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Offline mingus11

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What took the most "getting used to"
« on: February 01, 2012, 01:01:53 pm »
So I'm about three weeks away from landing in Seoul. I feel like I've prepared myself about as much as I can for the move. However, this will be, for the most part, the first time I've lived for an extended period of time in a different country.

So to those of you that have been in South Korea for a while, what took the most getting used to? How long did it take you to adjust to your new surroundings? How long did it take you to build a social circle and begin to feel comfortable in your new home? Everyone experiences culture shock I assume, but were there things that took longer to get used to than others?

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Re: What took the most "getting used to"
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2012, 01:36:58 pm »
Hi Mingus! Everyone has a different experience here.... Some people grow to love it (like me!) but some people honestly never adjust.
My experience: I moved from a small-ish city in the US to a small city in the southern part of Korea. It was also my first time living for an extended period in a different country: I was excited and anxious about it. To be honest, my first week here, I was pretty miserable, confused, homesick and lonely. I didn't even see another foreigner until my second week here (your experience will be much different than this I imagine, living in Seoul!). I questioned my decision to come to Korea constantly: the culture shock was a lot for me to deal with, completely alone. I told myself to get through the first month without making any real judgements about this place. The food was a big change, not being able to read or understand anything, and people constantly bumping into me was something I had to get used to (and honestly, is something I still sometimes have trouble with!). I thought I had prepared myself for the change, but getting here went way beyond my expectations.
Luckily, after my second frustrating, lonely weekend here, I managed to find an 'in:' one friendly person (whom I incidentally no longer even talk to!) who heard my cries for help and introduced me around to the people I now know and love. All in all, it took about two months for me to begin feeling like this place could really be called home, to feel comfortable and happy here. Now I'm in my sixth month and I can't imagine going back. I've made a life here, I've made amazing, meaningful friendships, and I love my life. I look back at the first two weeks I was here as a necessary adjustment period, no matter how much it sucked at the time.
Anyway, the most important thing here is to keep a positive attitude. If you do that, you will surely do well for yourself here. I wish you the best of luck, welcome, and if you need anything/have any questions, feel free to PM me!

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Re: What took the most "getting used to"
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2012, 02:24:17 pm »
What took the most "getting used to"??

Lies, incompetence and general disrespect from my POE.

Get used to the fact that if one NET in your general sphere of life does something stupid,
it will probably be assumed all NETs are doing it(probably including you).

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Re: What took the most "getting used to"
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2012, 03:57:56 pm »
Even though I'm quite introverted and independent, the hardest part was dealing with loneliness the first couple of weeks. I didn't have any real major culture shock beyond thinking certain things were novel and interesting. Luckily I worked at a hagwon my first year in an area with a lot of other hagwons. It was pretty easy to meet people, but the first couple of weeks were a little daunting.

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Re: What took the most "getting used to"
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2012, 04:02:55 pm »
Something that I have not gotten used to in 3 years (and others I've talk to say similar things) is the pushing, line cutting, not waiting for others to get off elevators before getting on etc. 

I'm not talking about the regular jostling and accidental bumping that people don't pay attention to here (I've grown to ignore it as well; it's nice not having to excuse yourself every 5 seconds on a subway).

I'm talking about blatant disregard for others that could easily be remedied by a bit of consideration.  Now, lots of Koreans, particularly young ones, share the view that pushing, line cutting, poor elevator/subway etiquette needs to be improved.  Nonetheless, it still boggles my mind when these things occur.
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Re: What took the most "getting used to"
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2012, 05:17:23 pm »
the CONSTANT horking and spitting at ear shattering volumes. I'm still not "used" to it.

and yeah, the lack of personal space and people half my size having the temerity to try to barrel into me to get into a train, or a line etc.
I'm so stunned most of the time, I don't know how to react (I only get angry thinking about it later)

been here several years and still not "used" to those things.

the male to male touchiness, in ways which would be massively homoerotic back home took a while to get used to,, but I'm actually kind of used to it now!    :laugh:

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Re: What took the most "getting used to"
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2012, 05:32:46 pm »
I'm not used to the general use of bus tickets and scheduling (my station sells tickets by the day, so if you miss a bus you can catch the next one, but doesn't list departure times on the ticket.

I'm not used to the way students react to me (positively) even though they see me at least 3 times a week.

I'm not used to the lack of public garbage cans.
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Re: What took the most "getting used to"
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2012, 05:56:41 pm »
Motorcycles on the sidewalks, cops standing by doing nothing, being called handsome only thinking it'll score some candy, last minute changes being the norm, general acceptance of bs.

