http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20210201000668

BTS has been named one of the 10 best bands ever by US magazine Esquire.

The other bands honored by the magazine -- the Supremes, the Beatles, Fleetwood Mac, Queen, Sly and the Family Stone, the Beach Boys, ABBA, the Temptations and Destiny’s Child -- were popular at different times from the 1960s through the 2000s.

Don't worry. It is only Esquires opinion. It means very little.

Is it true that if you buy a certain number of K pop CDs from certain groups, you qualify to meet them in person and a really high number means you can shake their hand/kiss them/grope them up? My wife said ajoshis are known to buy multiple albums by girl groups for this purpose.

As for the list, irrelevant unless it's based on a massive poll, a large panel of music experts or stats. 

Feminized beta-males are considered one of the 10 best bands after a magazine said so?

Really?

:/

I just barfed a little in my mouth.

Feminized beta-males are considered one of the 10 best bands after a magazine said so?

Really?

:/

Thankfully rock never had such things as long hair, makeup, flamboyant outfits, and mincing on stage.

Of course they did, but in the day, did anyone ever think Rob Halford was gay? Plant? Page? Blackmore? Jagger (who spent as much time in bed with Bowie as Bowie did with his wife)

How about the Backstreet Boys? They all did time in the sack with Uncle Lou, but did everyone (except rockers) think they were gay?

The thing is, K boys in boy bands really look and act gay for the most part. Of course, it's no great secret that there are a lot of Uncle Kim's mincing around behind the stage.

In what way? I don't pay any attention to them

Of course they did, but in the day, did anyone ever think Rob Halford was gay? Plant? Page? Blackmore? Jagger (who spent as much time in bed with Bowie as Bowie did with his wife)

Every dad of every teenager during that time thought they were gay.

Seriously, you think dads and old men back then were rocking out? No. They were calling those guys a bunch of long-haired *****.

Face it dude, the same shit that you're saying about BTS, millions of dads and WWII vets said about your rock bands. It's just how things go. Age gracefully and accept the passing of the torch.

BTS have achieved enormous things for Korean music and even gotten US mainstream radio play with a couple of their latest songs. They frequently appear on US talk shows and do interviews/sketches with late night hosts. They are a household name - most people have probably heard their single "Dynamite" even if they don't know BTS sings it because it was a huge radio hit last year.

As people, they are kind, genuine, charitable, humble, and unproblematic artists. They also work incredibly hard and despite a lengthy career for a K-pop group have never let up on the amount of effort, time, and devotion to their albums/concerts/choreo.

Whether their music is your style or not, I feel all of these things make them totally deserving of recognition.

Yeah, but Top 10?

i've pushed back on a lot of the Kpop hate on this site, so I'm definitely not one to just dismiss them and sneer, simply because they aren't my thing.

But Top-10? I mean you're talking the entire history of modern music going back to the early days of ragtime. That's close to 120 years of music and encompasses a massive number of genres of music. We're talking bands in there that have made 10+ songs people can hum. We're talking about bands that literally created new genres of music.

If BTS maintains their trajectory and influence, then maybe this claim can be made 20 years from now.  The thing about declaring something timeless is you have to wait some time.

Every dad of every teenager during that time thought they were gay.

Seriously, you think dads and old men back then were rocking out? No. They were calling those guys a bunch of long-haired *****.

Face it dude, the same shit that you're saying about BTS, millions of dads and WWII vets said about your rock bands. It's just how things go. Age gracefully and accept the passing of the torch.

You couldn't be more wrong. I know no fathers who said The Beatles were gay, or Led Zep et al. I know many fathers who thought they were a bunch of long-haired dope smoking weirdos. But as a child of the 60's and 70's, I have no memories of gay being brought up.

Are you Dan Boyd by any chance? He's an acquaintance who will argue with everyone about anything anytime too.

Quite a bit of homophobia and racism for a thread putatively about music groups.  Eh, Kyndo?

I've read nothing homophobic or racist here. Two terms which have been so overused that they have become synonymous with "You don't agree with me so you are a _______ ."