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Offline Yegob

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Re: Tired of My Life
« Reply #60 on: February 08, 2012, 12:05:24 am »
dudette, you sound like you're a teenage girl who can't get over her first crush.
seriously.

this connection you speak of.. perhaps it really exists/existed but if you guys never even dated, it's hard to project what could/woud've been.

clearly, this wasn't MEANT to be.

find alternative pursuits and things to think about and get on with your life.
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Re: Tired of My Life
« Reply #61 on: February 08, 2012, 03:19:17 am »
I guess I have to stop looking at the school's website so
much too...I saw a pic of his baby he put on there on Friday
for his students to see and they are saying it's cute... Now
I'm even more sad...knowing I'll never be the one
to give him a cute son...I was good enough for stares and flirting
but nothing else...why is my life so miserable...I really wish I could
end my life...I was so sad these past two years
that I isolated myself..I hibernated in my apartment
more than ever in Korea... So I have absolutely
no one, and no real friends in the states either. My parents love
me^^...but I just don't see why even they would
love me either...I've never told them any of this...I just
want to sleep and never wake up...I feel like I can't tell anyone I know this stuff
and I isolate myself when I'm like this...I'm sure my extended
family all think I'm a loser who isn't married and
has to keep staying with parents...and my parents have a
nosey old lady as a neighbor who pesters me to death if I am around...asking why I have no job, etc...



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Re: Tired of My Life
« Reply #62 on: February 08, 2012, 05:59:41 am »
1.  No one on this forum is qualified to help you if you are really depressed/suicidal.  Here are links to lists of psychiatrists/counselors in Seoul.

http://koreabridge.net/discussion/counselors-therapists-psychiatrists-counsellors-seoul-area
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=24229

2.  If this man, your "crush," never admitted to you that he has feelings for you, and got married to another woman, AND had a baby with said woman, perhaps that means he did not want to be with you.  That doesn't make you any less of a valid person/unlovable/etc, it just means that either (a) He just didn't like you, and all the body language you've been describing is because he's nice and embarrassed and awkward and flattered that you like him, and he doesn't know how to respond to it, (b) He liked you a little also, but liked his new wife more, or (c) Perhaps he didn't think you'd want to stay in Korea being a subservient daughter-in-law, or his parents were pressuring him to marry a Korean woman.

Or there could be a million other reasons.  And marriage doesn't always happen because of love, nor does it have to.

As for your co-workers, unless you speak fluent Korean, I'm not sure there's any way you can be 100% that they're making fun of you.  Many of my coworkers laugh "at" me, but what they're actually doing is laughing at themselves and their attempts to talk to me.  Besides my coteachers (who are older males, and as a younger female we don't do much "bonding"), my coworkers don't speak a lot of English, and I don't speak a lot of Korean, so communication requires a bit of finagling at times. 

Also, the whole "OMG, I'm going to die alone!" I suppose is a legitimate concern, but with the miracles of modern technology people are living longer and longer, and waiting longer and longer to get married/have babies.  My fiance will be 40 in May, and he's never been married before.  It just didn't happen for him. 

Also, looking for someone else to make you feel like a complete person is a terrible idea.  You're putting your happiness in the hands of someone else?  We can't control other people.  Don't give them that power. 

Here's my advice:

1.  Talk to a professional.

2.  Quit the school you're currently working at, because unless you get a major attitude adjustment it doesn't seem like you'll enjoy yourself.

3.  If you want to teach ESL, find a better job in Korea (yes, it IS possible), or in Thailand, or Laos, or Vietnam, or China, or one of the other scores of countries available.

4.  If you don't want to teach ESL, go back and hang out at home.  It's awesome that you have parents that would let you chill out while you thought your life over.  Go home and research more life options, and find maybe find something new to try.

5.  Use meetup, facebook, or one of the millions of other internet websites to find friends in Korea.  Where do you live?  I'm sure there's another foreigner within a short bus ride.  They might not be your ideal best friend, but let's face it, options are limited here.  But they might at least be fun to hang out with.  Join a club or class or something.

6.  Stop concentrating on how attractive you are.  Attractive does not equal interesting, funny, etc.  Being attractive does not automatically make life easier, you still have to work at it.  People only want you to *think* attractive = easy so they can make you buy stuff.

