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  • Paul
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This thread is for discussing the new textbook. If you have any reviews or opinions on this text, please place them below.

Please note that Cheonjae has put out two textbooks for 2012. This is for the one pictured below.

Title: 영어5/6
Publisher: 천재교육 [1/2] (Cheonjae [1/2])
First Listed Korean Author: 함순애
First Listed Foreign Author: Frances Sohn
Chapters: 13
« Last Edit: August 02, 2012, 02:13:22 am by complex303 »
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Re: Textbook Review 2012 - Cheonjae Book 1 (함순애, Frances Sohn)
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2011, 08:38:34 am »
we just chose these this morning. they were the only books and cd-roms that i had a chance to look through.

they seemed okay.....
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  • Paul
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Re: Textbook Review 2012 - Cheonjae Book 1 (함순애, Frances Sohn)
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2011, 09:52:09 am »
I had a chance to "review" this one, as it was shortlisted by my school.

Before I start, some disclaimers:

This is my quick and dirty personal set of observations, not the school's. As such, it is very possible I've missed something. I've intentionally focussed on listing the technical aspects rather than posting a review per se. These are those niggling type issues that will ultimately drive you up the wall. I've also intentionally refrained from making any overall judgements and not provided my opinions on the syllabus and topic order (my coteacher shortlisted some books based on this, and I'd rather leave those suggestions up to someone with greater experience), so you'll find the syllabus isn't touched on at all here. Please check over these books yourself if asked for an opinion, especially the syllabus pages of the teacher's guide. If your school is in a hurry to choose between two or three good syllabuses/syllabi, then hopefully these notes may help you identify a few things to look for in the CD and books that are easily overlooked and make a decision.

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Student Book:
Thin and very poorly bound. The spine tore to pieces on the first time I smacked it on the table to test. (1/5)
Not very many player cards in the back (3/5)
Plenty of English exists in the book, along with tracing and fully ruled sections for student writing. (4/5)
Typesetting is good: custom fonts exist to avoid confusion between classic typeface and modern handwritten lowercase letters. (5/5)
Layout is consistent between chapters. (5/5)
Above Average in content
Extremely Below Average in durability


Teacherís Guide:
Comprehensive, but with a strong focus on listing English you may wish to use in class. All syllabus and pedagogical information is presented strictly in Korean. Shows a distinct lack of aids aimed at native speaking staff members, but this is unfortunately standard. (3/5)
Images of the studentís textbook appear throughout, although these are too small to read. (2/5)
Syllabus pages are double page and clean. Aims are monolingual (Korean). (5/5)
Above Average

CD ROM:
CD popped out of its jewel case without major difficulty. Ran perfectly on two computers at first attempt. (4/5)
A clickable book interface is available. Some minor delays occur when used. (4/5)
Imagery on animated segments is childish but tidy. (3/5)
Acting and voice work in live action segments is decent. (4/5)
Average.

Age Appropriateness:
Questionable. The imagery depicts characters mostly a little younger than the age of the audience. (2/5)
Below Average

Other Notes:
Compacts the course into 13 chapters instead of 16. The course is split 4/3/3/3 with review sections at the breaks. Presumably the semester breakdown is 4/6/3. Personally, Iím not sure how this works, I feel this would need a second look at if you are considering this text, or at the very least would be something to keep in mind when using it..
« Last Edit: September 16, 2011, 10:00:06 am by Paul »
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Re: Textbook Review 2012 - Cheonjae Book 1 (함순애, Frances Sohn)
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2011, 11:13:06 am »
nice review, thanks paul.

i think it's also good to note that the speakers' accents are quite good. even the token "korean girl" sounds native.

the acting in the listen and repeat sections leaves a lot to be desired though. one of the boys ends his sentence by saying "see you la-TER!" - with a heavy emphasis on the last part of later. this could be an issue with some students.

i liked the book when i looked at it, which is why i recommended it (even though it was the only book i was really able to look through).

the number of lessons could be a problem though, but this book doesn't have the least number out of all of the options.
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  • complex303
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Re: Textbook Review 2012 - Cheonjae Book 1 (함순애, Frances Sohn)
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2011, 11:30:45 am »
I'm going to follow Paul's lead.

5th grade book: The English is a little bit awkward and formal. 
The CD has videos that are not voiced-over, but are a bit boring and has bad acting.

6th grade book: There are a few Konglish phrases ďTake a rest!Ē but the English is OK.
The CD is not voiced-over, but it has bad acting. The dialogues sound flat and boring.

I recommended this book to my school because it's not voiced-over and covers 5th and 6th grade.  My co-teacher is also eager to use this book because the 3rd and 4th grade equivalents have many materials on the Korean website.  She expects these books to have lots of materials, too.

