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Offline rokdav

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Re: How to deal with foreigners
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2011, 06:28:49 pm »
some times its hard for koreans as waygookins own preference vary so greatly. i hope i am invited to all school extra events (such as sports day, trips etc) as it makes me feel included. however many of my friends find them awkward and a waste of time.
equally even if koreans understand we may not love korean food, in the school cafeteria there is little they can do about this, unless we expecting them to make a special waygook specific meal.

agree with the 'please' issue and also using questions as opposed to orders. also the issue that overtime should be payed or reward, as thats what our contracts state. too often im given extra lessons and then my CT is shocked when i ask what i will receive in return.


overall though seems like a good list and a very godd idea.

Offline makeshiftb0y

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Re: How to deal with foreigners
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2011, 08:03:38 pm »
I agree with Warrior on this one. I think we need to adapt to Korean life more much than our employers need to adapt to accommodate us. Yeah, maybe it would be nice if things were more like home sometimes, but I'm not home, so I should expect to be treated like I am.

But it is a hard question to answer since every foreigner is so different. What bothers me might not bother someone else, and vice versa, like Rokdav pointed out. I'm invited to all my school events as well, and I go to them even if I don't want to or if I won't understand everything. I feel I'm a part of the school, so I should go. Most NETs I know refuse to go and just complain about stuff all the time, makes me wonder why they're here.

Perhaps I'm a bit biased though, because I've seemed to have gotten pretty lucky with the co-teachers I have. Some things do irk me a lot though, like getting last minute assignments, but when I talk to other teachers at my school, they say it's the same with them and that they don't like it either. So, I don't expect them to treat me differently (better) because I'm a foreigner.

As for asking what I ate or did I eat, I don't mind. I just say, "Yes, I ate blah blah blah." My response is usually much more concise than theirs, since they usually have many sides. Besides, they probably think asking "What's up?" is weird.

Offline Brirish

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Re: How to deal with foreigners
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2011, 08:34:05 pm »
Agree with sayiing please, agree with no giving orders but rather asking questions. Agree with the points abouot the contract, and I would also add that in the countries NETs come from it is always taken as given that both parties will always stick to a contact, and it would seem somewhat unprofessional if one party wanted to deviate from the conract.

Also, it seems to me that this is for a series of "pointers" for Koreans for whenhey encounter someoe from a different country, so I wold also include thigs like:

We believe a handshake should be firm (it is also common to shake hands with women).

Coments on physical appearance (good or bad) are unlikely to be appreciated. (You're very handsome/pretty would be considered inappropriate).

Many Konglish words are not words or phrases that are used in the same way in English, so they could throw native Enlish speakers off. I'm thinking of things like 아파트, 원룸, 웰빙, 샤프, 스탠드, 섹시, 그랜드 오픈, 나이트 and so on and so on.

For us, sneezing into a tissue is the polite thing to do, spitting is the opposite.

We don't tend to make small talk about our food as often as Koreans do, prefering to talk about the weather. "Have you eaten" is a strange greeting in English.

Also, many Koreans will never have had any reason to think about things like how hard it is to get a phone for a foreigner in Korea, or how Korean websites make it very difficult for non-Koreans to use them.

Lastly, I would explain that the word "foreigner" in English tends to be considered quite a negative word. While it may not be considered so rude in Korean to refer to non-Koreans as "외국인", virtually all non-Koreans here know the word, and think of it in terms of the English word "foreigner" - thus it may have connotations or feelings of exclusion, xenophobia and us and them syndrome.

On a related issue, while Koreans may view the world somewhat in term of Koreans and "everyone else" (often subconscously - but then it is built into their language), that sort of viewpoint is less common outside of Korea, and in English speaking countries especially. Therefore, questions such as "do foreigners do/like/know ..." aren't likely to be received well, as we don't think of ourselves as being one large collective.

Lastly, as I know this has caused problems for some people I know in Korea, race is not the same as nationality (e.g. Where are you from?
Britain.
But where are you really from.
A city called ... in Britain.
No, I mean where are you actually from. What is your country?
I'm actually from Britain.
No, no, no.
Well, my parents are from ....
Ah, so you're from ....
No, I'm from Britain.)

This last is a cultural difference and a difference in the way of thinking that has the potential to cause confusion.