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Any psychology majors out there?
« on: July 11, 2012, 09:25:10 AM »
I would like to ask about dreams, more specifically night terrors. I regularly have them, at least once a week, this past week I have woken up screaming in terror twice, including last night. It's something I have lived with all of my life. It also scares the hell out of my wife!

I hope someone here can give me some reasons, explanations, advice, reading material to buy, anything. I have a rather long story about a series of dreams I had 14 years ago. It's extremely bizarre and got to the point where I was wondering if I was going insane. I was afraid to go to sleep, and believe me, that is a terrible position to be in.

Anybody? I'm reaching out to you.
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Re: Any psychology majors out there?
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2012, 09:49:40 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2012, 09:50:53 AM »
i recommend leaving this country. seriously.
this country has been giving you immense amount of stress :)

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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2012, 10:00:34 AM »
i recommend leaving this country. seriously.
this country has been giving you immense amount of stress :)

This country can indeed be stressful at times, but fortunately, I may very well be in one of the least stressful jobs and areas around! Thank Buddha for that!
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2012, 10:03:27 AM »
as far as i can remember dreams arent/werent an exact science as of yet. (the last reading i did was about 7 years ago) All I can say is that it may have to do elevated levels of stress in your life, or thoughts about your past episodes causing anxiety, and thus stress.

was the re-occurrence of your night terrors random or were u talking/thinking about them before the started again? Maybe there's something in your life that has triggered those memories - of having night terrors or the actual thing(s) in your dream that wakes you up. It might also have to do with how tired you are when you go to sleep.

I only minored in psych so maybe im not the best person to give advice, but I thought i'd try.

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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2012, 10:21:42 AM »
http://www.harpo.ca/counsel.html
Yvonne is a nice guy/counselor and seems to have a broad knowledge base, you could try Skype counseling with him. That would be the first step I'd take, then you could figure out if that's something you want to continue doing (meeting with him) or move on to something else.
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2012, 10:28:58 AM »
Good luck, Cereal. Get the help if you need it - just a small tip, though, I think you're looking for a psychiatrist rather than a psychologist.

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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2012, 10:56:07 AM »
Thanks, I wrote an email to one of the folks there. I wonder what will happen?
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2012, 02:16:12 PM »
^this is hilarious. I love it when somebody gets on here without knowing the background experience of others and says something like this.

Apple, you and Jimmy should be BFF's, wtf?

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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2012, 02:30:05 PM »
you guys.. this is something he had for his entire life.

if that's the case and it is persistent, it's probably not related to dream psychology at all, which when I studied similar subjects, were never considered to be a science by my psych teachers.

the problem is probably deeply rooted and perhaps something triggered it.

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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2012, 11:25:41 PM »
I'm a psychology major, but no expert. However, I find the following website very interesting: http://www.dreammoods.com/dreamdictionary/ 
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2012, 11:49:18 PM »
Personally, I'm not a fan of dream psychology. It strikes me that dreams are so difficult to categorise and subjective, even to the analyser, that analysis is unreliable.

However, have you ever heard of lucid dreaming? It essentially involves training yourself to realise that you're dreaming. Once you realise you're dreaming, your conscious mind will overcome your subconscious and you can assume control of your own dreams. One use of this is to confront your fears.

Some people will obviously make a spiritual thing of it. If it makes them happy, fair enough. I see it as an exercise in mental discipline and having had 3 lucid dreams now (and they're truly amazing) it's something that I intend to explore further when I leave Korea and eventually get my sleeping patterns in order.

Here's a (popular) book that I read on the subject. http://www.amazon.com/Exploring-World-Dreaming-Stephen-LaBerge/dp/034537410X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1342021646&sr=8-1&keywords=lucid+dreaming



PS lol @ Apple!

Cereal has posted quite a few things about his life so some of us can relate his posts back to that. Don't be so hasty to jump to conclusions.
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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2012, 08:47:37 AM »
Personally, I'm not a fan of dream psychology. It strikes me that dreams are so difficult to categorise and subjective, even to the analyser, that analysis is unreliable.

