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Offline Msylissy22

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Greetings!

I am posting on here to seek advice on any tips or tricks that have worked for middle school teachers that have 3rd grade classes that leave you thinking you just talked to yourself for 45 minutes.

My school is extremely low level and on top of the limited 2x a month I already see each class their 2 CT's are probably the worst at speaking English (meaning one of them has said a total of 5 whole grammatically incorrect English sentences to me in my $4+ months here) to the students.

My grade 1's and 2's have been doing well with my new format of listening to an English pop song and filling in the blanks/ watching videos and saying/writing down what they see/ playing a game, but when it comes to my grade 3's I leave class thinking "wow, I could have talked to a wall for 45 minutes and felt like it learned/spoke more English".. I also had set up a reward sticker system last semester and it just wasn't motivating enough.

I was doing the waygook book lessons last semester and they were bored, now I'm trying the more fun approach and it's not working as well. Do I just ignore it, do my thing and just enjoy the easiness of this job?

Any suggestions that have worked to get them engaged (at all) is much appreciated!!

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Re: Ideas to get low level, mixed 3rd graders to speak, write or do anything
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2013, 11:44:39 AM »
  Do you have a copy of the textbook with the CD Rom. Middle school students are a bit wild they need structure. It's quite obvious that they are low because all their other teachers gave up on them and let them watch Simpsons videos. Follow a PPP approach. Don't be afraid to use lots of choral repetition followed by pairwork. If they are unsure what pairwork is get your co-teacher to explain it to them. They can do it. They might just be playing Possum

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Re: Ideas to get low level, mixed 3rd graders to speak, write or do anything
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2013, 12:18:14 PM »
I would do games, games, games then sneak in some more educational stuff.

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Re: Ideas to get low level, mixed 3rd graders to speak, write or do anything
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2013, 12:29:04 PM »
 Try to get a stamp that you can use in their notebooks. Everytime a student performs well stamp their book. When they get lots of stamps it can count for a reward higher grade some kind of prize at the end of the year

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Re: Ideas to get low level, mixed 3rd graders to speak, write or do anything
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2013, 04:33:25 PM »
     I've only been here a couple of months but had the same situation.  I was told my students were low-level.  In my case, however, I have found low level means not involved. From Waygook,  I understand English, cases is not a wildly popular  class.  What has been working for me is coming up with activities where they have to talk, using vocabulary that they have learned from me or is being covered in their books (I prefer from me, because it is stuff they can use right away).   

     First, it started of with getting two kids to talk because the others were afraid. Once everyone saw that it was o.k. to speak, they have started opening up more.  I reward those who attempt. Try not to be too game  heavy. Games can be fun, but if you use them all the the time, kids aren't retaining, the are just regurgitating. Also, if you are gaming all the time, they don't take you seriously (I learned that very quickly).

I hope that helps.
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Re: Ideas to get low level, mixed 3rd graders to speak, write or do anything
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2013, 05:46:36 PM »
While I do agree that gaming all the time is usually bad... sometimes it's your last resort. It depends on how low level your kids are.

I had my classes last year split into A, B, C, and D. With A/B, I could teach the book and I'd just play a game every now and then.

With C/D, it was a totally different story. C classes were always half teaching, half game. Their attention spans were too low. If I taught all class, after 20 minutes they would all be asleep or throwing erasers at each other. (I wasn't allowed to discipline my students, and the coteachers didn't discipline either. We had a disciplining incident earlier in the year, teacher got fired... long story...)

With D level... one game would take the entire period. However, it was the only way that anyone would work. Sometimes its really just about survival. If the kids don't respect the co-teachers, they won't respect you, especially if there is no way to punish them. So, making english "fun" was the only way that would work. They wouldn't learn much, but they'd be more confident with the few words they do know.

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Re: Ideas to get low level, mixed 3rd graders to speak, write or do anything
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2013, 01:14:45 PM »
I have small white boards which I use all of the time. I use the attached game (borrowed from somewhere else on Waygook) for any and all topics. Just change the language to whatever your target is.

Each team of two students writes a question and an answer on their whiteboard (you could use paper) using one phrase from each column. I do the same on my own whiteboard, keeping mine a secret.

I read what I have on mine, and the teams score one point for each phrase that is the same as what I have. (A total of four possible points each time.) Then, click on each part of your phrase, it disappears, and repeat with fewer options. At the end of the first round find teams with the most points and reward. I use small candies, and they love it.

A variation is to change the game and say no points for the same answers as the teacher. (This makes it easy to score 3 or 4 points in the first round.)

Also, once they get the hang of it, I give a student my whiteboard, and have them take my place. This gets them speaking, and more excited to play against their friends.

This game works for so many levels, and topics. I've had a great class each time I've used it.

I hope it helps!

 

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