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Re: Is it insane to leave Korea right now?
« Reply #100 on: November 17, 2020, 02:59:53 pm »
BUT I DON'T LIKE LENTILS AND MCDONALD'S TASTES GOOD.
Pretty much this. If Lentils tasted good and people wanted them, you'd have lentil bowls everywhere on the value menu.
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Re: Is it insane to leave Korea right now?
« Reply #101 on: November 17, 2020, 05:22:03 pm »
BUT I DON'T LIKE LENTILS AND MCDONALD'S TASTES GOOD.
the word lentils always reminds me of Neil from The Young Ones


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Re: Is it insane to leave Korea right now?
« Reply #102 on: November 18, 2020, 01:49:32 pm »
Back on point. It may not exactly be insane to leave a decently secure job right now but it is definitely worth seriously considering staying at one.


Re: Is it insane to leave Korea right now?
« Reply #103 on: November 18, 2020, 08:58:01 pm »
Back on point. It may not exactly be insane to leave a decently secure job right now but it is definitely worth seriously considering staying at one.

I am not gainfully employed at the moment. A secure job awaits me in America after a final half semester of nursing school. But yeah, sounds like a decently secure kindy job paying 2.1mil awaits me here should I ever change my mind! It would be quite a comedown from what I had been making though...


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Re: Is it insane to leave Korea right now?
« Reply #104 on: November 18, 2020, 11:21:22 pm »
The coronovirus infection rate elsewhere compared to here is huge.

The resilience of demand for English language teachers here is clear.

The benefits of free rent, low taxes, limited hours of work (even if you invest in prep time) and ability to contribute to your pension back home (agreements between SK and several Western nations).... are all financial...

... yet... also...

Isn't rockin' bossin' a classroom the cat's meow?

Even on my sickest day of work in 18+ years here, there were moments of glee, stillness, awesomeness, pain-free performance. Oh yeah.

I feel often like an actor on a live stage yet equipped usually with the tools to change the world, one audience at a time.

I think that's insight into my psyche. I had a major role in my high school play as a 1st year - mere 10th-grade student - Reverend Parris in Arthur Miller's The Crucible. I opened the play by talking while weeping. I LOVED every night of performance. After that year, in Grade 11, we did a musical and i said f*** that and played high school football instead. In Grade 12 I played a funny character in The Teahouse of the August Moon. I thought acting awesome but thought a more REAL platform was in my future (scientist? Er,... no. Why? Math, too hard/unengaging. Newspaper reporting? Hell ya, years of greatness, multiple awards, newspaper and radio news, I rocked the industry in Western Canada until at age 32 I thought i'd take a one - year break to travel... to Asia... South Korea... surprisingly never felt as satisfied. Did NOT look back. Being a big fish in the smallest pond of a classroom was enough for me to sleep well at night!
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Re: Is it insane to leave Korea right now?
« Reply #105 on: November 19, 2020, 07:00:26 am »
I feel often like an actor on a live stage yet equipped usually with the tools to change the world, one audience at a time.
+1
That's a nice quote!


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Re: Is it insane to leave Korea right now?
« Reply #106 on: November 19, 2020, 07:14:16 am »
Thank you.

I bolded it because i felt it came straight from the heart.

It's always great to be heard and appreciated (another motivation of us career teaching junkies).


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Re: Is it insane to leave Korea right now?
« Reply #107 on: November 19, 2020, 07:39:10 am »
i much preferred

Isn't rockin' bossin' a classroom the cat's meow?
more gg more skill


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Re: Is it insane to leave Korea right now?
« Reply #108 on: November 19, 2020, 08:26:12 am »
So did i, tylerthegloob, but i knew that was my ego talking, so didn't highlight it.

Nothing beats teaching a class of attentive, dialed-in students. Yeah, it may happen only half the time, but it jacks you up!

I have taught in hagwons (1-12 students per class) for... 17 years and 10 months.

I have taught in public school (30+ students in the library) for 2 months then a hard OUT! (Don't waste my time bro'! I ain't there to merely fill a spot and be a clown).

Now, some teachers might be able to connect wirh and help grow the skills of students in a 25+ attended class. It ain't my skillset.


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Re: Is it insane to leave Korea right now?
« Reply #109 on: November 19, 2020, 08:46:54 am »
half the time? lucky guy.

it's harder with big classes for sure. i think i sometimes fall into the trap of catering to the most motivated students though. i briefly taught adults back home and it was a different ballgame in terms of motivation and learning. here, if i can just motivate a few students who otherwise wouldn't have engaged with the class, i feel good.
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Re: Is it insane to leave Korea right now?
« Reply #110 on: November 19, 2020, 09:03:18 am »
I am not gainfully employed at the moment. A secure job awaits me in America after a final half semester of nursing school. But yeah, sounds like a decently secure kindy job paying 2.1mil awaits me here should I ever change my mind! It would be quite a comedown from what I had been making though...

Adjectives do not exist to describe my profound respect for nurses.

When I was 17 I woke up one morning in mid-May with a fever. My mom kept me home for the day and then the next one. My fever spiked and stayed at 103F. It wouldn't come down despite my mom following the doctor's orders.

The doc said to bring me in to the hospital. They couldn't bring my fever down and an overnight stay turned into 6 weeks. It took them a week to found out what I had and by then I was on my way to dying. I had bacterial endocarditis. Rare at the best of times and virtually unheard of in 17 year old's who go to bed feeling great.

