Author Topic: Do you give prizes? Why or why not?  (Read 2670 times)

Offline Abroo1

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Re: Prizes in Class
« Reply #40 on: May 22, 2011, 07:46:56 pm »
we use a prize box that has random cheap stuff like pens and pencils, erasers, those cheap plastic piggy banks, bubbles, practice notebooks, anything cheap but useful, and surprisingly, the kids do like getting things other than candy!! ;D

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Re: Prizes in Class
« Reply #41 on: May 22, 2011, 09:25:40 pm »
I occasionally give out candy, but I've been trying to steer away from that - mainly due to cost and concern for the kids teeth.

Instead, I've been allowing the winning team to leave class first - especially important for those classes right before lunch.   ;D

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Re: Prizes in Class
« Reply #42 on: May 22, 2011, 11:06:43 pm »
I am teaching at an elementary school, and my 4th and 6th grade students go gaga over stickers.  However, my second graders are so enthusiastic to speak in class that they don't need stickers.  I taught at a public high school last year, and they didn't want stickers; giving candy as a reward was all that I could do to get their sleepy heads to tlak.

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Re: Prizes in Class
« Reply #43 on: May 23, 2011, 07:34:37 am »
1)  I have each student make a name tent and at my discretion place stickers on the back of each name tent deemed "worthy" each class.  (Prizes will be awarded 2-4x/year)

2)  I have "horse races" between the classes each day (ie.  Monday class 1-2 vs 1-4 vs 1-6) and the best class each day is rewarded with a sticker.  The tracking sheets are hung prominently in the front of the classroom. (2-4x/year a movie and snack day will be awarded to the class each day with the highest amt of stickers)

3)  lastly:  each day before 1st period I go to my classroom door, and hang a new phrase on my Phrase That Pays board.  I carry little 1.5" x 1.5" "dollars" in my pocket and for every child that comes up to me during the day and says the phrase correctly - they get one.  The only kicker is they can't get one if they have class with me that day.  This is a fun way to encourage kids to use + practice english on days when they on't have class with me.  (Prizes will be awarded 2-4x/year as well)
 

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Re: Prizes in Class
« Reply #44 on: May 25, 2011, 03:10:44 am »
Are these ideas good for MS students too? I know for elementary kids it would be great, but for MS or even HS kids, I feel like it would be less motivating, but I'm not sure because I don't know what kids are into over there. I teach MS and HS now and they love the honor system and getting a huge prize at the end of the year, but I'm not sure this would work in Korea.

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Re: Prizes in Class
« Reply #45 on: May 25, 2011, 06:45:28 am »
depends i think.i used to give out candies last year a lot

but this year, I'm giving out less candies.

i give candies only when there was a group work and they cooperated with each other.
I dont give them for individual work or for just doing the work.
because they should be enjoying the work itself rather than receiving prizes.

just my personal opinion.


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Re: Prizes in Class
« Reply #46 on: May 25, 2011, 11:56:17 am »
I remember when I was young, my 2nd grade teacher would sit us in rows (abt 5 students per row) and if the entire row was able to behave like clean up quickly, or be the first to all keep quiet or get back into their seats the fastest after an activity, he would put a tick next to our row number which was written on the blackboard. At the end of the day, the row with the most ticks would get to pick a smelly sticker out from a box. That worked wonders as I remember I would get the naughtiest ones in my row to fall in line and conform, just so that our row could win a sticker. The teacher didn't have to do a thing! I collected many a sticker that year!

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Re: Prizes in Class
« Reply #47 on: May 25, 2011, 12:23:30 pm »
A few things to can do if you don't want to spend money (we do this at my main school with 250+ 6th graders):

Stamp cards are attached to the inside of their book. Stamps can be earned in various ways...doing homework, winning games, etc. When different numbers are reached on the stamp sheet (we do 15, 30, 45...), then the students get a coupon. There are three different coupons that won't cost you a dime! (or a begwon!)

Read a book in class -- Allows the student to choose one class period they don't have to participate in class, but instead can read a book
Sit by a friend -- Allows students to choose a friend they can sit by for the chosen class period
No Homework -- Gives the students a free pass for one day of homework

At my country school where I have considerably fewer students, I do the candy thing! They love it and it helps keep them motivated!

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Candy, stickers and prizes - our thoughts on rewards
« Reply #48 on: May 26, 2011, 10:13:25 am »
Hi All,

While I think that the stickers and candy idea of reward and positive reinforcement is grand, I personally am not a fan of it.

We were at GEPIK orientation recently and one of the speakers commented on this also, saying that there's an element to the stickers system that seems a little hackneyed, naff even.

