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  • stoat
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    • March 05, 2019, 06:36:13 pm
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Re: Nirvana's 20 greatest songs
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2019, 12:10:40 pm »
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And there seems to be a lot of bitterness that this homeless looking kid who "who couldn't even sweep pick" ended up killing off some of their favourite bands from the 80s.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'killing off some of their favourite bands from the 80s'. Do you mean that Nirvana cornered so much of the market other bands were forced out of business? Or when previous bands heard how awesome Nirvana were, they just decided to give up?  I think the 'nothing could be the same again' after this or that band came along' narrative is a bit exaggerated.


Re: Nirvana's 20 greatest songs
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2019, 12:44:30 pm »
The vast majority of the acts you named are broadly "rock" acts that were big in the 70s and 80s, with a few white bread musicals and operas thrown in for "culture". And Yanni. Not exactly my go to person for an opinion on the merits of music made post 1989.
? Am I missing something?

Nirvana's alright. Somewhat overrated, but to completely dismiss them? Silly.


  • zola
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    • September 30, 2012, 06:56:11 am
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Re: Nirvana's 20 greatest songs
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2019, 12:50:49 pm »
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And there seems to be a lot of bitterness that this homeless looking kid who "who couldn't even sweep pick" ended up killing off some of their favourite bands from the 80s.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'killing off some of their favourite bands from the 80s'. Do you mean that Nirvana cornered so much of the market other bands were forced out of business? Or when previous bands heard how awesome Nirvana were, they just decided to give up?  I think the 'nothing could be the same again' after this or that band came along' narrative is a bit exaggerated.
I mean when Nirvana et al's time came, a lot of bands looked and sounded ridiculous in comparison and so their popularity seemingly just dried up. More bands still, completely changed their sound and image to match the times.

Name one mainstream rock band from the 80s that cruised through the 90s unaffected?
Most hair bands did literally die off, those on the lower tier that kept going were playing half full clubs. Bigger ones like Motley Crue or Poison lost about 80% of their audience until their star came back around as nostalgia acts in the 2000s. In the case of Motley Crue they got rid of their singer and tried to go grunge themselves.

Metallica has always been it's own thing, but they completely changed their image up and released the loads. Megadeth made progressively went towards a grunge lite sound and as much as Mustaine tries to blame that on Marty Friedman, the 90s were lean times.

Guns n roses fizzled. That may have happened due to axl regardless, but the fact remains.

ACDC is the only popular main stream band i can think of that moved through the pre grunge 80s to post grunge 90s without either radically changing their sound or style, or losing a massive chunk of their audience. And that was always their schtick anyways.

It wasn't so much that Nirvana or Alice in Chains or whatever had come with this world shattering music that changed the perception of sound for everyone. It was more that they were on the crest of a wave of zeitgeist change at that time.
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  • zola
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Re: Nirvana's 20 greatest songs
« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2019, 12:52:20 pm »
The vast majority of the acts you named are broadly "rock" acts that were big in the 70s and 80s, with a few white bread musicals and operas thrown in for "culture". And Yanni. Not exactly my go to person for an opinion on the merits of music made post 1989.
? Am I missing something?

Nirvana's alright. Somewhat overrated, but to completely dismiss them? Silly.
He posted a list of all the shows he's been to in another thread. A bunch of 70s rock and things like Cats and Phantom of the Opera and Don Giovanni.
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  • stoat
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    • March 05, 2019, 06:36:13 pm
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Re: Nirvana's 20 greatest songs
« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2019, 01:34:55 pm »
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Name one mainstream rock band from the 80s that cruised through the 90s unaffected?

Yeah you might be right. I was never into those American hair bands anyway. I liked  house music at the end of the 80s then Brit Pop came along, so Grunge as a movement passed me by.   


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Re: Nirvana's 20 greatest songs
« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2019, 07:07:54 pm »
Nirvana has no great songs, they don't even have a very good song. The music world lost nothing when that waste product took the short road home. Truly a profoundly overrated band. In my opinion they were clearly the least talented of the entire - mostly worthless - Seattle grunge movement.

Born 20 years too late I see?  :P

Look at the bands I've seen, man. What have you seen? Big Bang? Black Pink? EXO?

hahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha
You saw them, but did you hear them?

Of course I heard them. I still listen to most. I forgot to add Stompin' Tom Connors, Neil Diamond and Neil Young, Jethro Tull and The Rolling Stones to the list. There will be others that pop into my head I'm sure.

Admittedly, seeing The Stones was a total fluke. They're another band I think are untalented over-rated very average musicians and I wouldn't pay to see them play in my backyard. (I'd probably call in a noise complaint LOL) But, my friend had a huge fight with his girlfriend and she buggered off and he offered to sell me her ticket. I said no. They were basically on their way to the concert at the time. I refused to pay for the ticket and he didn't want to go alone so he gave it to me and we went together. I did bring the smokables, however.

I've never worked in an office.

Look at the list of acts I've seen live and ask yourself if LIC really has musical tunnel vision? I could have seen Nirvana, I didn't go because I thought they were an over-rated garage band.

I think some of you are jealous :-)

I've never seen Led Zeppelin or Bad Company and that is regrettable.

FYI, U.K. I thought sucked despite having a seriously talented group of musicians. 

Now off you go, back to listen to Girl's Generation.
I've seen all those bands except for stompin' tom and LZ, who I never got into, and IMO Nirvana was the real deal.


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  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • February 15, 2019, 04:39:00 pm
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Re: Nirvana's 20 greatest songs
« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2019, 09:05:05 pm »
Oh yeah...Van Morrison


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Re: Nirvana's 20 greatest songs
« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2022, 07:00:52 pm »
As far as I'm concerned, any list that doesn't have Negative Creep is incomplete.
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Re: Nirvana's 20 greatest songs
« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2022, 02:06:28 pm »
As far as I'm concerned, any list that doesn't have Negative Creep is incomplete.

Billy Oversharington, don't you think it's better to make a new thread rather than dredge up one that's 3 years old?  :rolleyes:


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Re: Nirvana's 20 greatest songs
« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2022, 11:28:28 pm »
Nope  :smiley:
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