Alexandra Wallace you're, like, soooo not a "polite, nice American girl"

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[sashgi]

Hmm...I was following this dialogue fairly well for a while, but it seems like we're getting bogged down in abstracts.  It's not that necessary for us to define racism--no matter how we spin it, it seems we can all agree it's messed up.

Moreover, it's fairly easy to say we're all a little prejudiced over something.  I mean, the Welsh hate the Brits hate the Scots hate the Irish hate the Northern Irish.  And that's just how they feel about the people on those two islands.   

And how many regions of the USA are prejudiced?  North, West, South, Northeast, Old Northwest, West Virginia...all have prejudices and stereotypes, many times unfounded in truth, that permeate their cultures.

Asians even hate on each other quite a bit.  Anyone asked their Korean coteachers about Chinese people or Japanese people lately?

The important aspect here is not her level of racism.  It's more about what's appropriate for a video posted on an internationally-public forum (youtube).  After all, people are allowed to be racist/prejudiced/ignorant if they so choose to be.  But are they allowed to say these things to a public audience?  That's what we ought to be asking. 

After all, this is a frequent flier on youtube...most of us would deem it a tad inappropriate as well.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK2tWVj6lXw

[conorsean]

I mean, the Welsh hate the Brits hate the Scots hate the Irish hate the Northern Irish

Being an Irishman from Belfast I kind of have to take you up on that. Very generally (as I don't have all day) the residents of Northern Ireland are split into broad political factions and there is roughly a 50/50 split between Irish nationalists (who aspire to a United Ireland) and UK unionists (those who wish Northern Ireland to remain a part of the UK).

The Republic of Ireland, which make up 5/6th of the Island can be split roughly into four main categories. Those who really want the country united, those who pay lip service to wanting it, those who don't give a shit and those who want nothing to do with the north. The majority fall into the middle two categories.

Other Irish folk can feel free to take me up on this but I think it's a pretty fair assessment 

[WorkingTitle3484]

I think George Carlin summed it up the best.  One day, we'll be able to hate each other, not because of religion or the color of our skin, but truly because of the jerks that people really are!  Seems relevant for this thread...

[elspeth]

I would marry that guy. Anyone have his number?

Also, Andrea:

[adamwatch]

    "I mean, the Welsh hate the Brits hate the Scots hate the Irish hate the Northern Irish"

*** And you know this how?

Adam (who hates no one)

[energizerbuns]

Yes she is ignorant, racist and not a nice person. However calling her a slut in response to what she said (as some video responses do) is not ok.  Using sexism and slut shaming  in response to racism is just hypocritical. 

[elspeth]

Yes she is ignorant, racist and not a nice person. However calling her a slut in response to what she said (as some video responses do) is not ok.  Using sexism and slut shaming  in response to racism is just hypocritical.

To quote one of my favorite movie lines:

"I calls 'em like I sees 'em."

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[sashgi]

    "I mean, the Welsh hate the Brits hate the Scots hate the Irish hate the Northern Irish"

*** And you know this how?

Adam (who hates no one)

I mean, the Welsh hate the Brits hate the Scots hate the Irish hate the Northern Irish

Being an Irishman from Belfast I kind of have to take you up on that. Very generally (as I don't have all day) the residents of Northern Ireland are split into broad political factions and there is roughly a 50/50 split between Irish nationalists (who aspire to a United Ireland) and UK unionists (those who wish Northern Ireland to remain a part of the UK).

The Republic of Ireland, which make up 5/6th of the Island can be split roughly into four main categories. Those who really want the country united, those who pay lip service to wanting it, those who don't give a shit and those who want nothing to do with the north. The majority fall into the middle two categories.

Other Irish folk can feel free to take me up on this but I think it's a pretty fair assessment 

Thanks guys.  I definitely stand corrected on Northern Ireland (and maybe the rest the UK?).  Sorry for any unintentional offense, lol.  I'm writing based on my own experiences, that's all. 

[Davey]

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waygook.org encourages professional conduct and racism will not be tolerated.

[google jockey]

That's rich, complain about racism then sterotype californian blondes!

And what are you saying about rich people?


(I'm just kidding)

[neelbo1]

Both videos were great and funny.   I'm Asian and I didn't take any offense to the video but I'm not into being PC either.   I more offended by people  who go to university and still say "like". 

