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Visa extension, pension refund and winter vacation days Q's
« on: November 17, 2010, 11:24:31 am »
Hi all,

I haven't found anything that specifically addresses my Q's so I've decided to start a new thread, instead of adding to an existing one (in case no one checks the existing thread and responds).

Me: American NET with an EPIK contract.

My Questions:

1. When exactly does your visa expire? Stupid Q, but mine has several dates to choose from (the date the visa was issued, and the date I entered Korea and my visa was stamped). I assume I can stay for 365 days AFTER one of those dates. Which is it - the visa issue date or the date I actually entered the country?

2. What are the requirements for extending a visa? I assume I'll need to extend my visa to complete my current contract. Also, I am probably returning to the US for a few weeks this winter before returning for my new contract, beginning Feb/Mar 2011. My understanding is, I extend my current visa to the end of my current contract (expires end of Feb 2011). Then I go abroad. I come back before the start of the school year 2011. I enter the country on my current visa (extended), and when I start my new contract, I then get a new visa to go with it. Right?

3. How do I go about getting my pension refund for the year I've worked in Korea? I'd rather get a pension refund for each year instead of lump sum at the end of my time here. What's the procedure for that?

4. I asked this on another thread, but now can't find the thread. My understanding of my current contract and my new contract are that I get 10 business days winter vacation, 2 weeks renewal vacation, and my co-teacher mentioned something about if I take my vacation in February I will get ANOTHER week. Is this accurate?

5. Completely off topic - is there an easy way to find threads that I've posted responses to? I haven't found a way to search for those, and unless I write down the thread name and search that way I usually can't find them later (there's so much traffic on Waygook). Is there an easy way to find a list of all the postings I've ever made, or something?

Thanks for reading and responding. I'm new at all of this, so any feedback/experience/etc. is most welcomed. Thanks!
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Re: Visa extension, pension refund and winter vacation days Q's
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2010, 11:31:20 am »
Hi all,

I haven't found anything that specifically addresses my Q's so I've decided to start a new thread, instead of adding to an existing one (in case no one checks the existing thread and responds).

Me: American NET with an EPIK contract.

My Questions:

1. When exactly does your visa expire? Stupid Q, but mine has several dates to choose from (the date the visa was issued, and the date I entered Korea and my visa was stamped). I assume I can stay for 365 days AFTER one of those dates. Which is it - the visa issue date or the date I actually entered the country?

2. What are the requirements for extending a visa? I assume I'll need to extend my visa to complete my current contract. Also, I am probably returning to the US for a few weeks this winter before returning for my new contract, beginning Feb/Mar 2011. My understanding is, I extend my current visa to the end of my current contract (expires end of Feb 2011). Then I go abroad. I come back before the start of the school year 2011. I enter the country on my current visa (extended), and when I start my new contract, I then get a new visa to go with it. Right?

3. How do I go about getting my pension refund for the year I've worked in Korea? I'd rather get a pension refund for each year instead of lump sum at the end of my time here. What's the procedure for that?

4. I asked this on another thread, but now can't find the thread. My understanding of my current contract and my new contract are that I get 10 business days winter vacation, 2 weeks renewal vacation, and my co-teacher mentioned something about if I take my vacation in February I will get ANOTHER week. Is this accurate?

5. Completely off topic - is there an easy way to find threads that I've posted responses to? I haven't found a way to search for those, and unless I write down the thread name and search that way I usually can't find them later (there's so much traffic on Waygook). Is there an easy way to find a list of all the postings I've ever made, or something?

Thanks for reading and responding. I'm new at all of this, so any feedback/experience/etc. is most welcomed. Thanks!

http://epik.go.kr/

-> teacher's resources -> administrational tasks --> notes ...will answer most of your questions.

4.

winter = 10 working/business days...renewal gives you TWO CALENDAR weeks (essentially another 10 working/business days)...so in total, you get 20 (10 original + 10 renewal) working/business days off.

the extra weeks are to be taken two weeks before your current contract expires.

what she is referring to, i believe, is spring break, which is one week during february. however, if you used up all your vacation days before this break, then you will be required to come to school, even though there are no classes (i.e., desk warm).

5. at the top of the web page, click "profile" --> "show posts" or "show stats"
« Last Edit: November 17, 2010, 11:40:14 am by daveyc18 »
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Search this site using Google by typing, "site:waygook.org [search term]," especially during peak hours. Alternatively, use the site's search function.

