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How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« on: May 25, 2016, 09:37:04 AM »
"What is new is the direct indictment of white people as a race....

"White people are being asked—or pushed—to take stock of their whiteness and identify with it more. This is a remarkably bad idea. The last thing our society needs is for white people to feel more tribal. The result of this tribalism will not be a catharsis of white identity, improving equality for non-whites. It will be resentment towards being the only tribe not given the special treatment bestowed by victimhood....

"In the past, most whites identified with their European ethnicity: Irish, Italian, German, etc. As white people gravitate away from such identities, many see themselves as a neutral, 'non racial' population. The Left criticizes this refusal to see themselves as 'white,' but it is far preferable to the alternative: an American white population that views itself as a special-interest group....

It surprises many people that an increasing number of white Americans over the past decade believe whites face more discrimination than blacks....

"Young white men, reacting to social and educational constructs that paint them as the embodiment of historical evil, are fertile ground for white supremacists. They are very aware of the dichotomy between non-white culture, which must be valued at all times (even in the midst of terror attacks), and white culture, which must be criticized and devalued. They don’t like it."
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It seems that race relations in the US have gotten a lot worse within the last two years (since the Michael Brown shooting). There have been many protests about police shootings and microaggressions on college campuses. At the same time white nationalist groups have begun to take a much more active role in mainstream politics. The KKK has nearly tripled in size.  I know a professor who teaches history at a community college where most of the students are white. He says that he often hears comments like, "Why isn't there a white history month? It's not fair." He also says when when he teaches about certain sensitive topics (like native Americans being forcibly relocated to reservations) he has to make it clear he's not blaming all white people or he gets complaints from students. So is this all a backlash against the negative stereotyping of white people? White people are a diverse group themselves. Some of them have their own history of discrimination in the US and aren't so privileged nowadays due to economic reasons.

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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2016, 11:46:02 AM »
The real problem in the USA is white supremacy. White supremacy is not just a bunch of violent racist thugs that beat up and kill people, but it's rather a racist rhetoric. This is and has been a problem in America for all the years it has existed.

It was mentioned that the KKK has trippled in size since the past few years. Well, that goes to show that the KKK, USM and all these other white supremacist millitia groups in the USA are the biggest terrorist threat in the USA.

Also bear this in mind. White supremacy has been around for 500 years, and it has killed
tens of millions of people much worse than Islamic extremism.

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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2016, 11:52:08 AM »
The real problem in the USA is white supremacy. White supremacy is not just a bunch of violent racist thugs that beat up and kill people, but it's rather a racist rhetoric. This is and has been a problem in America for all the years it has existed.

It was mentioned that the KKK has trippled in size since the past few years. Well, that goes to show that the KKK, USM and all these other white supremacist millitia groups in the USA are the biggest terrorist threat in the USA.

Also bear this in mind. White supremacy has been around for 500 years, and it has killed
tens of millions of people much worse than Islamic extremism.

What about the Illuminati?

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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2016, 11:56:22 AM »
White supremacy is a huge problem, but what's fueling the white supremacy could be the larger problem. Why is the KKK being tripled? Why are more young people taking pride in their whiteness? Like the OP said "Young white men, reacting to social and educational constructs that paint them as the embodiment of historical evil, are fertile ground for white supremacists."
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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2016, 12:11:31 PM »
Maybe if everyone just shut the %$^ up, then all these groups wouldn't grow on all sides.  Do you really think people like having a finger waved in their face for things that happened years before most of us were ever born?  Anything we have, we worked for.  Go work it and you'll have it too.  While all these attention grabbing turds are stirring up the hornets nest and getting everyone against each other, you have other countries rising up like China and then Russia trying to make a comeback.  Seriously folks, get your $h!t together and stand united. 

All lives matter.  We are all humans. 

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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2016, 12:14:09 PM »
The real problem in the USA is white supremacy. White supremacy is not just a bunch of violent racist thugs that beat up and kill people, but it's rather a racist rhetoric. This is and has been a problem in America for all the years it has existed.

It was mentioned that the KKK has trippled in size since the past few years. Well, that goes to show that the KKK, USM and all these other white supremacist millitia groups in the USA are the biggest terrorist threat in the USA.

Also bear this in mind. White supremacy has been around for 500 years, and it has killed
tens of millions of people much worse than Islamic extremism.

What about the Illuminati?

Yes, the Illuminatti are behind this because them and the Knights of Columbus are all from the Jesuit order. The KKK is connected to the Knights of Columbus. They are all secret societies that JFK once spoke out against.

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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2016, 12:17:53 PM »
Maybe if everyone just shut the %$^ up, then all these groups wouldn't grow on all sides.  Do you really think people like having a finger waved in their face for things that happened years before most of us were ever born?  Anything we have, we worked for.  Go work it and you'll have it too.  While all these attention grabbing turds are stirring up the hornets nest and getting everyone against each other, you have other countries rising up like China and then Russia trying to make a comeback.  Seriously folks, get your $h!t together and stand united. 

All lives matter.  We are all humans.