[joseph921]

What the girl said in many ways is true and right.  No matter who you are, you shouldn't be loud and disruptive in libraries when everyone is studying for exams.  Most of us NETs here can probably agree also with this because of how loud and inconsiderate our korean neighbors (mostly younger neihgbors) who scream and yell at 2:00am banging doors and running up and down hallways and stairs of our apt/one-rooms, for no apparent reason but to just be loud and make noise.

[ajminh]

Wow, that is the most racist thing I have ever seen! Typical dumb California bimbo... I  !

Kudos to the cool Asian dude though:)

 
Boyyyy, don't I have so many sorority/frat stories. EVERY friend I had who joined one, I lost them.

As you may already know, not all people who joined fraternities or sororities act like this girl. I was part of a fraternity and had some of the most fulfilling experiences (not just through partying) because of it. I made some great friendships both outside and inside the fraternity and still keep in touch w/ them. Unfortunately, too many people join for the wrong reasons and assume it's just all about partying. Many of them quit Greek life when they realize they have to participate in community and campus events.

[Vincent]

I mean, the Welsh hate the Brits hate the Scots hate the Irish hate the Northern Irish

The Republic of Ireland, which make up 5/6th of the Island can be split roughly into four main categories. Those who really want the country united, those who pay lip service to wanting it, those who don't give a shit and those who want nothing to do with the north. The majority fall into the middle two categories.

Other Irish folk can feel free to take me up on this but I think it's a pretty fair assessment 

Quite correct - I'd add another category of people from the North/South who would be nationalist in ideals but want no association whatsoever with Sinn fein/ The IRA. Possibly the lip-service category but more the I can't have an opinion on that.

I come form the midlands (South) where the IRA were fairly active  - near where they had their arms dumps. When we were growing up it was best not to feel too strongly either way as the boys who did generally got a talking to by the hardcore boys in our local area or got attention from the cops. The attention either way wasn't a good thing as the guys were more involved in drugs and robbing post offices than any actual true nationalist cause.

So while the assumption that the troubles affected the north more strongly than south is a valid one  it not really that simple. The social aspects of the troubles had much further reaching affects than the 6 counties.

[derbear86]

What the girl said in many ways is true and right.  No matter who you are, you shouldn't be loud and disruptive in libraries when everyone is studying for exams.  Most of us NETs here can probably agree also with this because of how loud and inconsiderate our korean neighbors (mostly younger neihgbors) who scream and yell at 2:00am banging doors and running up and down hallways and stairs of our apt/one-rooms, for no apparent reason but to just be loud and make noise.

I've had way more problems dealing with noisy white people in libraries or living next door than I have with Asians. And yet you won't catch me making a racist rant on video about all the noisy white folks. Being Korean or Asian has nothing to do with being a jackass, some people just are. It's also sad that a supposedly educated person would 1. Be a big fat racist and 2. Talk like a moron.

But I guess I shouldn't discriminate against those without brains.

[ajminh]

Ya, I went to Arizona State and also lost a friend or two... but hey if they thought they had to pay for friends then not really a big loss..   

I was an active alumni for one of the fraternities at ASU. The general attitude of Greek life there is different than how it was at my alma mater. Too many of them acted like the stereotypical fraternity boy or sorority girl. The members who use it to "buy" their friends are the same ones who fail to look past the social benefits of it.

[conorsean]

Quite correct - I'd add another category of people from the North/South who would be nationalist in ideals but want no association whatsoever with Sinn fein/ The IRA. Possibly the lip-service category but more the I can't have an opinion on that.

I come form the midlands (South) where the IRA were fairly active  - near where they had their arms dumps. When we were growing up it was best not to feel too strongly either way as the boys who did generally got a talking to by the hardcore boys in our local area or got attention from the cops. The attention either way wasn't a good thing as the guys were more involved in drugs and robbing post offices than any actual true nationalist cause.

So while the assumption that the troubles affected the north more strongly than south is a valid one  it not really that simple. The social aspects of the troubles had much further reaching affects than the 6 counties.

Couldn't agree more, but like I said, I didn't want to go into too much detail as you could write a book about the various intricacies of the whole shenanigans! Oh, and the IRA and Sinn Fein are and have always been completely separate organisations