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  • Binnorie
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Lesson About Consent, Dating, or Sexual Abuse?
« on: March 21, 2016, 10:50:32 am »
I want to teach my middle school students about consent.  From what I've gathered, sexual abuse isn't addressed much in schools.  Has anyone taught about this topic?  How did it go?

If anyone has ideas or resources, I'd be interested in seeing them.  I'll certainly post my lesson once I put it together.


Re: Lesson About Consent, Dating, or Sexual Abuse?
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2016, 11:14:04 am »
I personally would stay well away from any topic such as that.

For middle schoolers ? !  Are you serious?


Re: Lesson About Consent, Dating, or Sexual Abuse?
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2016, 11:54:58 am »
I agree that this is not the topic you should be addressing in English class in Middle School Korea.  If you were a full time teacher in your home country, charged with the actual care and education of the children (if their age was appropriate) then by all means look into teaching the subject.  However, as we are Guest English Teachers, it is not our role to teach such a topic.

That said, I agree that it isn't addressed much in school from what I know - but then there are many things that happen in my school that I am unaware of.


Re: Lesson About Consent, Dating, or Sexual Abuse?
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2016, 12:01:00 pm »
Can you imagine the potential for parents to get the wrong end of the stick if their daughter comes home and tells them the foreign teacher was teaching them all about sexual consent in the class today?  :shocked:


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Re: Lesson About Consent, Dating, or Sexual Abuse?
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2016, 12:01:29 pm »
Ummm....yeah probably not a good idea. Even if it was high school you are the English teacher and it's not really your place (were you trained?). Korea is fairly conservative, especially at PS school and you might end up getting a lot of parental complaints.

If your heart is super set on it, run the lesson past your head of English first. Don't go unilateral on this one. Also, you might need him/her to translate some of what you're presenting. It's definitely not a subject you want any miscommunication on. 

I just asked my own co-teacher what they thought, they looked surprised/stunned asked "why?" and shook their head.
"You can't hurt me now, Mr Lee. I've lost all feeling"


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Re: Lesson About Consent, Dating, or Sexual Abuse?
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2016, 12:40:26 pm »
Please don't do this.  Your heart is in the right place, but English class in a Korean rural middle school is not the place to go social justice warrior..especially about anything sexual.  Frankly speaking, you have no idea how to teach this subject to a bunch of middle schoolers that come from a different culture and aren't fluent in English.
  They are going to do what is normal in Korea--a foreigner trying to teach them something that doesn't align with that will just be a waste of time. This is something that I Korean has to do.


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Re: Lesson About Consent, Dating, or Sexual Abuse?
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2016, 12:49:13 pm »
Don't even run it by the co-teacher. The old adage of never discussing politics, religion, and sex applies. You will never be able to cross that yawning cultural chasm.


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Re: Lesson About Consent, Dating, or Sexual Abuse?
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2016, 12:59:01 pm »
Yeah, i agree.
They are definitely going to tell you no, and if they don't, it's because they don't understand exactly what you want to do. 
Bringing this up is just going to make you look like a weirdo.  I don't want to bad talk people here, but posts like this honestly do worry me.  Take this in the spirit it's intended, but I have to question the common sense of someone that would think teaching lessons about sex and consent to middle school students in a foreign language is a good idea. 


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Re: Lesson About Consent, Dating, or Sexual Abuse?
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2016, 01:51:04 pm »
While I see that your heart is in the right place your brain isn't.  If you do want to teach something that helps them, teach a self-defense English class.  Even that I wouldn't do because the abuses that will be unleashed, but Koreans can at least not be 100% against it.  Don't even mention the word sex!  This class will be to defend themselves from people that are bigger than them that wants to hurt them, but again, I am highly not recommending this.

I am just wondering why you think it would be a good idea to teach this, as a foreigner, to middle school students, in the country, in a religiously conservative country?  This is something for college or possibly, stress on the possibly, for a girl's high school.

Just a heads up, kill this, erase the lesson plan, and don't mention it again.  I am sure that if you mention this to your CT they will wonder who the heck they hired and either not renew your contract or try and get you fired because of how bizarre and inappropriate this is for the age group you are teaching, especially for a person in your position.



