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Online gtrain83

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Are your role plays a complete cluster f**c?
« on: June 30, 2014, 01:23:27 PM »
I'm talking boeing 747 nose dives a maglev carrying nukes. Staight up Korean wedding style.  No one listening to the group role playing, talking, doodling, etc. Now the weddings and such make more sense.

Then the performances. Can't hear half of them b/c they don't talk about .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 db. Or they have no idea what the lines are cause we look at it for all of 5 mins then tell them to do it. Or just straight up screwing around.

Ridiculous.

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Re: Are your role plays a complete cluster f**c?
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2014, 01:36:14 PM »
Thus why I stopped bothering with role plays years ago. Anytime I try to split the kids in to groups to do any sort of independent work they **** around for 15 minutes and don't accomplish any of the work I've tried to assign.
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Re: Are your role plays a complete cluster f**c?
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2014, 02:15:56 PM »
My role plays all have narration, and I have the students who are not doing the role play read the narration so they have to pay attention.  Also I put it all in a powerpoint with nice backgrounds, character portraits, and word bubbles.  It's a bit of work, but worth it to get them speaking the sentences.

Although I would skip the role play altogether if the students are out of control.  Just listen to the story a couple of times and then move on to another activity.
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Re: Are your role plays a complete cluster f**c?
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2014, 03:05:21 PM »
hahaha, what grade? My 6th graders are like that -- it's impossible, so we quit doing that for them. We now have them fill in the blank or some other activity.

My 3rd graders are too wild as well, so we put them into pairs and have them memorize a scene at a time. If they memorize it, and show it to the teacher, we give them points.

My 5th graders are the only ones that do "real" role play. It's a bit of work but once they know the routine it goes better. Its like this -- listen to story, receive script, go over story and have students translate the lines, students then practice with their group, and finally they perform. They still get noisy at times, but the death glare usually shuts them up.
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Re: Are your role plays a complete cluster f**c?
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2014, 03:22:40 PM »
 If you go on the Finchpark site there are samples lessons showing information gaps and running dictations and  all kinds surveys. Most of these lessons would leave a seasoned K Teacher shell shocked.
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Re: Are your role plays a complete cluster f**c?
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2014, 05:17:08 PM »
They have been some of the most rewarding experiences; helping me to feel like I've actually taught my students something.
They've also done the exact opposite... "We did this for a couple weeks, but they seem to remember none of it?!".

In my book, freely made role plays based on the topic are the pinnacle of success and the best form of topic consolidation.
Can they effectively and fluently use what they've learned and apply it without minimal direction from the teacher?

If I have to spoon feed them to make their role plays, then I know I've fudged up somewhere.

Try to give them a whole lesson to develop and practice your role play. Make sure they stay on track, and you can be amazed at the results... it's usually amazing in a good way or a bad way. But highly worth it!

If you have time, something like I've attached can really get the students interested and ready to create their own role play.
*props to the original creator. I modified the language a little to match my subject somewhat and added a fun game at the end of the demo script.

** It's for Elementary by the way, but the same principles apply at all levels right?
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Re: Are your role plays a complete cluster f**c?
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2014, 05:18:04 PM »
Oh, I thought it was just my class! My 6th graders can't do a role play activity with props to save their lives. They don't listen to each other while performing and/or they're missing all of the studied vocabulary in their scene. I want to try role-playing with my 5th graders tomorrow,  but my plan is too allow them to make s story in their teams and then present. However, I may just change the activity to an individual cartoon book using the vocabulary.
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Re: Are your role plays a complete cluster f**c?
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2014, 05:22:48 PM »
Quote from: joeyg on June 30, 2014, 05:17:08 PM
They have been some of the most rewarding experiences; helping me to feel like I've actually taught my students something.
They've also done the exact opposite... "We did this for a couple weeks, but they seem to remember none of it?!".

In my book, freely made role plays based on the topic are the pinnacle of success and the best form of topic consolidation.
Can they effectively and fluently use what they've learned and apply it without minimal direction from the teacher?