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Re: What took the most "getting used to"
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2012, 06:41:02 pm »
What everyone has mentioned is true, but I don't think those things are immediately evident in the first couple of weeks, or at least not as noticeable.  After you get off the plane and to your apartment I think the hardest thing to get used to is basically finding things you're used to at home.  I know that sounds vague, but what I mean is you know how right now you can run out of soap and just run out and get some in 5 minutes?  Well, maybe you can and maybe you can't here.  What kind of soap is it?  I ended up having a reaction to most soap here but I've finally found a natural one that is great.  Those are little things, but the biggest is food.  In the first few weeks everything will be different and sometimes you will just want a little comfort food, a taste of home.  Well, don't expect to walk into a grocery store and find them.  Maybe you can go to Hongdae or Itaewon on the weekends for something, but that's not really what I mean.  I mean after a crappy day at work simply not finding anything on the store shelves that will solve this mysterious craving.  For example, when I first got here there was no Sprite.  Now, I could have Cider and it's fine, but it's not Sprite.  That's sort of a metaphor for what I'm talking about here.  Things are the same...but different.  Add all of those little things up and it might sometimes make dealing with the bigger things harder.  Now, I got here a while back before cheese, sprite, foreign beer, sour cream, cream cheese, shaving cream, proper razor blades etc., etc. were all available at least in big grocery stores and even Itaewon.  But I'm sure it's still difficult to adjust your life. 

Or another completely different example; you want to see that new movie.  What cinema is it showing at?  What time?  How do you get tickets?  Is it even playing in Korea?  You learn how to do/deal with all these things eventually, but the first couple of months it's an adjustment and while you're already dealing with living so far from home and having a completely new job, it can be the straw that causes the camel to grimace.  Sometimes all you want is a gosh darned glass of refreshing Sprite, is all I'm saying. 

Don't worry, all of this is part of the fun of living over seas.  Good luck. 

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Re: What took the most "getting used to"
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2012, 08:44:16 pm »
Get used to the fact that if one NET in your general sphere of life does something stupid,
it will probably be assumed all NETs are doing it(probably including you).

Yeah...I didn't really notice this - or let it get to me so much - until this winter break when my co-teacher randomly told me, "Oh, another foreign teacher in this city was bothering students through text messaging, and we know you wouldn't do that, but don't talk to students outside of school." I didn't anyway, but I found the implication that I was somehow responsible for some other non-Korean dude's behavior troubling, especially since I didn't even know the guy in question.  ???

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Re: What took the most "getting used to"
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2012, 08:56:26 pm »
Isn't sprite common as? we buy it all the time, I've never had a problem finding anything I crave, the hardest thing for me was to find a good pie, once the craving started I had to wait 2 days and then I demolished 4, I want a BP pie warmer thing so I can have a stack on supply (kiwis/Ozzie's will get it)

Pet peeve, Gum smacking, super especially if its behind me on the bus but now (winter) I just open the window and they quickly disappear. I hate listening to people eat.

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Re: What took the most "getting used to"
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2012, 08:59:45 pm »
Isn't sprite common as? we buy it all the time, I've never had a problem finding anything I crave, the hardest thing for me was to find a good pie, once the craving started I had to wait 2 days and then I demolished 4, I want a BP pie warmer thing so I can have a stack on supply (kiwis/Ozzie's will get it)
I also have no trouble finding Sprite, it's in every FamilyMart and market in my city...

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Re: What took the most "getting used to"
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2012, 09:04:19 pm »
Did you guys miss the part where he said he first got here "a while back"?
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Re: What took the most "getting used to"
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2012, 09:13:25 pm »
The ajummas (worst part of Korea imo), the staring (but I'll let this slide since I've been getting stares for years all over the world since I'm told I have a unique look), people not waiting for others to exit something / shoving others out of the way, the idea that walking down the street means bumping into as many people as possible (no matter what direction / how much open space there is), crummy food, crummy weather, toilet paper in the wastebin, no sanitation standards in bathrooms, Smoke. Everywhere., untrustworthy superiors, Koreans telling me when I can / can't eat / drink something at the table, the ASHC (Ajumma Seat Hoarding Cartel) on public transportation, K-pop, seeing goods marked up 3, 4, 5 times their comparative prices in other countries (ie Starbucks, Levi's, et al.) because Koreans will over pay for ANYTHING.

I'm sure there are more.
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Re: What took the most "getting used to"
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2012, 09:14:03 pm »
The crowds and traffic. They still drive me crazy after a year and a half.

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Re: What took the most "getting used to"
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2012, 09:30:30 pm »
The ajummas (worst part of Korea imo), the staring (but I'll let this slide since I've been getting stares for years all over the world since I'm told I have a unique look), people not waiting for others to exit something / shoving others out of the way, the idea that walking down the street means bumping into as many people as possible (no matter what direction / how much open space there is), crummy food, crummy weather, toilet paper in the wastebin, no sanitation standards in bathrooms, Smoke. Everywhere., untrustworthy superiors, Koreans telling me when I can / can't eat / drink something at the table, the ASHC (Ajumma Seat Hoarding Cartel) on public transportation, K-pop, seeing goods marked up 3, 4, 5 times their comparative prices in other countries (ie Starbucks, Levi's, et al.) because Koreans will over pay for ANYTHING.

I'm sure there are more.

I don't like the stained s**t paper, to me that just seems wrong, The buses don't bother me, If I want a seat and there's one I'll climb over like everyone else, F**k em, I don't get it but everyone seems the same so maybe there's some logic that I'm not privy to.


