Islam isn't America either, as you and Tyler were trying to have us believe. There are lots of versions of it in lots of different countries

But I went to high school in Canada with some Muslim women and they weren't beheaded for smoking marijuana behind the school!!!!!

Muslim women are free (in my opinion)

Islam isn't America either, as you and Tyler were trying to have us believe. There are lots of versions of it in lots of different countries

Right and those most relevant to us are the people who we know back home and in Korea or SE Asia. We also have to determine to what extent there is free will in countries such as Iran or Saudi Arabia. While I think private support for less restrictive measures would exist among many women in those countries, I also think many would support the current standards.

What I do know is that many of the opinions on this seem to be taken up by people who presume to speak for those who wear niqab or the burqa, rather than an actual listening and response to their opinion. I understand that in many cases this is with the best of intentions, especially other women in western countries who want to advocate for equality and freedom. At the same time there also seems to be a subset of men who want to do little more than leer at women and are upset that some practice dares to have some modesty and covering of skin and form.

At the same time there also seems to be a subset of men who want to do little more than leer at women and are upset that some practice dares to have some modesty and covering of skin and form.

Sounds like projection to me. I can honestly say I've never looked at a woman in a burqua and thought 'I'd like to see her naked.' Or even less modestly clothed. Don't know what other people think.

Islam isn't America either, as you and Tyler were trying to have us believe. There are lots of versions of it in lots of different countries

Incorrect, big time!

See, this is where and why wording matters A LOT! There is only one Islam because there is one Qur'an. No Muslim on Earth will tell you that, in this reality, there exists a
higher authority than the Qur'an.

The teachings within the Qur'an and hadiths are not things you can learn overnight, they typically take years in a Madrasa (I attended one for years after school, like a hagwon as do most Muslim kids where I'm from since we're generally from middle-class families).
Plenty of Muslims don't have the opportunities/motivation and/or do not invest the time and effort required to learn all these teachings. So, the gaps in their Islamic knowledge get filled with cultural practices and I'll explain exactly how this happens.

Pakistan has a literacy rate of 60%, as of 2021.

This means that of the 96.47% of the population that identifies as Muslim, around 36.47% of them are unable to read the Qur'an. 36.47% of Muslims in Pakistan rely on hearsay and cultural practices
for their understanding of their faith. This isn't including the lazy or busy Pakistanis who can read and study the Qur'an who simply choose not to.

So, you have plenty of Muslims all around the world who simply do not know how to follow their Faith and rely on strong cultural influences. This is why there's oftentimes a discrepancy between
how many Muslims act.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1628652

I'm not really sure what a sock account or a stoat is in this context. I'm quite new to this.

He can be lured out of his cave with discussions of Islam, feminism or the plight of black people in the US.

I'm not really sure what a sock account or a stoat is in this context. I'm quite new to this.

I think he also went by the name of Yoda. An English chap as I recall.

So the silence of the mods speaks volumes. Clearly there is no ban on religious discussion, despite it being in the official Terms of Service. The Airing of Grievances is a go! First up: Calvinism. A bad sect of medieval Christianity, or the worst sect of medieval Christianity? You decide!