The try saying that about groups like ISIL. Them and these white supremacist groups are no different. You got the US government speaking out against terrorism by these Islamic extremists and yet these Islamic extremists are growing. If you think that's the same with these white supremacist groups, then perhaps more action should be taken to wipe them all out.

And besides, I am not going to support the America's fight against terrorism unless they fight these white supremacist terrorist groups in the USA first.

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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2016, 12:21:30 PM »
The real problem in the USA is white supremacy. White supremacy is not just a bunch of violent racist thugs that beat up and kill people, but it's rather a racist rhetoric. This is and has been a problem in America for all the years it has existed.

It was mentioned that the KKK has trippled in size since the past few years. Well, that goes to show that the KKK, USM and all these other white supremacist millitia groups in the USA are the biggest terrorist threat in the USA.

Also bear this in mind. White supremacy has been around for 500 years, and it has killed
tens of millions of people much worse than Islamic extremism.

What about the Illuminati?

Yes, the Illuminatti are behind this because them and the Knights of Columbus are all from the Jesuit order. The KKK is connected to the Knights of Columbus. They are all secret societies that JFK once spoke out against.
There's the good stuff.
How about the Rothschilds? And more importantly, the lizard people? I'm sure they are involved in this some how.

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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2016, 12:25:21 PM »


Well, that goes to show that the KKK, USM and all these other white supremacist millitia groups in the USA are the biggest terrorist threat in the USA.


Could I ask you what USM stands for? US Military?
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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2016, 12:33:41 PM »
The real problem in the USA is white supremacy. White supremacy is not just a bunch of violent racist thugs that beat up and kill people, but it's rather a racist rhetoric. This is and has been a problem in America for all the years it has existed.

It was mentioned that the KKK has trippled in size since the past few years. Well, that goes to show that the KKK, USM and all these other white supremacist millitia groups in the USA are the biggest terrorist threat in the USA.

Also bear this in mind. White supremacy has been around for 500 years, and it has killed
tens of millions of people much worse than Islamic extremism.

What about the Illuminati?

Yes, the Illuminatti are behind this because them and the Knights of Columbus are all from the Jesuit order. The KKK is connected to the Knights of Columbus. They are all secret societies that JFK once spoke out against.
There's the good stuff.
How about the Rothschilds? And more importantly, the lizard people? I'm sure they are involved in this some how.

Oh yes, the Rothchilds are a part of these secret society scheme. They don't care who's the enemy or who's not just as long as they are able to make their profits but lending money and also funding them.

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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2016, 12:38:18 PM »
The real problem in the USA is white supremacy. White supremacy is not just a bunch of violent racist thugs that beat up and kill people, but it's rather a racist rhetoric. This is and has been a problem in America for all the years it has existed.

It was mentioned that the KKK has trippled in size since the past few years. Well, that goes to show that the KKK, USM and all these other white supremacist millitia groups in the USA are the biggest terrorist threat in the USA.

Also bear this in mind. White supremacy has been around for 500 years, and it has killed
tens of millions of people much worse than Islamic extremism.

What about the Illuminati?

Yes, the Illuminatti are behind this because them and the Knights of Columbus are all from the Jesuit order. The KKK is connected to the Knights of Columbus. They are all secret societies that JFK once spoke out against.
There's the good stuff.
How about the Rothschilds? And more importantly, the lizard people? I'm sure they are involved in this some how.

You mock us now, but soon we'll be able to shed these stupid human masks and make you our slaves. Just need a few more years...chemtrails is taking surprisingly forever. wind, it just blows all over the place, ugh so annoying.

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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2016, 12:47:32 PM »
The real problem in the USA is white supremacy. White supremacy is not just a bunch of violent racist thugs that beat up and kill people, but it's rather a racist rhetoric. This is and has been a problem in America for all the years it has existed.

It was mentioned that the KKK has trippled in size since the past few years. Well, that goes to show that the KKK, USM and all these other white supremacist millitia groups in the USA are the biggest terrorist threat in the USA.

Also bear this in mind. White supremacy has been around for 500 years, and it has killed
tens of millions of people much worse than Islamic extremism.

What about the Illuminati?

Yes, the Illuminatti are behind this because them and the Knights of Columbus are all from the Jesuit order. The KKK is connected to the Knights of Columbus. They are all secret societies that JFK once spoke out against.
There's the good stuff.
How about the Rothschilds? And more importantly, the lizard people? I'm sure they are involved in this some how.

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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2016, 01:05:18 PM »
False. White nationalism is fueling white nationalism.

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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2016, 01:29:35 PM »
Who was pointing their finger at white supremacists all those years they ran rampant and spread terror everywhere they set foot on?

Now people are saying they threatened because they are being told they benefit from a system that was designed to benefit them based on their skin colour, and those same people  turn to the same groups and rhetoric that set up that same system in the first place as an act of defiance??? puh-lease.

You can either acknowledge the problem of white supremacy and help to work towards creating a more equal society, or you can fight to keep the benefits white supremacy spent years killing and terrorising for.