7.  Build up your self-esteem, find your own interests, and maybe while doing something you love you'll find someone with similar interests who loves you too.
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Re: Tired of My Life
« Reply #63 on: February 08, 2012, 07:42:47 am »
At the risk of sounding heartless (and probably being lambasted by other posters)...I'm going to call troll.  There are a couple of inconsistencies in your posts.

Firstly, apart from a rather useless "sorry to hear your life is so crap", I can't quite figure out what type of response you are wanting since you just seem to keep posting more and more of the same story. 

Secondly, as someone else said, you sound like a teenage girl and her first crush.  This guy is the only one who can answer your question as to why he chose his wife and not you so maybe you should be asking him.  Either way:  He didn't choose you!  He married someone else and he has a family with her.  It is normal to be attracted to people even when marrying/married to someone else.  Short of being a mistress - which is a role that you will eventually find very unfulfilling - there is nothing that you can do about the situation except to move on. 

Thirdly, for someone in their 30s, you seem to be very naive.  Surely by this stage of your life you have realised that things don't always work out as we'd like them to.  Some people are just not very nice (you don't have to like the people with whom you work but you should be able to be professional while working together).  Women can be mean!  We all know this. 

As for romantic relationships, most female NETs coming here quickly learn that the majority of Korean men, even if they are smitten, cannot or will not marry a foreigner.  It's understandable that you'd be upset at the news of his marriage, maybe even heartbroken - we can't judge that - but at some point, you just have to move on.  You're not the first woman not to get the guy she wanted and, as much as it sucks, it happens.  Have a good cry but then move on.

Fourthly, crying at work a couple of times and moping around because of a guy is pretty emotional and unprofessional.  You're allowing your personal and professional life to cross, which is going to impact on your quality of work whether you are aware of it or not.  Kids are very observant with their teachers and they're going to be quick to tell their parents of the scandals and gossip - or even perceived gossip - that happens at school.  Those "lingering looks" (from either side) were probably noticed by staff and students, which is naturally going to lead to gossip and "hate stares" - you're behaving like a lovesick teenager rather than a mature adult.

As for not being/getting married: That's your business.  It's common for Koreans to question marital status - especially when you are older and female.  The difficulty is when they hit a nerve or insecurity that you yourself have of this topic, which seems to have happened. 

Finally, if this post is real, you are - as you've said a couple of times now - depressed.  No one here is really qualified to help you dea with your depression and you really should seek the help of a professional.  Maybe you just need to talk things through with someone; maybe you need to earn coping mechanisms; maybe you just like attention. 

You've convinced yourself of a couple of things as you've perceived them to have happened at your school and that's going to influence a lot of other behaviour and reactions.  Unless you're fluent in Korean, you have no way of knowing exactly what everyone at school is talking about.  As for your co-workers giggling when they talk to you, it doesn't necessarily mean that they're making fun of you.  However, if you're visibly moping about another co-worker, they may be giggling because you're providing them with entertainment by behaving in such a manner. 

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Re: Tired of My Life
« Reply #64 on: February 08, 2012, 07:55:06 am »
At the risk of sounding heartless (and probably being lambasted by other posters)...I'm going to call troll.  There are a couple of inconsistencies in your posts.

Firstly, apart from a rather useless "sorry to hear your life is so crap", I can't quite figure out what type of response you are wanting since you just seem to keep posting more and more of the same story. 

Secondly, as someone else said, you sound like a teenage girl and her first crush.  This guy is the only one who can answer your question as to why he chose his wife and not you so maybe you should be asking him.  Either way:  He didn't choose you!  He married someone else and he has a family with her.  It is normal to be attracted to people even when marrying/married to someone else.  Short of being a mistress - which is a role that you will eventually find very unfulfilling - there is nothing that you can do about the situation except to move on. 

Thirdly, for someone in their 30s, you seem to be very naive.  Surely by this stage of your life you have realised that things don't always work out as we'd like them to.  Some people are just not very nice (you don't have to like the people with whom you work but you should be able to be professional while working together).  Women can be mean!  We all know this. 

As for romantic relationships, most female NETs coming here quickly learn that the majority of Korean men, even if they are smitten, cannot or will not marry a foreigner.  It's understandable that you'd be upset at the news of his marriage, maybe even heartbroken - we can't judge that - but at some point, you just have to move on.  You're not the first woman not to get the guy she wanted and, as much as it sucks, it happens.  Have a good cry but then move on.