EPIK: VISA, RENEWING, PENSION, ETC:

http://waygook.org/index.php/topic,2614.0.html


Re: Visa extension, pension refund and winter vacation days Q's
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2010, 11:40:59 am »
it can be confusing  ;)

1. your visa expires the date that is on your arc card (the date under your picture).

2. this year to extend your visa, you have to get a new criminal background check (now national) and an apostilled diploma. (this starts  jan 2011) you will go to immigration with your documents and they will stamp the back of your arc card with the extension dates and put a new stamp in your visa. if you plan on leaving the country more than once, you should ask for a multiple entry.

3. for pension, you have to take your finished contract and a plane ticket showing that you're leaving the country. you also need to have your american bank information. it takes about 6 weeks to get the refund (or it used to, anyway)

4 and 5, i'm not sure! lol.


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Re: Visa extension, pension refund and winter vacation days Q's
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2010, 11:47:04 am »
Where do you take your plane ticket and finished contract for the pension refund?

Thanks!


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Re: Visa extension, pension refund and winter vacation days Q's
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2010, 11:50:36 am »
Where do you take your plane ticket and finished contract for the pension refund?

Thanks!

hehe, did you not go to the epik web site? almost everything is there. regarding pension, the epik web site directs you to here:

www.nps.or.kr -> english -> Q&A
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Re: Visa extension, pension refund and winter vacation days Q's
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2010, 11:57:22 am »
2. this year to extend your visa, you have to get a new criminal background check (now national) and an apostilled diploma. (this starts  jan 2011) you will go to immigration with your documents and they will stamp the back of your arc card with the extension dates and put a new stamp in your visa. if you plan on leaving the country more than once, you should ask for a multiple entry.

3. for pension, you have to take your finished contract and a plane ticket showing that you're leaving the country. you also need to have your american bank information. it takes about 6 weeks to get the refund (or it used to, anyway)
To number two, I had heard that it was now postponed and will take affect in 2012. But I can't recall where I came across that information.

As far as for the plane ticket and pension, from my experience it doesn't work with a RT ticket. They seem to want proof that you're leaving Korea, not leaving and coming back.


Re: Visa extension, pension refund and winter vacation days Q's
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2010, 12:06:45 pm »
2. this year to extend your visa, you have to get a new criminal background check (now national) and an apostilled diploma. (this starts  jan 2011) you will go to immigration with your documents and they will stamp the back of your arc card with the extension dates and put a new stamp in your visa. if you plan on leaving the country more than once, you should ask for a multiple entry.

3. for pension, you have to take your finished contract and a plane ticket showing that you're leaving the country. you also need to have your american bank information. it takes about 6 weeks to get the refund (or it used to, anyway)
To number two, I had heard that it was now postponed and will take affect in 2012. But I can't recall where I came across that information.

As far as for the plane ticket and pension, from my experience it doesn't work with a RT ticket. They seem to want proof that you're leaving Korea, not leaving and coming back.


I am almost certain the federal background check is delayed until 2012 statement is not true.  I came across somebody saying that and other posters shot it down and provided links stating it is in affect.  Wish I could remember the name of the topic I read it on.

As for the pension and RT I am fairly certain this is how it works.
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Re: Visa extension, pension refund and winter vacation days Q's
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2010, 12:37:37 pm »
Our POE contact sent out emails clarifying the new E2 Visa requirements.  If you are currently teaching, and you are renewing for 2011, you can get 1 visa extension without having to submit new documents. 


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Re: Visa extension, pension refund and winter vacation days Q's
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2010, 12:56:39 pm »
Our POE contact sent out emails clarifying the new E2 Visa requirements.  If you are currently teaching, and you are renewing for 2011, you can get 1 visa extension without having to submit new documents.
Thank you, that's what I was thinking of! I remember now that I received that information via my area coordinator, Ary.


Re: Visa extension, pension refund and winter vacation days Q's
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2010, 01:12:53 pm »
I am seconding these last two replies. From the Office of Education:

In summary. The immigration office will not require you to submit an apostilled diploma and criminal record check the first time you change the status of your E-2 Visa since September 2010. So for most of you, if you decide to renew your contract and extend the duration of your E-2 Visa, you will be exempt from submitting the new documents. Some of you may have used the one time waiver already if you applied for a change in status or registered with the Immigration Office after September 2010. You are required to submit the documents the second time you change the status of your visa.

