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Offline Dhazaras

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Moving from Middle/High to Elementary- sort of
« on: September 29, 2016, 03:34:24 PM »
So basically, my contract is coming to a close and after hearing a rumour about Sacheon-si wanting to get rid of their native highschool and middle school teachers, my co and I thought we would ask.

Currently I teach at 2 middle schools and one highschool (where I also teach an adult class).

I will move from my main middle school to an elementary school in the same area. And also keep my other middle school and highschool.

Basically what I'm asking is does anyone else teach all three levels and if so, what is the biggest issue you have? I'm worried I won't be able to speak to them ...well... like kids. I'm too used to basically having normal (ish) conversations with my students.

Any tips for an elementary noob?

Thanks :)

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Re: Moving from Middle/High to Elementary- sort of
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2016, 03:58:47 PM »
It will depend a lot on your schools as they will differ wildly with principal, VP and co-teachers.  I now teach in a high school but spent a good number of years in the middle and elementary levels.  Like you said the conversation factor will be a big thing as now I love to be able to have jokes and conversations with my students.  Something that really wasn't possible in elementary.

If you are given a free reign in elementary that will be great.  It will also depend on whether you have to teach the text book as well.  So make sure you have short tasks (5 mins max.) as kids have shorter attention spans than middle/high.  A lot of it (depending on your co-teacher's passion) will involve classroom management and kids sitting in their seats.  Speaking board games and cards are good to get students practicing vocab and reading.  Try and aim for the middle level students.

In experience terms, it will be good for you to have taught all levels like this.  It will be challenging at times in elementary school but being able to work through that will give you another string to your bow.

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Re: Moving from Middle/High to Elementary- sort of
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2016, 06:05:44 PM »
I teach Elementary and Middle. Despite only teaching Elementary 1 day of the week, I love it. They will not be able to understand you like Middle or High School students but you will probably get more free reign with your lessons. I teach in a rural area so my CTs at my ES don't want me to teach the textbook. I can, however, play games/provide worksheets that go over the key words in the lesson. This gives me more freedom to do more craft-like and creative activities that are more hands-on. Or do a lesson that's completely separate from the book.

Ask your CTs if this is okay, they realize that the students won't understand most of what you're saying. So, if allowed, this could be a huge advantage.

If you're teaching upper elementary (5th & 6th) some of your students levels will surprise you. Some of my 5th & 6th graders are higher level than my middle schoolers.

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Re: Moving from Middle/High to Elementary- sort of
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2016, 10:41:50 PM »
I teach Elementary and Middle. Despite only teaching Elementary 1 day of the week, I love it. They will not be able to understand you like Middle or High School students but you will probably get more free reign with your lessons. I teach in a rural area so my CTs at my ES don't want me to teach the textbook. I can, however, play games/provide worksheets that go over the key words in the lesson. This gives me more freedom to do more craft-like and creative activities that are more hands-on. Or do a lesson that's completely separate from the book.

Ask your CTs if this is okay, they realize that the students won't understand most of what you're saying. So, if allowed, this could be a huge advantage.

If you're teaching upper elementary (5th & 6th) some of your students levels will surprise you. Some of my 5th & 6th graders are higher level than my middle schoolers.

Complete opposite of my experience.  Been doing elementary this year.  I must use the book and have much less freedom than what I had in Middle School.  I plan an extra 5 to 10 minute activity that I sometimes get to do.  But not always.  I had much more freedom in Middle School and rarely opened the book there.  I did make my lessons and power points based on the book using expressions, but could do what I wanted mostly.  Although the teachers are nice and many are younger than middle and high in the cities anyhow, it does seem a more strict managed environment whereas middle and high are less strict with the kids and with some other things, though studying is much more important at those levels. 

But, the younger kids feel instant love towards you saying hello to you and high fiving you; though I guess the middle school kids sort of did too in a lesser way.  The younger kids are better behaved (except for grade 6) but there's a lot more emphasis on repetition and practice.  Can be kind of monotonous.  Each has their pros and cons I guess. 

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Re: Moving from Middle/High to Elementary- sort of
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2016, 10:43:33 PM »
I should say I worked a lot harder in middle school with longer classes and planning much more material for my classes.  But I also enjoyed the higher level of communication and such.  Neither is terrible once you get use to it after 6 months or so. 

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Re: Moving from Middle/High to Elementary- sort of
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2016, 10:40:06 AM »
I should say I worked a lot harder in middle school with longer classes and planning much more material for my classes.  But I also enjoyed the higher level of communication and such.  Neither is terrible once you get use to it after 6 months or so. 

Yeah, at my schools now I have freedom to do what I want. I figured that with elementary, I'll probably be by the book. Guess we will find out in a month!

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Re: Moving from Middle/High to Elementary- sort of
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2016, 04:24:41 PM »
Yeah, at my schools now I have freedom to do what I want. I figured that with elementary, I'll probably be by the book. Guess we will find out in a month!

From my experience and what I heard, elementary almost always wants to follow the book. Depending on your school, you might be able to blow through the assigned section in 5-10 min and then do whatever you want after. But like other people mentioned it depends on your ct. If you're not there all week, you might be just assisting whatever the ct plans. If there is no Korean English teacher, you might want to stick closer to the book. Like mentioned above, most elementary students don't understand as much English and the homeroom teachers usually don't stick around (even though they are suppose to stay and help translate). Also some of the homeroom teachers are so low-level at English that they can't really translate even if they stay. Or at least this is my experience working in a rural town.

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Re: Moving from Middle/High to Elementary- sort of
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2016, 01:45:48 PM »
Get over it Dhazaras! :P

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Re: Moving from Middle/High to Elementary- sort of
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2016, 02:01:55 PM »
I teach elementary in a rural area and I am given literally all the free rein. So I can't agree with those who said elementary is all by the book. I only teach one lesson out of the textbook, and that's probably only because I was too overwhelmed in the beginning to plan my lessons, so I fell into using the book with my 5th grade for one hour a week. My principal wants me to be playing sports with the kids mostly, and as long as I plan something my teachers LITERALLY don't care what it is. It was really really hard to be turned loose like that with zero experience, but like other people said, I adjusted and now I enjoy the freedom to plan curriculum based on my interests.

I can't really have conversations with my kids, but the longer I'm here the more attached I get to their little selves. And if you get a chance to teach Kindergarten at all...well that's purely magical.

 

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