Fourthly, crying at work a couple of times and moping around because of a guy is pretty emotional and unprofessional.  You're allowing your personal and professional life to cross, which is going to impact on your quality of work whether you are aware of it or not.  Kids are very observant with their teachers and they're going to be quick to tell their parents of the scandals and gossip - or even perceived gossip - that happens at school.  Those "lingering looks" (from either side) were probably noticed by staff and students, which is naturally going to lead to gossip and "hate stares" - you're behaving like a lovesick teenager rather than a mature adult.

As for not being/getting married: That's your business.  It's common for Koreans to question marital status - especially when you are older and female.  The difficulty is when they hit a nerve or insecurity that you yourself have of this topic, which seems to have happened. 

Finally, if this post is real, you are - as you've said a couple of times now - depressed.  No one here is really qualified to help you dea with your depression and you really should seek the help of a professional.  Maybe you just need to talk things through with someone; maybe you need to earn coping mechanisms; maybe you just like attention. 

You've convinced yourself of a couple of things as you've perceived them to have happened at your school and that's going to influence a lot of other behaviour and reactions.  Unless you're fluent in Korean, you have no way of knowing exactly what everyone at school is talking about.  As for your co-workers giggling when they talk to you, it doesn't necessarily mean that they're making fun of you.  However, if you're visibly moping about another co-worker, they may be giggling because you're providing them with entertainment by behaving in such a manner.

I'm afraid I have to agree:

- understands Korean
- no Korean friends
- worked here two years
- seems clueless about school system
- works at a hagwon, no elementary school?
- typical Korean obsession about marriage
- typical Korean hesitancy to tell job to F-off
- typical Korean hesitancy to tell country to F-off

Something doesn't make sense.

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Re: Tired of My Life
« Reply #65 on: February 08, 2012, 08:52:53 am »
There was a Korean drama I watched with a character almost like this....She was a gyopo and had poor but survivable Korean skills.

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Re: Tired of My Life
« Reply #66 on: February 08, 2012, 09:13:04 am »
It's hard to know what to believe on a message board, but this person has a long history of posting similar stories on another board. S/he's either a professional troll/astroturfer or a long-timer who's been chasing unavailable Korean men since at least 2003. At least a handful of people know the truth and they're a tight-lipped bunch of [I won't finish my sentence but I think you can all guess].

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Re: Tired of My Life
« Reply #67 on: February 08, 2012, 09:20:47 am »
It's hard to know what to believe on a message board, but this person has a long history of posting similar stories on another board. S/he's either a professional troll/astroturfer or a long-timer who's been chasing unavailable Korean men since at least 2003. At least a handful of people know the truth and they're a tight-lipped bunch of [I won't finish my sentence but I think you can all guess].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Peach

What other board?  I'm curious about how you know this/what posts she's allegedly made.
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Re: Tired of My Life
« Reply #68 on: February 08, 2012, 09:23:07 am »
Yeah, if this post is legit, then I think this person really needs to do some growing up (maybe with some professional help).

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« Reply #69 on: February 08, 2012, 09:26:26 am »
Response to "justanotherwaygook": you can tell from her writing style and from the consistency of her posts here with the posts she made under another nickname at the other board (which I won't name because it doesn't deserve the publicity). Many people accused her of trolling there too, but she's maintained a consistent persona over many years so maybe she really is serious. Either that or she's put an incredible amount of work into a fraud for some unfathomable reason.
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Re: Tired of My Life
« Reply #70 on: February 08, 2012, 09:28:37 am »
One doesn't need to speak any language fluently
to know when someone is talking about them.  Especially
since the guy I like told me I was right and people
had in fact said stuff about me and laughed to him.

I also told him last year that I sensed some people
at work didn't like me, and he offered to talk to
them and change their minds.  I told him he didn't have to
talk to them.

Yes, I'm sure I need counseling... I just can't move
past things quickly...maybe some people can.
It hurts to be in my 30s and I can't get and keep my
life together. Why couldn't I have been like many people
who kept one job, found a wonderful husband, and then
became a housewife/mom.  I never wanted to be a
career woman, being alone and single my whole life. 
But obviously no man ever chooses me.  I have such a terrible time with love and
jobs. 

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Re: Tired of My Life
« Reply #71 on: February 08, 2012, 09:43:18 am »
 :o I am sorry to hear this story. I hope things work out and you find a school that appreciates
your talents and abilities. Sometimes you make mistakes picking schools and thier is no reason to blame yourself.
Good or bad you still had a chance to live someplace new and exciting. If you ever need someone to talk
to email me littlechicken121@hotmail.com   
I made a horrible choice in schools last year but than I got a new school and its a wonderful place that I love.