Saying that, I'm sure this system works really well for a great many of you - it just doesn't sit well with me personally.

I give praise and reward good behaviour during class with game play and light hearted activities.  Only fundamentally bad behaviour (hitting, getting up and running around) is punished with 3 strikes followed by additional homework.

It *is* working well, and I feel a real rapport with my kids, except today, one of my classes had a little moan about why my co-teachers issue stickers but I don't.  I wanted to say, "You're in school, you're doing this so you can be better at English," but clearly - that would never wash with them ^^

So... while I'm adverse to issuing stickers... I'm thinking maybe I should meet them half way and reward good behaviour with watching a video the last class of every month or something?

Anyway - curious to hear people's ideas!  Courses for horses and all that ^__^

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Re: Candy, stickers and prizes - our thoughts on rewards
« Reply #49 on: May 26, 2011, 10:18:33 am »
Do you have any input on their grade beyond speaking tests?

In my case, I have 50% input on their English score. Stickers (actually called performance points) are only given out for homework and trying their best to speak. I calculate the number of weeks, pre-plan all of my homework for the semester and let the students as well as my co-teachers know the total amount of points students need to achieve by the end of the semester to get a good grade.

The class score is therefore 25% midterm speaking test, 25% performance points and 50% input from the co-teacher based on their own class and tests.

Has worked so far for a few years now.

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Re: Candy, stickers and prizes - our thoughts on rewards
« Reply #50 on: May 26, 2011, 10:34:11 am »
Sorry - I should say I teach 5th and 6th grade elementary :)

Wow - that sounds so thorough and is obviously getting the results you need!  And great that it's a joint venture with your CT.

If you have more details I would love to hear them :)

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Re: Candy, stickers and prizes - our thoughts on rewards
« Reply #51 on: May 26, 2011, 11:10:22 am »
When I was at one of the orientations, they said to buy cheap toys and stuff. Everyone said that candy/prizes and all that were great for keeping the students in check.

For me, it worked in the beginning and it definitely gets them participating in class, but I teach at a high school and start to feel sad that they had to have some kind of reward for them to do any work. It's one thing to use it to get them to stop being shy and stuff, it's another to keep using it just to get them to do anything!

I found that after awhile, the students became really greedy. They expected it and wouldn't really do anything without it. I think this builds the wrong kind of attitude. Plus, all that candy can't be good for them, lol.

My situation is like Kory's in that I have a stake in their grades. Plus, I have other forms of punishment that affect their final grades so that's what I'm using now. As I have advised others before on this site, the best way to get them to do work is for them to feel as though it is worth something and that they have something to lose if they don't do it. I know this sounds horrible but at least this way they study and actually learn what you teach them for exams and such, rather than just memorizing it in the moment for some prize.

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Re: Candy, stickers and prizes - our thoughts on rewards
« Reply #52 on: May 26, 2011, 11:15:31 am »
The only 'reward' my middle school boys get is my approval. That, and my speaking tests count toward their grade.
The Ks once gave me five minutes notice. I didn't know what to do with the extra time.

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Re: Candy, stickers and prizes - our thoughts on rewards
« Reply #53 on: May 26, 2011, 11:39:26 am »
I agree with you, OP... and so do most real teachers.

On the other hand, there's a difference between marking their progress and bribing them to learn... candy and toys are bad ideas because candy lasts about a minute after the end of class and then it's gone, and toys can be removed from the context of the classroom or broken, lost or forgotten about. Stickers and stamps are fine-- but if you give the students stickers to put on their books (I used to do this), then they'll lose them or they'll fall apart, and they'll say they've lost their sticker and they'll ask for a new one-- and you'll have to say 'no' because you can't tell if they're telling the truth or not. The best way to do it is to have a chart that you can keep safe. 

But yeah, I don't think that in your case the students are asking for a reward as much as they just want to know how they're doing in your class. I know that you probably approve and disapprove but that doesn't leave any sort of concrete proof that they're doing well... so they don't feel as involved in your class. Showing them a video will make them happy, but it's not really giving them any bearing on their progress.
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Re: Candy, stickers and prizes - our thoughts on rewards
« Reply #54 on: May 26, 2011, 11:40:51 am »
I don't think the kids should get any reward apart from some verbal positive reinforcement, but that doesn't seem to work here  ::)

I don't give lollies because, apart from boogies  :'(  , stickiness from lollies that other teachers give them is what I spend a lot of my cleaning time scrubbing off everything.

I have a name chart on the wall.  If everyone is good, they get a small sticker next to their name at the end of class. 
If all/most students are feral, nobody gets a sticker. 

