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Author Topic: Any other guys find Korean nightlife and women a bit frustrating?  (Read 6885 times)

Offline BachataHeights

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Re: Any other guys find Korean nightlife and women a bit frustrating?
« Reply #80 on: April 20, 2012, 03:42:47 PM »
Do all "normal" straight males complain about having to spend money on a woman they're trying to sleep with? Because BH has done that several times, both when talking about booking clubs and then in his charming reply to myself and faery_lights. Do they talk about how it takes "work"? Or about how awful it is that you've got to go out with a girl one or two times before she sleeps with you? Or how they don't care about a woman's attitude because w/e, she's just a walking vagina?

Unfortunately, it might be "normal," but that doesn't mean that it's okay to think that way or say those things in a public forum.

For a guy not looking for a girlfriend and simply looking to hookup, having to spend money to obtain that when they are not accustom to doing so is a pain. Nothing wrong with mentality just as there is nothing wrong with a guy wanting to spend money on a girl and invest a lot of time. Different strokes for different folks.


I also respect people for being honest, but I don't necessarily like people who share honest opinions in inappropriate situations. It's rude to walk up to strangers and profess you desire to sleep with them, but I suppose it's honest. It's also honest to state that you have shallow narrow-minded opinions about sexuality and you want them to be as easy and open as possible....but it's hardly going to earn you respect from everyone.
Yes we don't know this guy.....but he isn't off to a great start. Respect should be earned, but if you are a brand new member of a community and your first few threads involve attacking people with varying opinions, you risk annoying people. Also when more experienced members start mentions that such discussions may be inappropriate for the forum, you shouldn't attack their advice as a new member, specially when the majority of people commenting on your thread are unsettled by your comments.
I don't think anyone is normal, but I don't think it is abnormal to want to keep an efl teaching forum somewhat professional. Most of us don't want to revisit the days of English Spectrum and all the crap that community started by hosting western style parties and such.

...what's wrong with having a culture that is different? I don't find this frustrating, but I've learned how it's done here.

Are we not all adults here? Inappropriate situations? Lmao.

You are correct in that it is rude to walk up to a female an express a desire to sleep with them. Id advise all guys to treat ladies with respect, be friendly, fun, easy going, and simply go with the flow. If you kick it off and one thing leads to another great, if not, so be it.

Its not rude how ever to discuss cultural differences in the Life in Korea section. We are all adults here. Hooking up, dating, clubbing, ect is all apart of life. Yes this thread would be inappropriate in the Jobs and Contracts section.


Within that context, why exactly do you say that Korean women are less sexually liberated or open? And please tell me what the opposite of sexually liberated or open is, if not prudish?

Did we not just discuss in which parameter I was using? Remember me saying that there is many parameters and ways one can use when discussing the terms sexually liberated / openness....

The term id use as the opposite is conservative, not prudish. But way to spin something in a negative light.



Offline Frozencat99

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Re: Any other guys find Korean nightlife and women a bit frustrating?
« Reply #81 on: April 20, 2012, 03:48:16 PM »
I applaud BH for being honest. He is a normal, straight male. Nothing wrong with one-night stands, they're pretty normal. Most single testosterone-filled men who can, will. You may think he's misogynistic but we don't know him well enough to make that judgement. Words need to be interpreted within the context of culture AND his own personality as he may use words differently than you.

When I read posts like these, I remember how "non-normal" most posters on this forum must be.

Is this a joke? You honestly don't think we can glean that a person is misogynistic from their posting?

If "normal" is equated with 'having to get my rocks off with one-night stands like any other single, testosterone-filled man' then I'm proud to be abnormal. Apparently chauvinism and sexual degradation are a part of "normal" male life.

And these are the same people that deny that everyday male culture contributes to rape culture. #smh. I should have been born a woman, this is disgraceful.
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Offline Jeff619

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Re: Any other guys find Korean nightlife and women a bit frustrating?
« Reply #82 on: April 20, 2012, 03:59:51 PM »
If you genuinely believe that Korea lacks a "one night stand culture", then you either haven't been here very long, or you're doing it wrong.

Sorry you're having bad luck (as others have said, you may want to consider that it might have something to do with your attitude), but I don't think the right solution is to assume it's an entire country. Maybe try a new haircut, do a little shopping or brush up on your conversational skills.

Or you could stop being a condescending fill-in-the-blank that women, Korean or otherwise, can probably smell coming from a mile away.
This is my feeling exactly.  I've really never known any guy to have problems picking up women here.  One night stands don't exist in Korea?  Yeah, all of those love motels surrounding the clubs are there because people are so tired from dancing all night!

I don't know the OP, but in this thread he's coming across as the kind of guy that my female Korean friends dread about meeting in the clubs.  Maybe stop with the grinding and 'hollaring' and maybe you'll have some luck.


 

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