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Re: Tired of My Life
« Reply #72 on: February 08, 2012, 10:28:09 am »
But obviously no man ever chooses me.  I have such a terrible time with love and
jobs.

I think I see a pattern...

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« Reply #73 on: February 08, 2012, 10:47:53 am »
If this is genuine you need to listen to summerthyme.

I wouldn't say you neccesarilly need to leave Korea as that could be too dramatic and too big of a crash, but  you could do with exploring your issues with guys and learning some new life skills imho.  There are some decent councellors around these days.

Look guys married or not will stare, maybe even flirt without even reaslly realising it or meaning to - heck some women will too - but that doesn't mean it means anything at all.

The romance part imo was at least mostly fantasy on your part.

Talk to someone.  The change in perspective will help you a lot.



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Re: Tired of My Life
« Reply #74 on: February 08, 2012, 12:10:49 pm »
Yes, I'm sure I need counseling... I just can't move
past things quickly...maybe some people can.
It hurts to be in my 30s and I can't get and keep my
life together. Why couldn't I have been like many people
who kept one job, found a wonderful husband, and then
became a housewife/mom.  I never wanted to be a
career woman, being alone and single my whole life. 
But obviously no man ever chooses me.  I have such a terrible time with love and
jobs.

Hey pretty lady how you doing?  8)

(Spongeblob struts up with his well oiled chest hairs poking profanely from his stained white t-shirt.  Beads of sweat roll down his ample chins nestling somewhere in the bosoms of his prolific belly folds.  A slight jiggle from the reverse hammock area of his buttock glutoneus signal he is ready and willing for love.)

In short.  Life could be worse.  Check in to a counsellor don't let Spongeblob be your ultimate man of destiny.   You have a choice.  Live dagnabbit ..... live!  Or complain and do nuthin.  I'll be waiting.  :-* 

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« Reply #75 on: February 08, 2012, 02:58:19 pm »
I agree with a lot of posters who have replied to this thread...Girlfriend, you are clearly depressed and you need to talk to a professional. By posting how you are tired of your life, just goes to show that you are looking for attention and validation from the waygook community. For a grown woman, you are making yourself sound like an obsessed HS teenager by being sad that your "crush" didn't choose you. Get over it. Yes, that sounds harsh but that's the honest truth. I, myself, am a single woman in my 30's as well and I don't take my single-hood for granted. Heck, I know a lot of women who are single and in their 30's and they don't act like it's the end of the world. Thinking about suicide is not the way to deal with your problems. Just think about how your parents and your friends will feel if you took your own life. In my opinion, I think you're being selfish because you are leaving more problems for your parents to deal with...

You say you are an attractive woman and if you are patient enough, the right man will come along. Just work on yourself and focus on getting your mind, body & spirit in a good place. Be happy! There's so much to live for! Believe me, nothing is more attractive than a woman who is happy in her own skin and has a positive attitude about everything.

Btw, did you two ever date? Did he tell you that he liked you? If he didn't, then how do you know that he likes you by the looks he gives you or from the way he touches you?  And if you're desparate for a job....why not consider the rural job your recruiter is offering? A job is a job and beggars can't be choosers...

Good luck to you.

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« Reply #76 on: February 09, 2012, 11:41:45 am »
Thanks to the last few posters for the advice.
I'm waiting to hear back from a counselor...I know
I need to learn better coping and life skills. I have
a pattern of crying at work. 

On the job hunting front, why are some places so
picky? I don't have a scanner to scan my arc and
passport...I could take a photo with my phone, I guess.
But, I kind of don't trust giving this info before
even being hired.  No one has a right to have my
personal info like that...and asking for references...I'm worried my school
will badmouth me and only focus on my emotions
and not my teaching skills...I think maybe they've
instructed teachers I've worked closely with to badmouth me.