Re: Lesson About Consent, Dating, or Sexual Abuse?
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2016, 02:06:32 pm »
While I see that your heart is in the right place your brain isn't.  If you do want to teach something that helps them, teach a self-defense English class.  Even that I wouldn't do because the abuses that will be unleashed, but Koreans can at least not be 100% against it.  Don't even mention the word sex!  This class will be to defend themselves from people that are bigger than them that wants to hurt them, but again, I am highly not recommending this.

I am just wondering why you think it would be a good idea to teach this, as a foreigner, to middle school students, in the country, in a religiously conservative country?  This is something for college or possibly, stress on the possibly, for a girl's high school.

Just a heads up, kill this, erase the lesson plan, and don't mention it again.  I am sure that if you mention this to your CT they will wonder who the heck they hired and either not renew your contract or try and get you fired because of how bizarre and inappropriate this is for the age group you are teaching, especially for a person in your position.

Do you even know what is allowed to be taught in Korea?  In England only the biological aspects of sexual reproduction are mandatory, and other issues such as consent, contracption and emotions are to be taught at the discretion of the school.  Parents have the right to withdraw their children (after being notified in advance) from lessons covering anything non-biological.  Religious schools (catholic especially) can use religion as a reason to ignore certain aspects altogether; as most contraception is banned by the church, they feel there is no point metioning it. 

Unless you know both the government's and your school's stance on ALL aspects of the issue, do not touch this with a 10 foot pole.


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Re: Lesson About Consent, Dating, or Sexual Abuse?
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2016, 07:43:10 am »
Okay, first off, I'm in a metropolitan city, not a rural school.  It was my Korean boyfriend and my Korean co-teacher/close friend who first suggested teaching this topic to me.

Obviously I want to keep it age appropriate, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with teaching teenagers that they should respect other people's bodies.  My boyfriend told me that, while serving in the Korean military, he'd hear people bragging about getting girls drunk and raping them.  I'd hope that if kids are brought into a conversation about not being entitled to others' bodies early enough, there's more accountability that that kind of scenario is a crime and can't be brushed under the rug.  I think it's important to talk to kids about how your body is your body and you deserve control over it to students--that concept seems very important and not at all shocking.

My co-teachers have been awesome, and have loved it when I've taught about racism, anti-smoking, etc.  I'm not going to go into explicit details about sex obviously; I wasn't even going to use the word.

Korea isn't as conservative as a lot of western countries seem to think it is.  My boyfriend told me that his health teacher in middle school talked about his former exploits with prostitutes and warned the kids to stay away from unprotected sex.

Maybe my school is just different than other schools, but I think teaching kids that they should respect the personal space of others isn't a huge shocker.  I've been here almost 2 years and have had absolutely zero complaints.  My co-teachers have praised me for talking about real issues with my students.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2016, 08:04:18 am by Binnorie »


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Re: Lesson About Consent, Dating, or Sexual Abuse?
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2016, 09:37:52 am »
Just ask your head English teacher, and show him/her you're lesson plan before you proceed.


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Re: Lesson About Consent, Dating, or Sexual Abuse?
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2016, 10:37:36 am »
The pushback isn't really about whether or not the students should hear this information,  it's about WHO should deliver the message. Sexual conduct/body protection isn't a topic for a middle school English class done by the school's foreign teacher. That's a topic that should be discussed in the native language with a person trained to talk about it. It's a sensitive thing that shouldn't get bungled by language deficiencies.  There are also cultural points to consider. What is and isn't appropriate isn't always the same in Korea and the West. They stick their fingers up each others buttholes as a joke here for jokes, hold hands and sit on each others laps, among other things. 
Topics like racism and anti smoking are a lot more black and white and easier to talk about,  but something like this should be done by a native professional.


Re: Lesson About Consent, Dating, or Sexual Abuse?
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2016, 12:26:41 pm »
This has to be a troll post, but let's assume it isn't.

You're and English teacher, and you're there to teach English. Don't pick some other topic that's interesting to you and sneak it into your English class. If your English lesson is going to have a theme, choose circumstantial themes (at school, at the store, with your friends, with your family). Even if there's not a lot of teaching on this (assuming that's appropriate in a middle school academic environment), it shouldn't be taught in English class--especially since you're goal seems to be teaching about the topic rather than the English of the topic. 