I was the guy that doctors took their residents to on rounds and after describing symptoms asked them for a diagnosis. No one ever got it right.

I was in a small hospital in Quebec City, 200 beds. There were 120 or so senior citizens, about 12 new babies and me. The nurses spoiled me rotten. Of course I missed my high school graduation and prom. I had tubes hanging out of me. Massive dose of constant penicillin. The nurses baked a cake for me and threw me a grad party. I got special meals and juices, I liked grapefruit juice and there was always a jug beside my bed.

I saw the doctor twice a week unless I was on freakshow parade :-)

Mad mad mad respect for nurses, man. Three cheers for you Don Hobak. You are a hero.

They let me out the end of June and I spent July and August eating penicillin like smarties and sitting on my porch watching my friends play. I couldn't do any activity that would raise my heartbeat above resting. At the lowest point I weighed 72 pounds. 5' 10"...72 lbs  it was not a pretty sight.

I'm alive and I believe the nurses were a bigger help to that than the doctors. 


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Re: Is it insane to leave Korea right now?
« Reply #111 on: November 19, 2020, 09:45:26 am »
Overworked, underpaid and absolutely crusial to the functioning of any medical system.
I have an uncle that was a nurse up until he retired.
He's now lead vocals and guitars (and saxaphonist) for a cover band called the LSDoors. Good stuff!


Re: Is it insane to leave Korea right now?
« Reply #112 on: November 19, 2020, 09:46:55 am »
The expectations were high enough; now I gotta learn to bake?!  :huh:

That sounds like a truly harrowing experience. I’m glad you got the care you did; couldn’t have been easy for a 17 year old to go through all that. Unfortunately that sounds like a vignette from another era. Nursing has changed a lot since then, I’m afraid.


Re: Is it insane to leave Korea right now?
« Reply #113 on: December 13, 2020, 09:08:59 pm »
The vaccines coming out adds a whole new twist to this decision. As a nursing student in America a vaccination will likely be available to me very early, if not required of me. My wife going over on a visa however, she’d be near the back of the line I imagine. Not that she has any known conditions that make her susceptible to the more severe symptoms people are coming down with, but the worry I guess is that she would not be able to receive proper medical care if she did come down with the virus and require hospitalization because hospitals are fast approaching capacity in many areas. Korea was not planning to start their vaccination effort until sometime in March. Although this current surge might change the government’s calculus, I doubt it would be available to her before her visa would expire. And despite the surge, I don’t see this getting anywhere near American infection levels.


Re: Is it insane to leave Korea right now?
« Reply #114 on: February 20, 2021, 11:28:37 pm »
With the exception of China where you don’t even need to wear a mask, Korea is probably the best place on Earth to ride the chaos out.

America? Cmon, planes are literally falling out of the sky, whole states going dark, 500K corpses. Stay away, far away.


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Re: Is it insane to leave Korea right now?
« Reply #115 on: February 21, 2021, 08:23:21 am »
With the exception of China where you don’t even need to wear a mask, Korea is probably the best place on Earth to ride the chaos out.[/b]

KimchiN, in your posts on other threads you accuse us of being ignorant about all things Korean and East Asian, when in fact you are the ignorant one as displayed by your highlighted comment.

You are wrong on both counts to say the least.

1. In China masks are still required, my Chinese friends that I am in contact with daily tell me you are WRONG. They still have to wear masks.

2. Korea being probably the best place to ride out the chaos.

Stats for you as of this morning:
             
             Total cases.     new cases.    deaths.   new deaths    recovered.      active cases.    cases/million.     deaths/million.     population

Korea:  86,574.               446.              1,553.            3.                   77, 083.          7,938.               1,688.                        30.                       51 million

Taiwan.    942.                   1.                    9.                0.                       893.               40.                     40.                          0,4.                      24 million

Now given that Korea's population is about 2x that of Taiwan, even if we double  the Taiwanese numbers, it is still not close.

Korea's ranking 85/221 of listed areas, that doesn't make it one of the best places to ride it out.
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Re: Is it insane to leave Korea right now?
« Reply #116 on: February 21, 2021, 09:47:14 am »
With the exception of China where you don’t even need to wear a mask

If you're going to believe that then you probably believe that absolutely nothing happened on June 4th 1989.


Re: Is it insane to leave Korea right now?
« Reply #117 on: February 21, 2021, 06:14:27 pm »
With the exception of China where you don’t even need to wear a mask, Korea is probably the best place on Earth to ride the chaos out.[/b]

You are wrong on both counts to say the least.

Shrug, I called the socioeconomic collapse of America 15yrs ago, and jumped ship. Here I am with essentially 0% probability of getting the virus, while 497,648 people back there are dead. My forecasts and risk management were fine.

You can make your own life decisions. No requirement to troll my posts and argue. I’m not your dad and you don’t need my permission if you want to move to China.


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Re: Is it insane to leave Korea right now?
« Reply #118 on: February 22, 2021, 05:21:52 am »
No requirement to troll my posts and argue.

Oh the irony.
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Re: Is it insane to leave Korea right now?
« Reply #119 on: March 10, 2021, 01:49:51 pm »
Not sure if I replied already.  I'd say stay until 2022 or if you are or have been here long term, stay a bit longer until 2023, if you are planning on making the exit.  Covid should be done by then and we should be able to see what market conditions there are for jobs back home or teaching in other countries.