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Offline GotMyTowel

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Moving from Middle to Elementary - any tips?
« on: April 05, 2016, 10:49:07 AM »
So because of the budget cuts in Changwon I'm one of a few teachers being moved from Middle to Elementary School. I've been told Elementary lessons in general tend to stick to the textbook with little variation, but also have to be very entertaining and engaging.

I wanted to ask for those who have made the same transition, is there any key advice you wish you had been given to help prepare for the move?

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Re: Moving from Middle to Elementary - any tips?
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2016, 11:25:00 AM »
I had 2 of my days taken away flast year from my MS to an elem school. However, because I was only there 2 days a week they didn't want me to teach from the book and I had to make my own lesson plans. Which I hated at first because I'd never taught at elem but now I miss it because I started my own routine and the students usually knew what to expect in my classes.

This year I have 3 schools (1 MS and 2 elem) I still go to elem 2 days a week but now it's split up into two days two schools. Both use a different text book. One school doesn't care what I do as long as I teach my parts of the book.  The other elem school doesn't like me deviating from the book at all. I guess they want me to reinforce what the students are learning in class. 

It's a little hard but depending on what you like it can be great. The kids have more energy than MS and you are usually done teaching by 2PM. Although you may have most of your classes back to back instead of like the MS where it can be randomly throughout the day. Or if you have afternoon classes you wouldn't be done by 2PM but those can be whatever you want. Good luck! If you have more Q's feel free to PM me. :]

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Re: Moving from Middle to Elementary - any tips?
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2016, 11:43:33 AM »
So because of the budget cuts in Changwon I'm one of a few teachers being moved from Middle to Elementary School. I've been told Elementary lessons in general tend to stick to the textbook with little variation, but also have to be very entertaining and engaging.

I wanted to ask for those who have made the same transition, is there any key advice you wish you had been given to help prepare for the move?

To be on the safe side and to cover the textbook content: Use a cd to introduce the topic of that particular period (don't have to, but the teachers like me to use the cd's). I then use bomb games and other activities to get them to use the target language. The students looooooove bomb games. This is what works for me in my rural schools where the level of English is quite low.

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Re: Moving from Middle to Elementary - any tips?
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2016, 02:48:30 PM »
I've worked High, Middle and Elementary schools.  I think the biggest shock I  had is that it takes so long for students to do a basic task like cut some paper and write things down.

In Elementary School you are supposed to teach lessons with your co teacher.  Some Korean Teachers let you get on with it where as others like to micromanage and don't understand that you are actually there to teach. 

As far as advice goes just be aware that your classes will probably be mixed ability.  I have one class with students who cant write Korean  in with high levels students who attend Hagwons to study English.

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Re: Moving from Middle to Elementary - any tips?
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2016, 04:06:42 PM »
I went from Middle to Elementary are here is what I personally found.  As with anything, this should be taken as purely one persons experience and nothing more.  (All observations pertain to elementary unless stated)

- My co-teacher is more hands on in elementary, more actual co-teaching.  She takes the lead more often than not.  (It was mixed in middle school, but I was usually running the show).  This year she actually creates most of the lesson plans and I'm following along and adding where needed.  In middle there were days I was a button clicker and pronunciation robot, and other days where I did it all and no help from the ct.  Elementary is more team work.

-The kids have a much higher energy level.  Milling activities, getting them up and active somehow is almost essential.  Grade 4's can hardly stay in their seats.  All grades love a walk/talk activity.  You could bounce balls off middle school kids and they still wouldn't play some days.

- I found middle school was much more by the text book, where elementary had much more scope to leave the text book out for classes, only using it for the base vocab and sentence structure prompts.

- Elementary: 4 classes before lunch, sometimes one more after lunch but it's all done by 5th period. Middle: all over the place, but rarely more than 2 in a row, never more than 3. And classes are shorter too, 40 minutes vs 45.

- I agree there is a mixed ability in classes, but the low low level kids are fewer than in middle school.  The gap was larger in middle, with more kids at the low level.  At my elementary school there is rarely more than one low level per class.

-Class sizes: Elementary, 22 - 27 at most.  Middle, 35 on average. 

- Many adorable kids in elementary.  Middle school had a larger percentage of little s**ts.  Lets not even think about 2nd grade. Just don't...

- You could easily do more song and dance with elementary, but you don't have to.  I don't but my ct likes a song, so I let her go and just watch. In middle school, unless it's k-pop, songs always went down like a lead balloon.






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Re: Moving from Middle to Elementary - any tips?
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2016, 06:57:38 PM »
Key differences I found (+ advice):

> Elementary is more organised - the calendar is set waaaaaaay in advance and there are far fewer sudden timetable changes (my middle school constantly changed things on everyone despite having a yearly calendar).
So ask for any special dates you need to know. I wasn't involved in any school events in middle school while in elementary school I'm a part of Sports Days, Teacher Introductions, Parents-Teacher Days, Fire Drills etc.