If a particular kid is well behaved, impresses me with great manners, actually turns up before the bell, helps me tidy the room without being asked, or tries really hard that lesson, they get a sticker on the chart.

Once any line of stickers reaches the edge of the paper (takes about 4 to 6 weeks), it's Prize Week - the student who has the most stickers in each grade gets a prize bag with some cheap Daiso stuff in it, like cute pencils, balloons, and whatnot.  They think this is a worthy goal, so it works.

I'm not going to reward every.single.thing - last time I tried that, kids would get a lolly for doing well, then, 5 minutes later, they'd be acting like a rear-orifice, or other kids would sook and moan because they didn't get a lolly  ::)

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Re: Candy, stickers and prizes - our thoughts on rewards
« Reply #55 on: May 26, 2011, 11:41:09 am »
Will send a PM later with general details. Busy Thursday as per usual. It is nice to reward students with things like prizes for either good behavior or motivation. I would not go with candy or toys though...classes get very comparative...kids, especially elementary get really, really upset if it looks like the teacher favours some students over others.

Some really cheap alternatives, if you can, is to bring over things from your home country...your mayors office or government office can offer free pins or things you can bring over. I personally brought over about 1,000 old pokemon cards I bought at a garage sale for about 2 dollars. They are 15 years old but the kids go absolutely ape in my afterschool classes or when I used to teach kindergarten. I gave all students a card a week for good work. If you have a chance to go home at any time, I recommend Yu-Gi-Oh, Pokemon for boys and girls, and anything else you can think of that is already here and popular that you can get at home.

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A different type of viewpoint on prizes!
« Reply #56 on: May 26, 2011, 12:24:17 pm »
There have been several posts recently arguing the pros and cons of using prizes in classrooms.

I'm a professional full-time dog trainer and I hear a similar argument from many of my clients. Now before you discredit my viewpoint, let me say that everything I do with dogs is based on universal scientific learning theory. Almost everything that I learned about dog training, I learned from my college psychology classes!

People can be so resistant to using treats/rewards! "My dog should behave because I said so," and "my dog should do what I say because he is a dog!" or "verbal praise should be enough for my dog."

ACTUAL rewards can go a LONG way! I'm willing to bet that if your school stopped paying you money, and instead only offered "good job today!"... it wouldn't take long for you to stop showing up to work. Verbal praise can go a long way, but it's never the same as getting "paid" with a highly motivating "treat." This can vary based on different situations, distractions, and from pupil to pupil.  For dogs, a pat on the head and a "good boy" might make him wag his tail, but it's NOTHING compared to a tasty treat!

I'm not advocating giving candy and prizes out for every good deed, however. Although reward-based training/teaching is INCREDIBLY effective, it can easily be misused. Back to the dog training example, one common mistake is to "bait" a dog into behaving. Dangle the treat, and maybe he'll sit. When you make treats THAT obvious with dogs, they will only behave for you when you openly promise a reward. If instead, you are more subtle with your treats, and give them out more randomly, you will likely be able to get your dog to perform a "sit" even if there isn't a treat within a one block radius of where you're standing. It's always about the surprise factor and creating positive expectation. I think that same idea can be applied to classroom rewards with ESL students.

Before I became a positive reinforcement trainer, I was strictly a "punishment" trainer, save for some verbal praise. Although I could still get the dogs to perform basic obedience commands flawlessly, there was a DRAMATIC difference in attitude and even outcome. I am lucky to have that experience because it taught me some valuable lessons, which I plan to apply in my ESL classes when I get to Korea. There is a huge difference between force and inspiration.

Some of you have mentioned taking away homework, etc as the reward. This is called negative reinforcement. "Negative," because you're removing something (in this case, homework), and "reinforcement" because that action makes it more likely that the subject will repeat whatever behavior you are rewarding (in this case, volunteering, or behaving politely, or getting a correct answer, etc). Although negative reinforcement does work, I don't think it's quite as effective as positive reinforcement. "Positive," because you are adding something (games, candy, stickers, etc) , and "reinforcement" because that will make desired behavior more likely to be repeated.  From my experience, positive reinforcement is the quickest, most effective way to build solid, long-term learning.

What I've been referring to are some basic fundamentals of learning theory. Humans are a little different because they can reason, which is something that dogs can't do. However, any basic application of positive behavior management will be just as effective with humans as it is with dogs, or dolphins, or fish. In fact, if applied correctly it should be even easier with humans because you actually speak the same language, so to say. The trick is to understand and apply these techniques the right way.

Although I have never taught in a human school, I teach basic obedience and puppy classes to dog owners, and my job is close to 90% about teaching people rather than teaching the dogs. I teach people to teach their dogs.

Anyhow, that's my two cents on prizes and rewards!