Also, I heard from another teacher and my co-teacher that this book was written by school teachers.  The other Cheonjae book was written by professors.
« Last Edit: August 02, 2012, 02:12:51 am by complex303 »


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Re: Textbook Review 2012 - Cheonjae Book 1 (함순애, Frances Sohn)
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2011, 09:17:18 am »
I have a free day today, so I sat and played with the 천제 (Frances Sohn) CDRom (5th grade) and I am a bit embarrassed to admit that I pushed for this book/CDRom set without playing with the disc first. Now that I have, I'm a bit disappointed in it and myself. I really like what the book attempts to do with the English not being awkward and it is useful language, but OMG I can't understand a single instruction on the CDRom, I'm not one to get embarrassed easily in front of my students, but that is the quickest way to look stupid. You'd have to play with the entire CDRom before school started AND ask a friend or CT to help you understand each section before class (if you don't speak Korean) in order for you to know what's going on in your own class. Not to mention as Technomonkeyx (in the poll thread) mentions, it sooo horrible for them to hear THAT MUCH Korean in the English classroom. AND if you primarily teach alone (like I do now and may in the future) you really will feel lost with this set. Here's a lesson learned well..if you have the opportunity to review everything (even if they don't ask your opinion) , review everything and quickly; so you can give your opinion anyway.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2011, 09:24:34 am by weirdgirlinkorea »
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Re: Textbook Review 2012 - Cheonjae Book 1 (함순애, Frances Sohn)
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2012, 03:03:28 pm »
I wasn't sure where I should share this but here looked like a good place.  There is a lot of good material out there for the national textbooks (videos, ppts, worksheets, games) so I wanted to see if I could use some of that same material with the new Frances Sohn textbooks.  I took the new 5th and 6th grade Frances Sohn textbooks and compared the curriculum with the previous national textbooks.  The attached word files are what I came up with.  Red means a new expression or a new chapter that has nothing to do with the old textbooks.  Bold means an old textbook chapter that has materials similar to the new textbooks.  Happy planning!  :)


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Re: Textbook Review 2012 - Cheonjae Book 1 (함순애, Frances Sohn)
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2012, 10:18:12 am »
Pretty sure this is the book I worked on, I was trying to change a few things, but the company was pretty much set in their ways.

I haven't even looked at this book yet, I think I did 3,4,5,6, editing and proofreading and writing a lot of the teachers guide into hopefully comprehensible English. All of which I will receive no credit for. I did get paid for one bit of layout / information inputting. Which took hours to do TT.

I really have no choice but to use this book since, my co teacher is a co-creator.

Would kind of be nice to have my name in there!~
Oh well...


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Re: Textbook Review 2012 - Cheonjae Book 1 (함순애, Frances Sohn)
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2012, 02:27:00 pm »
I wasn't sure where I should share this but here looked like a good place.  There is a lot of good material out there for the national textbooks (videos, ppts, worksheets, games) so I wanted to see if I could use some of that same material with the new Frances Sohn textbooks.  I took the new 5th and 6th grade Frances Sohn textbooks and compared the curriculum with the previous national textbooks.  The attached word files are what I came up with.  Red means a new expression or a new chapter that has nothing to do with the old textbooks.  Bold means an old textbook chapter that has materials similar to the new textbooks.  Happy planning!  :)

very useful....thanks for posting :)


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Re: Textbook Review 2012 - Cheonjae Book 1 (함순애, Frances Sohn)
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2012, 12:20:04 pm »
I haven't really looked through these books yet but I have been playing with the student CDROMs. I agree with what people have said so far, that it is A LOT of Korean and will be less than helpful for the native speakers :(. I don't personally have access to a copy of the teacher's CD (as may be the case with others', my coteacher has taken ownership of it) but my coteacher tells me that it can be listened to/played with completely in English. She suggested that if I would like a copy of my own that I could download it here: http://www.chunjae.co.kr/
I apologize because I couldn't find the site in English, you may need to ask someone for help in navigating through it.


Re: Textbook Review 2012 - Cheonjae Book 1 (함순애, Frances Sohn)
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2012, 12:49:33 pm »
I wasn't sure where I should share this but here looked like a good place.  There is a lot of good material out there for the national textbooks (videos, ppts, worksheets, games) so I wanted to see if I could use some of that same material with the new Frances Sohn textbooks.  I took the new 5th and 6th grade Frances Sohn textbooks and compared the curriculum with the previous national textbooks.  The attached word files are what I came up with.  Red means a new expression or a new chapter that has nothing to do with the old textbooks.  Bold means an old textbook chapter that has materials similar to the new textbooks.  Happy planning!  :)

Thanks for the post. your work is much appreciated. I was looking for ways to recycle my old materials. This is PERFECT!!!!


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Re: Textbook Review 2012 - Cheonjae Book 1 (함순애, Frances Sohn)
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2012, 03:12:18 pm »
Can someone post the Teacher's Lesson Plan in English for the new 2012 5th and 6th Grade Elementary books please? The book is by Frances Sohn


  • rockiavelli
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New Textbooks: CheonJae (천재)/Francis Sohn Book for Grades 5 and 6
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2012, 09:50:44 am »
Just found out today that I'll be using this book.  Also got to meet one of my new co-teachers for the first time.