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Re: What took the most "getting used to"
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2012, 09:41:23 pm »
Isn't sprite common as? we buy it all the time, I've never had a problem finding anything I crave, the hardest thing for me was to find a good pie, once the craving started I had to wait 2 days and then I demolished 4, I want a BP pie warmer thing so I can have a stack on supply (kiwis/Ozzie's will get it)
I also have no trouble finding Sprite, it's in every FamilyMart and market in my city...

Oh children, what a wonderful world you live in filled with Sprite and shaving cream.  I bet you also buy cheese every now and again.  This is the dream me and my generation once had for our children, and here it is in the flesh.  Rejoice, but don't forget your forefathers who blazed the trail you now navigate with English bus stop announcements.  Every time a NSET scoffs at the thought of not being able to watch live sports in Seoul I smile, and an angel gets its wings.

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Re: What took the most "getting used to"
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2012, 09:55:50 pm »
Isn't sprite common as? we buy it all the time, I've never had a problem finding anything I crave, the hardest thing for me was to find a good pie, once the craving started I had to wait 2 days and then I demolished 4, I want a BP pie warmer thing so I can have a stack on supply (kiwis/Ozzie's will get it)
I also have no trouble finding Sprite, it's in every FamilyMart and market in my city...

Oh children, what a wonderful world you live in filled with Sprite and shaving cream.  I bet you also buy cheese every now and again.  This is the dream me and my generation once had for our children, and here it is in the flesh.  Rejoice, but don't forget your forefathers who blazed the trail you now navigate with English bus stop announcements.  Every time a NSET scoffs at the thought of not being able to watch live sports in Seoul I smile, and an angel gets its wings.
...I never said I drink Sprite, but I've noticed it's existence. I prefer Chilsung Cider. Also, not sure where you live, but all of the buses in my area run Korean announcements only, and I don't think they should have to have English counterparts. Not sure how those two things are evenly remotely related, but okay.
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Re: What took the most "getting used to"
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2012, 10:15:57 pm »
Isn't sprite common as? we buy it all the time, I've never had a problem finding anything I crave, the hardest thing for me was to find a good pie, once the craving started I had to wait 2 days and then I demolished 4, I want a BP pie warmer thing so I can have a stack on supply (kiwis/Ozzie's will get it)
I also have no trouble finding Sprite, it's in every FamilyMart and market in my city...

Oh children, what a wonderful world you live in filled with Sprite and shaving cream.  I bet you also buy cheese every now and again.  This is the dream me and my generation once had for our children, and here it is in the flesh.  Rejoice, but don't forget your forefathers who blazed the trail you now navigate with English bus stop announcements.  Every time a NSET scoffs at the thought of not being able to watch live sports in Seoul I smile, and an angel gets its wings.
...I never said I drink Sprite, but I've noticed it's existence. I prefer Chilsung Cider. Also, not sure where you live, but all of the buses in my area run Korean announcements only, and I don't think they should have to have English counterparts. Not sure how those two things are evenly remotely related, but okay.

It's called self-depreciating humour, where I act the elder despite my relatively young age and try to sound like a civil rights leader when in fact we're talking about sprite and shaving cream.  And almost all buses in Seoul have English announcements, at the very least at the subway stops.  Though I could rehash the utter shock and panic I felt the first time I ever heard a giant bus speak to me, or how I offered my portable CD player ("Discman", if you will) to it as a sacrifice. 

OP, if I may add to the list of things you might not be used to, it's the masses of humourless people.  I mean that for Koreans and foreigners alike.  This might sound like a dig to the above poster (and I'll let the coldness of the internet be the excuse for my obviously charming humour not coming through) but it certainly does exist.  People take themselves too seriously here.  "I'm here to write a novel"  Uh-huh.  If I wrote a novel about all the people in Korea who are writing novels, then I'd finally finish that novel that I came to Korea to write. 
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Re: What took the most "getting used to"
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2012, 10:24:43 pm »
The ajummas (worst part of Korea imo), the staring (but I'll let this slide since I've been getting stares for years all over the world since I'm told I have a unique look), people not waiting for others to exit something / shoving others out of the way, the idea that walking down the street means bumping into as many people as possible (no matter what direction / how much open space there is), crummy food, crummy weather, toilet paper in the wastebin, no sanitation standards in bathrooms, Smoke. Everywhere., untrustworthy superiors, Koreans telling me when I can / can't eat / drink something at the table, the ASHC (Ajumma Seat Hoarding Cartel) on public transportation, K-pop, seeing goods marked up 3, 4, 5 times their comparative prices in other countries (ie Starbucks, Levi's, et al.) because Koreans will over pay for ANYTHING.

I'm sure there are more.

why are ajummas the worst part of Korea? I do know some harpy shrews I wouldn't tolerate or put up with for a nanosecond, but I also know some great ones. best part is since you're not a Korean male you really don't have to put up with most ajumma nonsense like almost Korean male does. What amuses me most is the complete shift in the so called "balance of power" in Korean relationships. Just before and after marriage, the Korean female tends to be very subservient to her husband, his parents, etc, then just around the time she hits 40 and beyond, everything completely shifts the other way around (especially if his parents die off) and the Korean husband becomes a complete henpeck.