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Re: Lesson About Consent, Dating, or Sexual Abuse?
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2016, 11:46:51 am »
Okay, first off, I'm in a metropolitan city, not a rural school.  It was my Korean boyfriend and my Korean co-teacher/close friend who first suggested teaching this topic to me.

Obviously I want to keep it age appropriate, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with teaching teenagers that they should respect other people's bodies.  My boyfriend told me that, while serving in the Korean military, he'd hear people bragging about getting girls drunk and raping them.  I'd hope that if kids are brought into a conversation about not being entitled to others' bodies early enough, there's more accountability that that kind of scenario is a crime and can't be brushed under the rug.  I think it's important to talk to kids about how your body is your body and you deserve control over it to students--that concept seems very important and not at all shocking.

My co-teachers have been awesome, and have loved it when I've taught about racism, anti-smoking, etc.  I'm not going to go into explicit details about sex obviously; I wasn't even going to use the word.

Korea isn't as conservative as a lot of western countries seem to think it is.  My boyfriend told me that his health teacher in middle school talked about his former exploits with prostitutes and warned the kids to stay away from unprotected sex.

Maybe my school is just different than other schools, but I think teaching kids that they should respect the personal space of others isn't a huge shocker.  I've been here almost 2 years and have had absolutely zero complaints.  My co-teachers have praised me for talking about real issues with my students.

You're off your rocker. Imagine if your high school Spanish or French teacher decided to teach a lesson on bodily consent and sexual activities when you (presumably) barely speak the language. Middle schoolers have enough trouble holding basic conversations and debating simple topics like "Should we wear school uniforms" in English, let alone understanding something as culturally nuanced as consent. And yes, Western concepts of bodily autonomy and consent are not universally applicable to Korea, and you'll without a doubt be unable to properly elucidate the particular nuances without possibly running afoul of cultural norms that you aren't trained to deal with.

Leave this lesson on Tumblr and don't try to do anything but teach English. In my classes, I teach that racism and sexism is bad IF and only IF it is brought up in the class organically, at which point I'll do my best to address the topic and deal with it then. But I don't plan a lesson on a controversial subject (yes, this is controversial) that challenges some of the very basic cultural norms of my host society in an effort to educate my students on Western ideals.

Deal with it in the context of English if it comes up, and leave it at that.


  • bjinglee
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Re: Lesson About Consent, Dating, or Sexual Abuse?
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2016, 12:01:20 pm »
This is TOTALLY inappropriate for a middle school EFL class and as others pointed out the topic is also most likely over their heads from a language standpoint as well. File this under "what were you thinking" and move on to something they'll actually have fun with. 

I totally agree that at some point they should learn these things from someone, but their English native English teacher is absolutely not the person who should be doing that.
« Last Edit: June 01, 2016, 12:06:29 pm by bjinglee »


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Re: Lesson About Consent, Dating, or Sexual Abuse?
« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2016, 12:58:59 pm »
While I agree that this is not a subject I would touch with a ten foot pole... I think if OP is going to do it anyway, here's a suggestion:

Come up with some innocent role plays and stick with basic dialog like "No, don't touch me." "Stop. I don't like that." "Please call me a taxi." "I want to go home."

For example, two boys are horsing around, hitting each other, joking around. One boy hits too hard, and the other says "Stop. I don't like that." Then stress that the other person MUST STOP IMMEDIATELY.

Example 2, two girls are traveling abroad. One gets tired and says "I want to go home" while the other one asks a passerby to "Please call a taxi." Innocent, and good for many situations.


I think it is appropriate in our position as GET's to teach proper behavior, and even in elementary something as mentioned above is important for students to learn. Teach about safety, teach about proper behavior. Basically, teach them to respect the desires and opinions of others without bringing up sex, etc. If you teach with a coteacher, perhaps he or she could take it that step further and mention how the language learned can help protect one from weirdos and creeps too.

And perhaps even more importantly than the language used, watch how your students interact with each other on a daily basis. If you see that students aren't respecting their friends, step up and say something then. Tell your co-teachers and students why it is important that they STOP.  Perhaps then OP can subtly make a difference in the lives of her(?) students.


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Re: Lesson About Consent, Dating, or Sexual Abuse?
« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2016, 01:52:40 pm »
While I agree that this is not a subject I would touch with a ten foot pole... I think if OP is going to do it anyway, here's a suggestion:

Come up with some innocent role plays and stick with basic dialog like "No, don't touch me." "Stop. I don't like that." "Please call me a taxi." "I want to go home."