However, have you ever heard of lucid dreaming? It essentially involves training yourself to realise that you're dreaming. Once you realise you're dreaming, your conscious mind will overcome your subconscious and you can assume control of your own dreams. One use of this is to confront your fears.

Some people will obviously make a spiritual thing of it. If it makes them happy, fair enough. I see it as an exercise in mental discipline and having had 3 lucid dreams now (and they're truly amazing) it's something that I intend to explore further when I leave Korea and eventually get my sleeping patterns in order.

Here's a (popular) book that I read on the subject. http://www.amazon.com/Exploring-World-Dreaming-Stephen-LaBerge/dp/034537410X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1342021646&sr=8-1&keywords=lucid+dreaming



PS lol @ Apple!

Cereal has posted quite a few things about his life so some of us can relate his posts back to that. Don't be so hasty to jump to conclusions.

Hey flasyb, this lucid dreaming thing sounds cool. I will check that book out, hopefully I can order it online or find it online in Kindle format.

It reminded me of a dream I had many years ago, which I had forgotten about but is now crystal clear in my mind.

I was sitting on a couch with my back on the armrest, there was a man sitting with his back on the other armrest facing me. The couch was the only piece of furniture in a large completely white room. I knew the man on the other side of the couch was a demon, but he didn't know I knew. I could see his skin moving and bulging out in places.

He was asking me many questions, trying to trip me up so he could catch me in a conflicting statement. He was very adept at this and I was finding it more and more difficult to stay ahead of him. I knew that as soon as I screwed up through his trickery, he would attack and kill me.

The situation was becoming extremely tense, and very scary and it was only a matter of time until he managed to twist my words around to make it appear as if I was being untruthful. I was growing more terrified by the second.

Then, a door I had not noticed, due to everything being glowing white, opened on the far wall. I walked in! I walked up to me and took me by the hand and said to myself, "Let's go Cereal, this is getting way to scary." Then myself and I walked out of the room hand in hand. As we passed over the threshold and closed the door behind us, I woke up.

I remember sitting up in bed thinking, "Wow! I just saved myself from a serious nightmare!"

Bizarre.
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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2012, 09:13:32 AM »
That is an interesting dream. It sort of reminds me of a module I did for my Literature degree called "the Novella and the Uncanny". There was a lot of "doppleganger" stuff in that.

You know, if you were lucid during the dream, you could have just assumed total control and launched fireballs from your hands at the demon and obliterated it.

People remember dreams but being entirely lucid is a different experience entirely.
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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2018, 04:13:38 PM »
Thanks for sharing, personally i do think dream psychology is interesting ( like i cant really look away) I also do really like the spiritual meaning of dreams ( like the futuristic meaning if that makes sense), Btw can anyone show me how to update my avatar here? thanx! :P
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« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2018, 08:26:44 AM »
Hey there, psych degree here.
The general consensus is that the dreams themselves don't mean anything. Your brain fires randomly during certain stages of sleep as a way to consolidate your waking experience (which is why you might recognize some of the characters and events in your dreams as things you have encountered recently). But the dreams themselves are meaningless in regards to any truths about yourself (Except in the case of PTSD, which is often associated with flashback dreams).

Anyway that's a long preamble to my main point which is that night terrors are actually a medical sleep condition like sleep apnea or sleep walking. It's considered a meaningless dysfunction of sleep that can be treated. The first line of defense is to identify if anything in your sleeping conditions is associated with greater incidence of night terrors. I myself have occasional sleep paralysis and over time I discovered that it is most likely to occur when I am overheated as I sleep. Sleep dysfunction is usually associated with your physical environment (snoring, apnea, being too hot or too cold, etc) rather than your mental state. Although increased stress can sometimes be a factor.

 I'm not a sleep specialist, but I would recommend keeping a journal of the conditions surrounding your episodes of night terrors. If you can identify a common trigger between events, then work on eliminating that trigger. If you can't identify an obious environmental trigger, then you should probably make an appointment for a sleep study with a medical sleep specialist. A psychatrist probably can't help you with this issue.

