Ok, since you asked. 

A sunny August day in Harajuku park and I'm enjoying a beer, topless, catching a tan, as are many others Japanese and gaijin, watching a band of rastafarians covered in tattoos playing reggae, cozplay girls, no pointing out of foriegners or sign of dicomfort from any Japanese around...

well if that's your standard of a "best" park, I got nothing to say. But what about the waygooks camping in the sangam worldcup park with tall wheat grass covering the area, small yachts on the waterfront, with kids flying the kite? Sure you can catch a tan, topless or not. You can do whatever you want to.
why overlook these things and just label harajuku park as the "best" eh?
I lived near the Yoyogi park for a few months but moved out because of the teenagers constantly invading our apt area. Not to mention the homeless problems that the park district had. I am guessing you are either ignoring these problems that the parks in tokyo are having, or you are also happy with them as well. Because I don't see any of those here in Seoul.

You are deluding fact from your own opinion.

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Re: Is it really that hard to land a good job in Seoul?
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2012, 02:53:21 PM »
Deluding facts eh!

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But what about the waygooks camping in the sangam worldcup park with tall wheat grass covering the area, small yachts on the waterfront, with kids flying the kite? Sure you can catch a tan, topless or not. You can do whatever you want to.
why overlook these things and just label harajuku park as the "best" eh?


Really, your Enid Blyton details do not really make a place fun do they?

You can't go topless there either, tall wheatgrass, big deal compared to punk and rock bands, yachts - big deal if I'm not on one - and those kids flying their kites pointing and shouing waygookin immida...

Ueno park is also gorgeous, despite the homeless people whom are harmless there and don't beg and blows any park in Korea away in terms of aestheic beauty imo.
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Re: Is it really that hard to land a good job in Seoul?
« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2012, 03:55:05 PM »
you started out saying Tokyo had more parks than Seoul.
I provided the stats saying its not, but you ignore it to move on to say that parks there are more beautiful than here.
I point out that there are problems made by the homeless and the crazy teens invading private space. you ignore it, and suddenly bring up Ueno park all of a sudden.
I'm starting to wonder if you are even capable of handling an argument or to engage in a proper argument progression.
Why don't you bring up antartica next? I'm sure you'll love the topless penguins-or is it naked-and the beautiful scenery there. 


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Re: Is it really that hard to land a good job in Seoul?
« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2012, 03:57:06 PM »
Nah mate you're the one with reading probs, I already recanted on Tokyo having more parks and the park you lived by has nothing to do with anything in my next message.

Still, carry on.
If you think you can or can't do a thing - you are probably right.

Support bacteria - they're the only culture some people have.

Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

“When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.” Mark Twain

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Re: Is it really that hard to land a good job in Seoul?
« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2012, 04:15:44 PM »
Nah mate you're the one with reading probs, I already recanted on Tokyo having more parks and the park you lived by has nothing to do with anything in my next message.

Still, carry on.

..eh what?
again, proper argument progression please.

You know what the popular critic mr. chin said recently?
"Its useless to win over someone who blinds their ears and eyes"

its the first time I can truly feel that to the bottom of my typing fingers.
and I feel no need to progress further. have a good day.

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Re: Is it really that hard to land a good job in Seoul?
« Reply #30 on: January 26, 2012, 04:52:54 PM »
Man are you out of whack today.  Can't seem to even follow the most simple, obvious trains of thought...  bizarre that you're trying to grandstand, when it's all quite clear that I outlined why prks in Japan are more fun to be in than Parks in Seoul...

Anyway, back on topic....

Key things that will help to get  job in Seoul for a newb would be

1.  Young and good looking.

2.  Female.

3.  More qualifications than a BA and cheap tefl cert.

4.  Very good businesslike picture wearing a suit or formal dress, yet very bubbly and smiley.

5.  Emphasise in your personal statement that you think Korean culture looks / seems awesome and you're super enthusiastic about it, you love young kids and are extremely flexible and patient.  Keep your resume to 2 pages.

6.  Be an attractive, young female.
If you think you can or can't do a thing - you are probably right.

Support bacteria - they're the only culture some people have.

Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

“When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.” Mark Twain

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Re: Is it really that hard to land a good job in Seoul?
« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2012, 10:46:10 PM »
To be honest, the best qualifications to have in Korea are

1)  To be young.
2)  To be female.

Your TEFL doesn't mean much, especially if it's an online TEFL (I would even go on to say it's sort of worthless myself unless it actually included a few hours of observed teaching, meaning the tutor observed YOU teaching).

That may be true for hagwons or even public school jobs, but there are many other teaching jobs here.
This may not be applicable to the OP, but it's just a pet peeve for me. So many people on here act like there are just 2 kinds of teaching jobs.
There are other settings for teaching that would be considered "good jobs" including: private elementary, foreign language middle/high schools, international schools and universities.
You need more qualifications and experience for those and being young and/or female isn't a factor.
A first-timer applying from back home will have more difficulty landing them if they don't have a contact/network.
Also, after-school program positions can be pretty sweet with short hours (but little vacation).
Anyway, my point: Stop saying everyone either works at a hagwon or public school. It's just not true and many of the other positions are WAY better.

How can you go about finding international schools? Could you teach math in these schools? Does anyone think that being a Korean-American helps now? I know before that was a bad thing.

 

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