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bullied middle schooler kills himself
wrinklebump:
--- Quote from: Rusty Shackleford on April 23, 2012, 07:44:21 AM ---Every time this topic comes up I say the same thing and get shouted down. Stop forcing people to do stuff they don't want to do. Part of the problem is that the bullies don't want to be at school. Same with the bullied. If you gave these people the option to do as they please, much of the problem would dissipate, instead of forcing people into these toxic situations.
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just from a public safety perspective, taking troubled youths out of the schools and tossing them onto the streets, where their already dim prospects officially disappear, doesnt sound like the sanest of ideas. at best its merely a cosmetic solution to school violence; at worst it just moves that violence into neighborhoods and public spaces that are notably less-policed than the schools themselves.
edit: the korea times weighed in yesterday. http://koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2012/04/202_109459.html
the sum of the editors' opinions: These teenagers are friends and enemies to one another at the same time, like gladiators in ancient Roman arenas. Those who cannot keep up with this rat race often try to reaffirm their existence by bullying and harassing weaker colleagues.
Frozencat99:
I wonder what the suicide rate would be for high school dropouts (its illegal to drop out before middle school, based on what people have told me?) in this country. No university, no job, no upward mobility...
I agree with Cereal, though I'd lean toward a three-strikes type of deal rather than zero tolerance. Zero tolerance policies, at least those studied so far by the American schools of criminology, haven't shown any signs of doing what they're supposed to do [information is a bit dated, considering I graduated in May of 2007; perhaps, there is new evidence suggesting otherwise]. Perhaps if we stopped differentiating bullying from physical and mental abuse, we'd get somewhere.
Cereal:
I grew up all the way through high school on military bases. My dad was directly responsible for my behaviour in school. As a result of bad behaviour on my part ( and this went for every child) my father was subject to discipline up to and including court martial and discharge from the military.
The really bad kids were the ones who smoked cigarettes!
There are no checks and balances for the kids here. They can do what they want almost without serious consequence. Bring the parents into it, make them ultimately responsible for the activities of their offspring. My guess is that things would change.
kjdegraff:
Change the teachers? How about a change to the system? Too much emphasis on high stakes testing, and no interest in developing character. It's a problem.
Rusty Shackleford:
--- Quote from: wrinklebump on April 23, 2012, 05:52:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: Rusty Shackleford on April 23, 2012, 07:44:21 AM ---Every time this topic comes up I say the same thing and get shouted down. Stop forcing people to do stuff they don't want to do. Part of the problem is that the bullies don't want to be at school. Same with the bullied. If you gave these people the option to do as they please, much of the problem would dissipate, instead of forcing people into these toxic situations.
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just from a public safety perspective, taking troubled youths out of the schools and tossing them onto the streets,
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Because "tossing" them onto the "streets" is the only alternative to toxic schools. ::)
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