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« Reply #77 on: February 09, 2012, 05:03:39 pm »
I was going to say ur fired cuz you are maybe a chubby shorte. but I guess ur good lookin. i think ur right u got no more year ups because they are mean. they figure they do not want to be ur friend. they rather have a handsome guy. but you need to look at the bright side. if you can not get a job here you can go to thailand or china or taiwan. then u can get some space between the haters. also i got to say it sounds like you have no friends. i mean why are you not with ur friends. you should talk to them. maybe they can help find you a job. sorry to sound mean. but i notice a lot of teachers do not have friends. i make friends at bars when i go. but those friends i do not see again. but i do not have any hawt girlz callin me. i am kind of lame 2. i would be real surprized if i get a renew contract. but i saved a phat load of the dolla.
but do not kill yourself. if you need someone to talk 2 you can pm me. i will give u my cell. u can call me if you feel really sad and like hurting urself. i helped some sad kidz b4. if you feel real sad just do the frog dance. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=chG5TX2AS8A

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« Reply #78 on: February 09, 2012, 06:42:58 pm »
I am so tired of my pathetic, loser life.  I am a good teacher, and I have the evaluations to prove it, and yet my school won't resign me for a third year.  I am having a hard time finding a new job, and just got a rejection email today, saying that many qualified people applied, and unfortunately, I was not one of those.  But, they want to keep my stuff on file for the future....yeah, right...that means forget it and that I suck.  My current school is keeping male teachers who are not as good as I am.  Their open classes were not as good as mine. I never missed a full day in two years, I taught as well as I could, and I always did paperwork, like report cards on time, etc. I was told I am too emotional, and that I yelled at kids, which is a big LIE, and that parents complained about my sadness.  I highly doubt that at all.

There are a handful of women who just plain don't like me at this school.  For two years, I have gotten dirty looks from them, coldness, and they look me up and down the way a man would.  They are just jealous of me, and two of them backstabbed me and gossipped about me, pretending to be my friend.  One of them took me to lunch last week, and I could see the guilt on her face.  She helped get me booted, and thinks lunch will appease her guilty conscience?  Whatever.

Yes, I did cry at work a few times in two years...but nothing major.  It's kind of hard not to be sad when you can just feel the hate oozing off of these women, who range in age from late 20s to late 40s.....they are all married, and they took great joy in the fact that I am single and in my 30s.  I have long, thick, classic length hair, and a thin petite body, and I dress fashionable.  They all dress like old ladies and wear big, baggy shirts big enough for 5 people, and of course, typical old lady hairstyles.

I fell for one of the teachers there, and we had a lot of chemistry between us and he was so great, nice, and helpful to me...but when he married the girl he'd known for 2-3 years before meeting me, they all took great pleasure in my sadness when I cried and couldn't teach 3 classes my first year.  The gossip mill started turning and they never let me forget my mistakes.  Someone even asked someone else if we liked each other, and he still married someone else.  I was one big joke to them.  People went to him and teased him about me...he even told me so. He was the only real friend I had in this school.  He had a baby last year, and everyone knew but me.  A few days before his baby was born, the director walked up to him at lunch, said my name and laughed, and I was sitting right there eating at a nearby table.  So mean and evil.  She never liked me.  Two years ago, she always gave me dirty looks, and was never friendly to me.  Another teacher sat at lunch everyday my first year and just stared at me, giving me dirty I hate you looks...it made my lunch time VERY uncomfortable.  She would say hello to guys, but never to me.  Of course, the guys at work were all pretty friendly to me.  Women can be so evil and cruel.  I've had trouble on almost every job with women, but this has been the worst.  My first year, one of the late 40s ladies told me my hair was beautiful, and in the same sentence turned around and asked me why don't I get married???

Two women told me I should have confessed my feelings to the guy I adore, but I didn't even know he was engaged.  The first time I taught his class, I looked at him and it was like WOW...instant connection. I even had a feeling about him before we even met.  It isn't our fault we became attracted to each other and he was already engaged.  Two days before he got married, he gazd at me down the hall until he got out of sight, and something told me to go talk to him, but I didn't follow my intuition.  People have really used me as their laughing medicine for two years.  It isn't fair that people treated me this way.  I also didn't know about the baby..and the day he missed work, a student told me why he wasn't there, and so many teachers gave me funny looks all day, like they were waiting and hoping for me to break down and cry because he had a baby that day.  The director came up to me and asked me in a very condescending, mean voice, "How are you today"? like she was expecting me to cry and have a nervous breakdown.  I lied and said I was OK.  At lunch, I left the building to get some air, went into a nearby church and cried my eyes out with a lady who works in the church.  This man will always have a very special place in my heart...I've never met anyone like him...but I don't think I deserved that kind of torture...it got worse in my second year.