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« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2018, 12:47:37 PM »
Hey there, psych degree here.
The general consensus is that the dreams themselves don't mean anything. Your brain fires randomly during certain stages of sleep as a way to consolidate your waking experience (which is why you might recognize some of the characters and events in your dreams as things you have encountered recently). But the dreams themselves are meaningless in regards to any truths about yourself (Except in the case of PTSD, which is often associated with flashback dreams).

Anyway that's a long preamble to my main point which is that night terrors are actually a medical sleep condition like sleep apnea or sleep walking. It's considered a meaningless dysfunction of sleep that can be treated. The first line of defense is to identify if anything in your sleeping conditions is associated with greater incidence of night terrors. I myself have occasional sleep paralysis and over time I discovered that it is most likely to occur when I am overheated as I sleep. Sleep dysfunction is usually associated with your physical environment (snoring, apnea, being too hot or too cold, etc) rather than your mental state. Although increased stress can sometimes be a factor.

 I'm not a sleep specialist, but I would recommend keeping a journal of the conditions surrounding your episodes of night terrors. If you can identify a common trigger between events, then work on eliminating that trigger. If you can't identify an obious environmental trigger, then you should probably make an appointment for a sleep study with a medical sleep specialist. A psychatrist probably can't help you with this issue.

Also a psych graduate and agree 100% with minab91. Its all a matter of physical (and some emotional) triggers.
As well as night terrors being a medical condition just like insomnia. Night terrors occur in non-REM sleep (as you probably already googled OP out of curiosity) which means you aren't actually in "real" sleep. Nightmares do not occur in deep REM sleep (from the literature I know). Therefore, you're not sleeping well in general.

Healthcare is crazy cheap here (imo) and I bet you could easily request for a sleep study to be done ^ Overnight in the hospital they'll monitor your brain waves, body movements, heart rate, breathing patterns, etc. Sleep apnea is usually diagnosed this way.

Take care OP and I hope you can get some peace at night real soon.

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« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2018, 01:40:13 PM »
Hey there, psych degree here.
The general consensus is that the dreams themselves don't mean anything. Your brain fires randomly during certain stages of sleep as a way to consolidate your waking experience (which is why you might recognize some of the characters and events in your dreams as things you have encountered recently). But the dreams themselves are meaningless in regards to any truths about yourself (Except in the case of PTSD, which is often associated with flashback dreams).

Anyway that's a long preamble to my main point which is that night terrors are actually a medical sleep condition like sleep apnea or sleep walking. It's considered a meaningless dysfunction of sleep that can be treated. The first line of defense is to identify if anything in your sleeping conditions is associated with greater incidence of night terrors. I myself have occasional sleep paralysis and over time I discovered that it is most likely to occur when I am overheated as I sleep. Sleep dysfunction is usually associated with your physical environment (snoring, apnea, being too hot or too cold, etc) rather than your mental state. Although increased stress can sometimes be a factor.

 I'm not a sleep specialist, but I would recommend keeping a journal of the conditions surrounding your episodes of night terrors. If you can identify a common trigger between events, then work on eliminating that trigger. If you can't identify an obious environmental trigger, then you should probably make an appointment for a sleep study with a medical sleep specialist. A psychatrist probably can't help you with this issue.

Also a psych graduate and agree 100% with minab91. Its all a matter of physical (and some emotional) triggers.
As well as night terrors being a medical condition just like insomnia. Night terrors occur in non-REM sleep (as you probably already googled OP out of curiosity) which means you aren't actually in "real" sleep. Nightmares do not occur in deep REM sleep (from the literature I know). Therefore, you're not sleeping well in general.

Healthcare is crazy cheap here (imo) and I bet you could easily request for a sleep study to be done ^ Overnight in the hospital they'll monitor your brain waves, body movements, heart rate, breathing patterns, etc. Sleep apnea is usually diagnosed this way.

Take care OP and I hope you can get some peace at night real soon.


It depends on what psychology theory you adhere to. Different psychologists have different opinions on this, since it is difficult to obtain hard evidence. Carl Jung for example, did more dream research than any other. He believed dreams connect the conscious and unconscious mind. However, he mentions one must have the same type of dream repeatedly for it to have any sort of reliability when interpreting it.