If I have to spoon feed them to make their role plays, then I know I've fudged up somewhere.

Try to give them a whole lesson to develop and practice your role play. Make sure they stay on track, and you can be amazed at the results... it's usually amazing in a good way or a bad way. But highly worth it!

If you have time, something like I've attached can really get the students interested and ready to create their own role play.
*props to the original creator. I modified the language a little to match my subject somewhat and added a fun game at the end of the demo script.

** It's for Elementary by the way, but the same principles apply at all levels right?

Wow, your PPT is awesome!! Thanks for sharing! Do you mind if I modify for my class?
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Re: Are your role plays a complete cluster f**c?
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2014, 05:40:36 PM »
Roleplays can be great, but only if you have good classroom management routines and if the kids get used to them!!! In my classes, it's been helpful to routinely film the students' roleplays with a camera - you can show the video later so the kids have time to self-evaluate and also just to see themselves up there acting and speaking English, and you can also get a record of anyone who was interrupting or being rude during the roleplay to give penalty points to / make clean the classroom / whatever.
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Re: Are your role plays a complete cluster f**c?
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2014, 06:22:14 PM »
Thanks for the ideas.  I will use it for my classes, at least camp.  I also like to show clips and have students act them out.  Here is one I found, just now, that worked well with my students.  It isn't a target language, but something fun for students to use English with.





Concerning management there are a lot of variables and what kind of role play.  It is weird because I have some classes that love coming up to the front and acting things out.  Then I have some who love to practice with their groups.  I have had one or two that don't like either.  Thus, I give them worksheets, quizzes, or something. 

For teams, middle school, this is my advice, see if it works.

1.  Tell the teams to role play and practice.  Give them no more than three minutes.

2.  Go to each table, listening, and doing it, or asking one question from it, for one student.


My ultimate advice is to keep it short, keep it simple, and have the loudest kids come up.   

Man I really like that Avengers PPT!  I have so many ways I want to work with it.  I would also like to have students do a different competition.  For instance, if a person is the Hulk they arm wrestle Lokie, if Iron Man they answer questions, and etc.
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Re: Are your role plays a complete cluster f**c?
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2014, 03:13:14 PM »
Quote from: skyers on June 30, 2014, 05:22:48 PM
Quote from: joeyg on June 30, 2014, 05:17:08 PM
They have been some of the most rewarding experiences; helping me to feel like I've actually taught my students something.
They've also done the exact opposite... "We did this for a couple weeks, but they seem to remember none of it?!".

In my book, freely made role plays based on the topic are the pinnacle of success and the best form of topic consolidation.
Can they effectively and fluently use what they've learned and apply it without minimal direction from the teacher?

If I have to spoon feed them to make their role plays, then I know I've fudged up somewhere.

Try to give them a whole lesson to develop and practice your role play. Make sure they stay on track, and you can be amazed at the results... it's usually amazing in a good way or a bad way. But highly worth it!

If you have time, something like I've attached can really get the students interested and ready to create their own role play.
*props to the original creator. I modified the language a little to match my subject somewhat and added a fun game at the end of the demo script.

** It's for Elementary by the way, but the same principles apply at all levels right?

Wow, your PPT is awesome!! Thanks for sharing! Do you mind if I modify for my class?


Go for it, I already modified it from the original post. You could use it for any topic really.

"Hulk, let's go shopping?" "Sounds good! What do you want to buy Ironman?" "I want to buy a new helmet."

It's fun with the characters because you can encourage them to do different voices and say English with different intonation angry/robot/woman etc. etc. Kids enjoy that stuff.
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Re: Are your role plays a complete cluster f**c?
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2014, 03:33:08 PM »
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Re: Are your role plays a complete cluster f**c?
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2014, 03:47:32 PM »
They used to be, and then we started inviting their homeroom teacher to come watch their performances. Things got a lot better after that.
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