I got renewed for a second year, so I know I don't totally suck as a teacher. Guess they got done using me as their joke, so they said no to a third year, and I was accused of stuff I didn't do.  I had to work closely this year with two of the mean women...one was the one who remarked about my hair and mariage in my first year...she always said hello to me this year in a mocking way, and when they man I adore had his baby, she put "very good" in Konglish on the school's webpage..probably to taunt me about it.   I got sick in his classroom one day, and I was accused of crying...I got sick...I didn't cry.

One day, I was giggling because some middle school girls next door said I was beautiful.  She wondered why I was laughing, and when I told her I just got called beautiful, she looked me up and down, and dissed my outfit in front of 3 other teachers, saying she wants to se me wear longer skirts...although, the skirt I wore had leggings under it, and I wore it at another school, and nothing was said. I told her this, and she proceeded to mention what I had worn the day before, and dissed that outfit, saying it had been a low cut dress.  I told her I had a sweater over it...she finally left me alone.  I was so embarrased in front of other teachers.  This is harassment, and I guess as a foreigner I have no recourse.  Two years of dirty looks, laughs, etc.  I guess they all took great pleasure in knowing that an attractive girl like me couldn't get a Korean guy (one of their guys) to be with me.  Since they hate me, it made their day to see the pretty foreign girl not get the Korean guy.  I didn't deserve their treatment.  They made me feel like garbage for being single, and only married and pregnant teachers were treated with kindness...like I am less of a woman for being 30 something and single and childless.  I thought of suicide so many times...and these are Christian people, too. One of them sat at her desk and read her bible while I taught her class, knowing she backstabbed me and helped get me booted, along with those other women.

Now, I am still looking for a new school for March, and if I don't find one, I will have to move into a motel to look for one until my ARC expires at th end of March, or continue into April with a D-10 visa, using my savings I worked so hard to earn and save....OR back to Mom and Dad's house I will go, unemployed, single and sad. Sometimes, I wish I could just end my life...if suicide would work and I'd go to heaven, I'd do it.  I'm so tired of feeling this way.

I've been there so many times. When you're in that kind of rut, everything- and I do mean everything-that used to have, shall we say, "color" (that is, something you used to look forward to, be interested in, enjoy) now has a battleship grey tinge to it. It's difficult to even get out of bed (because you're convinced nothing positive could come of it), go out in public (for the same reason) and so on.

My advice to you would be to go home. Even for a short time, for the love of all that's good in this world, go home. Be with your family and friends. Vent. Cry on your best friend's shoulder. Even though it's easier said than done, try as best you can to forget the BS you've just been through.

That's the best advice I can give you is to leave and come back at a later time. If you stay here indefinitely, given the negative experience you've just had, it won't get any better- all you'll have is a sort of "oh lord, here we go, the same BS that happened before is happening again."

I respectfully disagree with the spirit of what some have posted on here, specifically the"we all have to go through with it, so suck it up and deal with it" concept. We're not marines, this isn't basic training or combat. Sucking it up, toughing it out doesn't always work here.

 You're a human being with normal emotions who feels as if she's been beaten up for the sake of other people's enjoyment, and you're tired of it.
Go home. Heal. Be in the company of friends. If you feel up to it later, come back. 

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Re: Tired of My Life
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Here is a list for the OP:

http://harpo.ca/counsel.html

Counselors, Counsellors, Psychotherapists, Psychiatrists, in the Seoul Area


Yvon Malenfant, M.Div. (Canadian)

Inter-faith pastoral counselor
Individual and Korean-Western (Intercultural) Couples Counseling
Close to Grand Hyatt Hotel Itaewon & Noksapyeong Stations Line #6
Email: harpoinseoul@yahoo.ca
Phone: 02-335-3633 / 010-6268-1063
www.harpo.ca


Noreen Jaden, M.SC. (Canadian)

Registered Psychologist (AB, Canada) CEO of Adaptable Human Solutions
English- and Korean-speaking therapists available for children and adults
Worldmark Tower at Samgakji Station (exit 10) Yongsan-Gu, Seoul
Email: info@ahskorea.com
Phone: 02-749-7915
www.ahskorea.com


Eunice (Eun Young) Ra, L.C.S.W.

Bilingual psychotherapist (English and Korean)
Associate therapist & Multi-culture consultant
Certified sandplay practitioner and a member of Sandplay therapists of America.
Adaptable Human Solutions, Samgakji Station (exit 10)
102-1404 World Mark Tower, 64 Hangang-Ro 1Ga, Yong San -Gu, Seoul 140-100
Email: eunicera@ahskorea.com
Phone: 02-749-7915 / 010-3878-7683


Young Pak, M.MFT., LMFT (Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, AR, USA)

Systems Therapist / Cross-cultural Trainer
"Enriching Life | Advancing Business"
Adaptable Human Solutions, Samgakji Station (exit 10)
Email: ypak@ahskorea.com
Phone: 02-749-7915 / 010-8849-9467 www.AHSKorea.com


Steve Sangkwon Shim, Ph.D. A.P.C. Diplomate

Seollung Station Line # 2 (Gangnam area)
Diplomate Bilingual English / Korean psychotherapy.
Line # 2 Sollung Station
Email: KICCP@unitel.co.kr
Phone: 02-549-5909 / 011-9771-5909
http://www.koreatherapy21.co.kr


Morrison Lee, (Australian)

Personal counsellor
Itaewon Station Up Kyungleedan near to the Hyatt Hotel
Email: morry_lee@yahoo.com.au
Phone: 010-6376-3965.


Erica Kim, M.A.

Director of English Counseling Services
Family Counseling Center (FCC), Korea
Rm 1003, Bdg 103, Yongsan Park Tower
24, Yongsan 5 Ga, Yongsan Gu,
Seoul, SOUTH KOREA (140-030)
Line #4, Icheon Station Exit # 3-1. Walk 80 meters.
(서울시 용산구 용산 5가 24번지 용산파크타워 103동 1003호)
Email: engcounsel@naver.com Phone: 02-2-790-5910 (English) / 02-2285-5915 (Korean)
Fax: 02-525-0618
www.familykorea.org


Holly Hay, MA in Counseling (American)

Daejeon City,
Meditation Addictions Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder Eating Disorders Couples counseling.
Anger management Depression Intercultural counseling.
Email: TriangleWellness@gmail.com
Phone: 010-5808-0306


Rev. Prince Charles Oteng-Boateng, (M.Div., Th.M., LPC)

A Christian counselor in Seoul.
Hapcheong-Station. Line #2 & #6. Hapcheong
Phone02-333-7393




Coaching


Carlos Pavao

(ABNLP and ABH Certified)
CYRNcoaching and consulting
Offering Personal, Group, and Corporate Coaching/Consulting
The first 30 mins are free for PersonalCoaching/Consulting
I am also on facebook under CYRNcoaching.
Email: cyrncoaching@gmail.com
Phone: 010-5036-4421


Bob Taylor

LifeSuccess Consultant certified through Bob Proctor
Founder of One Amazing Life
Specializes in Personal and Corporate Coaching, Seminars, and Workshops.
Email: bob@oneamazinglife.com
Phone: 010-8968-6293
www.oneamazinglife.com



Psychiatrists in the Seoul Area


Dr. Kim, Soo-young, (aka. Mike) M.D.

Itaewon Station Line #6. (02)790-0857. International Clinic
501 Hannam building, 737-37 Hannam-dong, Yongsan-gu Seoul, Korea 140-212
E-mail: sky114@unitel.co.kr
Phone: 82-2-790-0857
Fax: 82-2-798-7480
http://www.internationalclinic.co.kr/


Dr. Loo, M.D.

Hyehwa Station, Line # 4 Seoul National (University) Hospital International Clinic.
Phone: 02-2072-2890
http://www.snuh.org/eng/eihs/sub01/


Dr. Jinseng Park, M.D., PhD.

Psychiatry, Psychotherapy
Seollung Station Line # 2 (5 min.)
Phone: 02-563-0609
Email:mdoctor@korea.com


Dr. David Hong, M.D.

Samsung Station Line # 2
Email: ihs@smc.samsung.co.kr
Phone: 02-3410-3585
http://www.smc.samsung.co.kr



Web-cam Counselors


Lisa Laba-Sarkis B.SocSc B.SW MAASW

Power of Mind - Private Online Counselling
Power of Mind offers a private, secure and confidential counselling through the use of an instant messenger program, that can be accessed online at home, in the workplace or anywhere in particular the client would like to access the internet.
ABN: 45 122 544 090
www.powerofmind.com.au



If any of you are aware of counselors (Korean or English speaking) that you would like to recommend who are residing in Korea. Please contact Yvon at harpoinseoul(at)yahoo(dot)ca thank you.