Oh, Korea.

How are you organizing the book, ladies and gents?

I ask because I see that there are 7 lessons in each unit now, rather than six.  I teach at two schools.  At my main school I teach the 5/6 graders twice a week, at the second school just once.  At the main school I was doing the first four lessons in the book, and the first two lessons at my second school.

I think I'm going to condense the book exercises in Lessons 1 and 2 into a single class.  These listening activities look better than the book from last year, and I like using listening activities as a more organic way to introduce key expressions that call and response.  This also frees up some prep time as the two lessons together should fill an entire class, instead of the usual 15 to 20 minutes from the book, meaning activities only have to be added for the other lessons.

This should also free up some more classes over the course of the year for game days/reward classes/holidays/random lost classes/etc. as there are only 13 units for the year.

Thoughts?  Opinions?



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Re: Grade 5 Index
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2012, 04:59:56 pm »
Hello,

I would like to know does anyone has the skill builder or any worksheets for the 5th graders? I am using the book Frances Sohn.

Thanks,

Tweety


Re: Textbook Review 2012 - Cheonjae Book 1 (함순애, Frances Sohn)
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2012, 12:08:23 pm »
The grade six teachers (who were not teaching English then and not now) got together last year and spent 20 minutes flipping through the many books available and decided on this one, despite my objections (why would my opinion matter? It's not like I was the only person in the room who would actually be teaching with the book the next year, right?).

At any rate, I've attached a word file breaking down the book by unit, target language, and the most applicable chapters from last year's book. If the chapter has a '~' in front of it, it just means there's a small aspect of the unit that's applicable. Hope it's useful.


Re: Textbook Review 2012 - Cheonjae Book 1 (함순애, Frances Sohn)
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2012, 12:19:18 pm »
Same as above for the grade 5 book.


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Re: Textbook Review 2012 - Cheonjae Book 1 (함순애, Frances Sohn)
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2012, 01:52:28 pm »
Ok, since I am one of the lucky ones with extremely efficient and helpful co-teachers, here is a little help with the Teachers Guides, as they have shown me. Check the word document attached for a quick step-by-step for downloading the Teachers Guide CD-ROM's for the Frances Sohn books. Weblink is within the document, top of the first page. Screenshots of the process are included. This will help you to get the CD downloaded, running, (I just run mine from USB, you don't need to burn a disc) and help you navigate through to the section of the disc where you can switch from Korean to English. I've also noted which pages of your hard-copy Teachers Guide to look at for a rundown of the years lessons, target phrases and vocab, and examples of lesson plans, all of which have both a Korean and English example copy included. These books are actually pretty decent, at least compared to some of the others, if you know which parts to look at. Given that some KT's don't do such a sterling job of assisting NET's in this respect, I'm more than happy to share what my KT's have shown me, and what I've discovered myself through a bit of messing around clicking random buttons.
« Last Edit: March 05, 2012, 02:00:40 pm by richarquis »


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Re: Textbook Review 2012 - Cheonjae Book 1 (함순애, Frances Sohn)
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2012, 03:05:05 pm »
Ok, since I am one of the lucky ones with extremely efficient and helpful co-teachers, here is a little help with the Teachers Guides, as they have shown me. Check the word document attached for a quick step-by-step for downloading the Teachers Guide CD-ROM's for the Frances Sohn books. Weblink is within the document, top of the first page. Screenshots of the process are included. This will help you to get the CD downloaded, running, (I just run mine from USB, you don't need to burn a disc) and help you navigate through to the section of the disc where you can switch from Korean to English. I've also noted which pages of your hard-copy Teachers Guide to look at for a rundown of the years lessons, target phrases and vocab, and examples of lesson plans, all of which have both a Korean and English example copy included. These books are actually pretty decent, at least compared to some of the others, if you know which parts to look at. Given that some KT's don't do such a sterling job of assisting NET's in this respect, I'm more than happy to share what my KT's have shown me, and what I've discovered myself through a bit of messing around clicking random buttons.

I was really excited to see this, but when I tried it on the fifth grade lesson one there wasn't any icon to switch to English I went to the same location on the 5th you were on in the 6th. Can you help me out? Your screen shots have the bottom cutoff so I can't see where you click for the language change.
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Re: Textbook Review 2012 - Cheonjae Book 1 (함순애, Frances Sohn)
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2012, 03:18:49 pm »
I had the same problem.. I was using the 6th grade CD and no options for language change. I've been clicking all over creation on that cd.. got nothing >_<;;;


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Re: Textbook Review 2012 - Cheonjae Book 1 (함순애, Frances Sohn)
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2012, 04:27:34 pm »
Hello,

I really need some help with the .hwp lesson plans on the indischool website as well as skill builder words for 5th and 6th graders. My co-teachers don't help me with anything and sometimes I am very lost :(. Any help will be very appreciative especially when it comes to i-scream information.

Thanks