> More teachers will speak to you in elementary school.

> Elementary schools focus more on communicative ESL learning - so games, activities and so on. Middle school is focused on testing.
Start collecting varied games and activities, especially games that get students off their chairs (think of your childhood games and how they can be adapted to lessons). The activities/games should be varied enough that the kids don't complain but you should keep in mind that if it's a good activity your CT will use it in his/her classes too, so your kids will get bored easily (I try not to use something more than 3 times a semester).

> Instructions have to be really, really clear and simple. If the explanation involves more than 4 sentences then more often then not it isn't worth it.

> Some CTs are fine with activities/games that last 5 minutes while others like activities for 20.

> Less bomb games. My CTs in middle school only did bomb games. In elementary school bomb games are more of a I-messed-up-and-didn't-plan-so-let's-do-a-bomb-game thing.

> Pray you don't get an afterschool that has combined classes of Gr 3-5. Or worse, grades 1-5.

> If you get asked, level your afterschool classes but DON'T call them "Basic" or "Advanced" classes. Call them something innocuous like the "Dandelion" and "Butterfly" class. All the mothers believe their children should be in the advanced class and they will fight to get their kids into that class. Also, keep the tests in case you have to have any discussions about their child's actual ability.

> English books that we read during our childhoods - the classic stories - are classics for a reason and the kids love them here too.

> Middle school camps can be activity based (actively practising their English) but elementary camps need to have more teacherly lessons with/and then some activities. Don't try to do an activity-only camp with kids without any English ability unless you're very good and very confident that they can come out of camp having learnt something.

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Re: Moving from Middle to Elementary - any tips?
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2016, 06:25:00 PM »
A few things:

The younger they are, the more repetition they need, and the longer things take.  Seriously - you will be astonished how long it can take an 8 year old to peel four stickers from the back of their workbook and stick them on a page.

3rd graders and under will be bored after 10 minutes of the same activity - 15 tops.  Especially true when it comes to reading and writing.  Lots of little activities that reinforce the same lesson are key.

Songs and actions are great time fillers for little ones, and they love it!  If you can bring yourself to let loose and be a little goofy, the kids will think you're hilarious.

(In my experience) 4th graders are still kids, 6th graders are teenagers, and 5th graders are evolving before your eyes.  This makes 5th grade a challenge, because sometimes you'll find an activity they still like in April is "for babies" by November.

Games are key, but different age groups like different things.  As a general rule, I've noticed that 3rd and 4th graders are more engaged when they can get out of their seats and run around.  They are also more prone to crying if things are difficult, or if they lose games, I like games that set all the kids up for a win, or just don't have a winner at all.  On the other hand, 5th and 6th graders love a competitive game, but don't like to move (walking around for a speaking activity is the most active they want to be).  Think writing/PPT/quiz games.  I avoid reusing games with my older kids unless they really like it.  Novelty wears off quickly.

Grade 4 and under like Pikachu, Doraemon, Frozen, Finding Nemo, Lilo and Stitch, etc.  Grade 5 and up like the latest big blockbuster movies, sports and kpop bands (lately, my girls are all about BTS, MonstarX, EXID and Twice ... it changes almost monthly, though).  Throw a couple of band names in their word search along with their new vocabulary, and they will think you're the coolest teacher ever, haha.  Everyone likes Minions and superheroes.

As for having only a few low level kids per class, that really depends on what school you end up at.  I teach at two schools, and they could not be more opposite in terms of student levels.  I wouldn't worry about until it happens, though.

Keep band-aids, pencils, erasers, and pencil sharpeners around.  Kids will definitely need all of those things at some point.

Good luck!

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Re: Moving from Middle to Elementary - any tips?
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2016, 10:46:49 AM »
In elementary I think you can be a bit more silly in class and have more fun. This of course depends on your coteacher. In my main ele. school, my coteachers have been great! In my rural one I have no coteacher, so the kids can be hard to control, but I can do whatever the hell I want as long as I complete my parts of the textbook.

I miss middle school though because I could actually have some meaningful conversations with some students. This applies to elementary school, although more rarely, as the students' English is much less developed on average. That doesn't mean you can't build a close and lasting relationship with them, just it takes a bit more work.

Good luck! I also had to make a similar transition after my first year, and actually had to move cities as well. I was pretty sad and nervous, but with an open mind, you can adapt to almost anything!

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Re: Moving from Middle to Elementary - any tips?
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2016, 11:28:39 AM »
Just enjoy your new life with a bunch of goofball kids and a pretty simple curriculum. The students will really love you, most likely  :P

 

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