It is a very long email with some exceptions, so if you are with epik and didn't get this, let me know and I'll post it or PM me and I send it to you.


Re: Visa extension, pension refund and winter vacation days Q's
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2010, 01:18:50 pm »
Hmmm interesting. Ok, I registered with immigration in May of this year.  This is my first year at a public school, but second E2 visa. I worked in a Hagwon in 2009. 

My contract ends in April. If I want to extend my contract another year will I be eligible for the extension or do I need a FBI background check?

Thanks in advance for any information.
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Re: Visa extension, pension refund and winter vacation days Q's
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2010, 11:07:26 am »
Hi all, thanks for the input.

Yes, I forget there's a sample contract on the EPIK web site, as I think of these things when I'm on Waygook and think to just ask here instead of looking for an online copy, as I don't have my own copy with me usually...so thanks for the reminder.

Concerning renewing visas, background checks etc., I sent my paperwork off for the FBI check but don't expect it back anytime soon. My understanding of the visa extension/renewal procedure is, you apply to extend your current visa, then get a NEW visa with your new contract? So I wouldn't need the background check for the extension, but I would for the new visa? Or do you keep the same visa, and just extend it two times? I haven't seen the email that injuredeagle quoted from so I'm confused about renewing/extending. They seem to be used interchangeably.

injuredeagle, if you could post that email here that would be great. If you don't in the next day or so I'll PM you.

Thanks all.
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Re: Visa extension, pension refund and winter vacation days Q's
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2010, 12:10:56 pm »
OK, I'll post it. My apologies for the length......




Dear NETs,


Greetings. For the past couple of weeks, the coordinators’ office has contacted different levels of Korea Immigration Service to obtain more and accurate information about the change in E-2 issuance policy. I visited Daegu Immigration Office and confirmed the below policy is being applied to DMOE teachers. I will try to elaborate the policy as much as possible so please read this email carefully and thoroughly.


***For Canadians. Please be advised that when I say apostilled diploma and CRC, it would be a Korean embassy verified diploma and CRC.

 

 

For the E-2 visa holding foreign language instructors who are currently residing and working in Korea, one application for the change in the status of sojourn (extending the duration of E-2 Visa, changing workplaces, changing schools, etc...) will be accepted and granted by submitting only the documents that were required before the change in September, 2010. (One-time exemption)
 
 

1) Status of sojourn

   After the E-2 visa was issued to you and you registered with the Immigration Office (when you obtained your ARC), you submitted documents to register information such as who you work for(DMOE contract) and where your work place is(your school’s business registration). In turn, the Immigration Office gave you a period of time during which your E-2 visa is valid and you can stay and work in Korea. Who you work for, where you work, and how long you are going to work in Korea are some elements of your status of sojourn.

 

2) Application for the change in the status of sojourn

   You need to report and submit an application to make a change in your registration and status of sojourn to the Immigration Office if:

   a) your employer changes (if you finish the contract with DMOE and begin working somewhere else)

   b) your work place changes (if you change to a new school)

   c) you have additional work places (if you are to work at another school in addition to the school you initially registered as your workplace), or

   d) you need to extend your visa period in order to complete the contract.

   These 4 cases are what generally apply to DMOE teachers.

 

   *** For most teachers, only case d) applies.


- If you are not renewing with DMOE in February 2011 or August 2011, you will be able to extend your E-2 visa until the last day of the contract without submitting the apostilled diploma and the apostilled central government level CRC, under the condition that you do not apply for a change in the status of sojourn between September 2010 and when you apply for E-2 extension.
 
- If you are renewing with DMOE in February 2011 or August 2011, you will be able to extend your E-2 visa until the last day of the new contract without submitting the apostilled diploma and the apostilled central government level CRC, under the condition that you do not apply for a change in the status of sojourn between September 2010 and when you apply for E-2 extension. If you apply for a change in status after commencement of the renewed contract, you must submit the apostilled diploma and apostilled central government level CRC then. If you are interested in transferring to another school within Daegu, you will indicate your interest and request at the time of renewal application which is 2 to 3 months before the last day of your current contract. Your placement will be finalized before the renewal contract signing day so please remember to obtain and bring the business registration document of your new school to the Immigration Office when you extend your visa. (This will allow you to avoid applying for the changes in status twice hence avoid submitting the two documents for longer period.)
 
 

3) Documents required to apply for a change in status of sojourn before September 2010. (The “old” required documents)

  : passport, ARC, application form, original copy of the contract, business registration paper of your school, application fee

 

 

Next time you go to the Immigration Office to apply for a change in status of sojourn, the clerk will inform you of the change in required documents and that the apostilled diploma(or KCUE verification) and apostilled CRC are required to make any change in the future, verbally or in writing. This will be the formal notice and the fact that the notice was given to you and you confirmed your understanding of the change will be left in record in the database, on the paper or electronically. From then on, when your record on the database is opened, it will indicate that you have been notified and you confirmed your understanding of the new change, and your application for a change in status of sojourn, including extension of E-2 visa, will not be granted without submitting the apostilled diploma(or KCUE verification) and CRC after the first visit.
 
 

Important Notes:

1) Depending on where you applied for your E-2 visa, the documents you have submitted when you first applied for it may have been scanned and saved on the Immigration Service database. If you bring your ARC and passport to the Daegu Immigration Office, they are able to bring up your record and see if your documents are electronically stored. (They do not provide this service over the phone.) If the Immigration Office can confirm that you have submitted apostilled diploma and apostilled central government level CRC, you may be exempted from submitting new sets of documents. If your documents are stored in the database but they are not apostilled documents (notarized or original, etc.) or are non-central government level CRCs, you will not be exempted from submitting the documents to apply for a change in status of sojourn.

2) If you have visited the Immigration Office and registered and obtained ARC or applied for an extension or change in workplace after August 31st, you may have “used” your one-time waiver. Please confirm with the Immigration Office to make sure when you are expected to have the documents ready.

3) The CRC is valid only if it was issued within 6 months before the time of submission. If you happen to have an apostilled central government level CRC with you that was issued recently, please check with Daegu Immigration Office if you can submit it now to prove your clean criminal history before you came to Korea.

4) The various government agencies offering the Criminal Record Check(ex. FBI for US and RCMP for Canada) may offer a "verification" service such as a signature, stamp, or seal. Some embassies and foreign ministries will not aposotillize the CRC without this verification, so please look accordingly.

 

 

Answers to questions that were asked multiple times by NETs

1) Can Korean CRC be submitted instead of one from my home country?

     You have been in Korea for past few months and years but it seems like the Immigration Service would like to have a criminal history check at the central government level before you moved to Korea, so no, Korean CRC is not accepted.
 
2) Can fingerprinting for CRC application be done in Korean police station?
     Yes, I have talked one DMOE native teacher who already have obtained a set of fingerprints taken at Daegu Dongbu Police Station. He printed and brought fingerprint form from the FBI website and was able to get the fingerprinting done. The FBI fingerprint form can be obtained at http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/background-checks/standard-fingerprint-form-fd-258. A South African teacher also forwarded a set of emails she exchanged with SA embassy and confirmed that the South African fingerprint form can be obtained from the embassy's website and have fingerprinting done at a Korean police station as well.
For Canadians, this link  http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cr-cj/c216-eng.htm provides information on what fingerprint forms to use. Some countries don't require fingerprints for criminal record checks, so please check accordingly.
      I searched and found out that there are some big police stations in Daegu and since Bukbu, Seobu, Jungbu, and Nambu Police Station are at the same level as Dongbu Police Station, they would provide the fingerprinting service as well. I could contact individual police stations and confirm this but I did not want to hold this e-mail until I confirm all that to avoid further delay. (Thank you Daniel, Jeffery, and Allison for sharing the information.)
 
3) Can we get our co-teachers' help in obtaining the fingerprints?
     I looked into the process and it seems like Korean translation would be needed for visits to Police Stations. I will ask and see if there is a way for DMOE to ask for co-teachers' cooperation formally. If you cannot schedule a visit together soon, obtaining a letter from your co-teacher explaining what kind of service you need could also be a way.
 
4) Can we get "temporary extension of stay" instead of renewing E-2?
     No, I checked with the Immigration Service and this is a serious offence against the immigration law since it is illegal to work and earn money on a tourist's visa in any country. Hopefully, this question was indirectly answered or is not concerned by many of you now since the first application for change in status does not require the apostilled diploma(or KCUE verification) and CRC. In addition, temporary extension of stay is for stay after the end of your contract period. Most of your contract ends on February 25 or August 25. It is not likely that you will be able to exit the country before midnight of those days and maybe you would like to stay a little longer for travels, packing up, or simply because you could not find a flight. If you are not renewing, when go to the Immigration Office to extend your E-2 until the last day of the contract, bring your flight ticket(no extension without flight ticket) and they will give you "temporary extension of stay" for maximum of 30 days from the day after the last day of the contract.

In summary. The immigration office will not require you to submit an apostilled diploma and criminal record check the first time you change the status of your E-2 Visa since September 2010. So for most of you, if you decide to renew your contract and extend the duration of your E-2 Visa, you will be exempt from submitting the new documents. Some of you may have used the one time waiver already if you applied for a change in status or registered with the Immigration Office after September 2010. You are required to submit the documents the second time you change the status of your visa.

 
I hope all this information lifts burdens off many of you. Let's take time and find out more information and maybe we can work on creating a step by step "manual" for obtaining documents ready from each country. The change was sudden and I do not personally agree with all the policies and regulations that I need to face in Korea. However, I just try to look at them as obstacles I have to go through to live in a foreign country. I will continue to work on gathering information and if you find out more information and would like to share them with other teachers, please let me know.
 

Just for clarification, the documents you submitted to EPIK was for employment purpose only. In order to hire instructors, EPIK had to know who you are and what qualifications you have. Immigration Service is under Ministry of Justice and going through their verification is for obtaining working+residing status / permit in Korea.
 
Thank you for reading this long e-mail. I hope it helped everyone in certain way. Have a nice day, everyone.


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Re: Visa extension, pension refund and winter vacation days Q's
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2010, 04:44:04 pm »
injuredeagle, thanks for posting that. I'm in not Daegu but I didn't get a similar email (at least with that level of detail) from my EPIK coordinator/whomever sent that to you. It answers a lot of questions. Thanks again. I hope this helps other people too.
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Re: Visa extension, pension refund and winter vacation days Q's
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2010, 12:17:55 pm »
Thank you injuredeagle for that information!

So, I am planning on changing jobs in February. I have not been to the immigration office since March. According to this I will NOT have to get the FBI check done. Am I correct?

Also, how come no recruiters know about this? I have been hearing about this but none of the recruiters have any idea what I am talking about.

I am in Seoul BTW. I dont know if that makes a difference.

Cheers!


Re: Visa extension, pension refund and winter vacation days Q's
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2010, 09:21:26 pm »
anyone?


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Re: Visa extension, pension refund and winter vacation days Q's
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2010, 11:06:35 am »
weekapaughead,

As far as I understand it, if you haven't renewed/extended your visa yet in Korea you should be fine to go in without the new paperwork. As for recruiters, I've no idea. Haven't heard anything from mine and don't know if they know about the new rules or not. Hope this helps.
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Re: Visa extension, pension refund and winter vacation days Q's
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2010, 11:21:48 am »
In regards to Question 4 (I briefly glanced through all the replies and didn't see this mentioned), The first week of February (technically 1-4, Tue-Fri) is Lunar New Years.  It's my understanding that no schools have classes that day, and there shouldn't be anyone at school (to let you in or otherwise).  I only have two weeks vacation during winter, but I'm taking advantage of LNY to go back to america for about 18 days.  I highly doubt that you'd have to deskwarm during Lunar New Years, just like you didn't have to deskwarm for Chuseok.


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Re: Visa extension, pension refund and winter vacation days Q's
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2010, 11:25:15 am »
FYI - The pension office requires you to show a ONE WAY TICKET leaving Korea as you are only supposed to apply for your reimbursement once (you are supposed to be leaving for good at time of application).

Here are the answers to some FAQ's on the NPS site:

http://www.nps.or.kr/apppage/english/qna/qna_01.jsp

If you get a pay stub you can make sure your school is making the correct contributions. Pension is 9% of your monthly salary (4.5% Employee / 4.5% Employer). I pay 120,000 a month in pension contributions (4.5% of my monthly salary).
« Last Edit: December 15, 2010, 11:33:04 am by Koradian »


Re: Visa extension, pension refund and winter vacation days Q's
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2011, 11:31:45 am »
Just wanted to update my earlier post since our native teacher meeting yesterday:

Turns out, they changed their minds once again and what I said is not true anymore. you need a national background check no matter what. There is no grandfather clause anymore.