For example, two boys are horsing around, hitting each other, joking around. One boy hits too hard, and the other says "Stop. I don't like that." Then stress that the other person MUST STOP IMMEDIATELY.

Example 2, two girls are traveling abroad. One gets tired and says "I want to go home" while the other one asks a passerby to "Please call a taxi." Innocent, and good for many situations.


I think it is appropriate in our position as GET's to teach proper behavior, and even in elementary something as mentioned above is important for students to learn. Teach about safety, teach about proper behavior. Basically, teach them to respect the desires and opinions of others without bringing up sex, etc. If you teach with a coteacher, perhaps he or she could take it that step further and mention how the language learned can help protect one from weirdos and creeps too.

And perhaps even more importantly than the language used, watch how your students interact with each other on a daily basis. If you see that students aren't respecting their friends, step up and say something then. Tell your co-teachers and students why it is important that they STOP.  Perhaps then OP can subtly make a difference in the lives of her(?) students.

I think these more innocent role play ideas are a great idea!
I agree that you should not bring up the subject of sex and consent as an entire lesson, although I really commend you on addressing other important issues such as racism. But this one could really go the wrong way, and I think the most important thing  will be how difficult it will be to have them understand this in a completely different language.
I myself have talked about safety and stuff WHEN IT CAME UP IN CLASS. For example, there was a section in the book (for my middle schoolers) about internet dating, and I just kinda stressed to them that you can't really know who is on the other side of the connection so they should be careful.
I also (I kid you not) had a class of middle school girls (just girls) I am quite close with and one said something about "Coke". It came out TOTALLY WRONG (I think you know what I mean), and so I basically told her that sounds like a bad word and told her to enunciate it correctly (finally I gave up and told her to just say Cola haha), and we all had a good laugh. But that was still a bit of a risk, because if it had rubbed one student/parent the wrong way, I'm sure someone would have jumped down my throat.
Just be careful. No one wants you to cross any cultural boundaries and get in any kind of trouble, even if you're coming from a good place.

Honestly, I wouldn't do a lesson on this topic. I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THESE STUDENTS NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THIS STUFF, but it would be difficult and a bit inappropriate to talk about unless it was a high level, special class- such as 'English and Social Issues for Adults'. But if you must, I like the ideads janelle_j threw out there!
Good luck and I know some people are coming off a bit harsh, but I think everyone feels your heart is in the right place; this just,well, is not the time or the place, haha.


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Re: Lesson About Consent, Dating, or Sexual Abuse?
« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2016, 01:54:05 pm »
While I agree that this is not a subject I would touch with a ten foot pole... I think if OP is going to do it anyway, here's a suggestion:

Come up with some innocent role plays and stick with basic dialog like "No, don't touch me." "Stop. I don't like that." "Please call me a taxi." "I want to go home."

For example, two boys are horsing around, hitting each other, joking around. One boy hits too hard, and the other says "Stop. I don't like that." Then stress that the other person MUST STOP IMMEDIATELY.

Example 2, two girls are traveling abroad. One gets tired and says "I want to go home" while the other one asks a passerby to "Please call a taxi." Innocent, and good for many situations.


I think it is appropriate in our position as GET's to teach proper behavior, and even in elementary something as mentioned above is important for students to learn. Teach about safety, teach about proper behavior. Basically, teach them to respect the desires and opinions of others without bringing up sex, etc. If you teach with a coteacher, perhaps he or she could take it that step further and mention how the language learned can help protect one from weirdos and creeps too.

And perhaps even more importantly than the language used, watch how your students interact with each other on a daily basis. If you see that students aren't respecting their friends, step up and say something then. Tell your co-teachers and students why it is important that they STOP.  Perhaps then OP can subtly make a difference in the lives of her(?) students.

Bump. Sounds like OP is gonna do it anyway so may as well focus on how to handle it appropriately. You don't even need to broach the topic of sex. Focusing on the respecting others part should be good as it could then be applied to most circumstances.


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Re: Lesson About Consent, Dating, or Sexual Abuse?
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2016, 08:36:46 am »
Wow teach Sex Ed. why don't you?   :rolleyes: :rolleyes: