May 19, 2013, 07:43:05 PM

News

Welcome to the Waygook community forums.  Feel free to browse the site, and sign up for a free account to have access to lesson plans.  Waygook is geared towards EFL/ESL teachers in South Korea, however we do like to cater and help out fellow waygookins all over.  We are also on facebook for convenience.

Author Topic: Afghanistan Shooting & Mefloquine as Possible Cause  (Read 287 times)

Offline Jrong

  • The Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 2394
  • Gender: Male
  • i love food
Afghanistan Shooting & Mefloquine as Possible Cause
« on: March 26, 2012, 05:00:25 PM »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/25/robert-bales-malaria-drug_n_1378671.html was interesting. I remember some poster on here once recommended Larium (Mefloquine) to someone traveling to India. I told that person they were wrong to do so. I had to take Larium short-term once to address recovery of a specific type of malaria and I too had semi-psychotic angry episodes and some super strange dreams.

So, if it turns out that Larium is the cause of this soldier going crazy, is it still OK to send this guy to jail for life because some idiot army commander ignored the last 30 years of scientific research and still allowed people to take Larium? I mean, I know that the military is very disconnected from science in many ways (as seen by another recent issue with "addressing atheism as a character problem" in the armed forces) but even my missionary friends know enough to stay away from Larium and have known for many years...

"When in doubt...ask Troglodyte" ~0mnslnd

Offline Cereal

  • Hero of Waygookistan
  • *****
  • Posts: 1222
  • Gender: Male
  • Awwww man!
Re: Afghanistan Shooting & Mefloquine as Possible Cause
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2012, 11:22:47 AM »
I know people who have taken that drug when traveling through SE Asia and some experienced terrifying psychotic hallucinations. I was warned off of it and advised, if I wanted, to take a different anti-malaria drug. The other advice I got was to liberally use OFF! with DEET.

I've never had malaria, but I have had dengue fever twice and had some seriously bizarre hallucinations.

If that soldier was on Larium and it was prescribed or given to him by superiors, it is my opinion that he should not be charged with the killings. In all likelihood he was psychotic at the time and thus incapable of reason.

A tragedy to be sure, but if Larium was involved the soldier should not be held responsible. Who knows what his brain was doing at the time?
"The urge to destroy is also a creative urge."
Bakunin

Offline woman-king

  • Hero of Waygookistan
  • *****
  • Posts: 1168
  • Gender: Female
Re: Afghanistan Shooting & Mefloquine as Possible Cause
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2012, 05:19:28 PM »
This might be an overly politicized way of looking at this case, but I feel like the media is trying really hard to come up with all sorts of excuses for this dude, for lack of a better word.  Yes, of course his health should be thoroughly investigated and taken into account, and if the army is still giving people malaria drugs known to cause mental instability, while in a warzone as traumatizing as Afghanistan, that in and of itself should be a major scandal.  But I think to not charge him at all because he was given some bad drugs/had PTSD, is going to look really bad for the U.S. as far as our reputation in Afghanistan and the middle east goes.  It's important to make it clear that we take our own ideals about justice and the rule of law seriously, when we're in another country trying to get rid of a regime we've declared immoral and dangerous and unlawful.

On an individual level, of course, this guy is just one person and it's unfortunate that his actions carry so much international and political consequence, but I don't think that aspect of it can be ignored. 

 

Employment

Recently updated lesson plans

Memes by mrjinglescf
[Today at 07:41:27 PM]


Make it count. by Natalie1983
[Today at 11:24:37 AM]


Disciplinarians! Your most effective punishments? by Summer
[Yesterday at 05:18:31 PM]


Post Mid-term K-pop Slam (2013) by septeacher
[Yesterday at 04:45:12 PM]


Difference between difficulty of English taught in... by money55
[Yesterday at 01:42:34 AM]