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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2016, 01:38:46 PM »
Who was pointing their finger at white supremacists all those years they ran rampant and spread terror everywhere they set foot on?

Now people are saying they threatened because they are being told they benefit from a system that was designed to benefit them based on their skin colour, and those same people  turn to the same groups and rhetoric that set up that same system in the first place as an act of defiance??? puh-lease.

You can either acknowledge the problem of white supremacy and help to work towards creating a more equal society, or you can fight to keep the benefits white supremacy spent years killing and terrorising for.

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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2016, 02:13:23 PM »
The real problem in the USA is white supremacy. White supremacy is not just a bunch of violent racist thugs that beat up and kill people, but it's rather a racist rhetoric. This is and has been a problem in America for all the years it has existed.

It was mentioned that the KKK has trippled in size since the past few years. Well, that goes to show that the KKK, USM and all these other white supremacist millitia groups in the USA are the biggest terrorist threat in the USA.

Also bear this in mind. White supremacy has been around for 500 years, and it has killed
tens of millions of people much worse than Islamic extremism.

The KKK and the militia are NOT the biggest threat. Heart disease and corporate fatty foods are a bigger threat than the KKK. Islamic terrorists have destabilized entire countries creating millions of refugees. The KKK sends out newsletters, burns crosses in the woods, and few times a year kills someone in a glorified bar fight and once every 5 years spawns a nut that bombs or shoots up a church. They are nowhere near the same threat. The KKK doesn't bomb airliners or blow up commuter trains. It doesn't seize natural resources and start mass executions of minorities.

Fact is that many "white supremacist" organizations are little more than criminal gangs engaged in narco trafficking and motivated as much by having a gang in prison as they are over any political ideology. Do I think some Latino gang is bent on the reconquista and visions of La Raza? No. They want to deal meth and heroin and make money. 

Who was pointing their finger at white supremacists all those years they ran rampant and spread terror everywhere they set foot on?

Now people are saying they threatened because they are being told they benefit from a system that was designed to benefit them based on their skin colour, and those same people  turn to the same groups and rhetoric that set up that same system in the first place as an act of defiance??? puh-lease.

You can either acknowledge the problem of white supremacy and help to work towards creating a more equal society, or you can fight to keep the benefits white supremacy spent years killing and terrorising for.

White supremacist groups did not run rampant. Capitalist groups have run rampant. The Neocons have run rampant. Since the 80s, white supremacy has been a fringe movement.

There are problems with latent racism and biased policies, but we can address those without resorting to wild exaggerations.

I also think that turning "white male" into a pejorative term will undoubtedly produce a backlash. It's one thing to fight for equality, it's another to blame the majority for all the ills in your life.

People who externalize blame will always face difficulties. People who internalize blame begin the process of improvement.

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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2016, 02:58:14 PM »
The great thing about this subject is pointing out racism makes you a racist, thus making racist ramp up their racism.

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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2016, 03:45:45 PM »
It must be an unfortunate coincidence that minorities suffer from disproportionate incarceration rates, underfunded schools, disproportionate unemployment rates, disproportionate poverty rates and a whole host of other issues.

Nothing systematic about those.

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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2016, 04:05:50 PM »
It must be an unfortunate coincidence that minorities suffer from disproportionate incarceration rates, underfunded schools, disproportionate unemployment rates, disproportionate poverty rates and a whole host of other issues.

Nothing systematic about those.

All minorities or just certain ethno-communities? African immigrants have the best levels of education in America. Asian-Americans also are disproportionately well-off, though this varies drastically among nations. Caribbean-Americans do well also.

I think the situation is more complex than simple racism.

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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2016, 04:21:21 PM »
The real problem in the USA is white supremacy. White supremacy is not just a bunch of violent racist thugs that beat up and kill people, but it's rather a racist rhetoric. This is and has been a problem in America for all the years it has existed.

It was mentioned that the KKK has trippled in size since the past few years. Well, that goes to show that the KKK, USM and all these other white supremacist millitia groups in the USA are the biggest terrorist threat in the USA.

Also bear this in mind. White supremacy has been around for 500 years, and it has killed
tens of millions of people much worse than Islamic extremism.

The KKK and the militia are NOT the biggest threat. Heart disease and corporate fatty foods are a bigger threat than the KKK. Islamic terrorists have destabilized entire countries creating millions of refugees. The KKK sends out newsletters, burns crosses in the woods, and few times a year kills someone in a glorified bar fight and once every 5 years spawns a nut that bombs or shoots up a church. They are nowhere near the same threat. The KKK doesn't bomb airliners or blow up commuter trains. It doesn't seize natural resources and start mass executions of minorities.

Fact is that many "white supremacist" organizations are little more than criminal gangs engaged in narco trafficking and motivated as much by having a gang in prison as they are over any political ideology. Do I think some Latino gang is bent on the reconquista and visions of La Raza? No. They want to deal meth and heroin and make money. 

Who was pointing their finger at white supremacists all those years they ran rampant and spread terror everywhere they set foot on?

Now people are saying they threatened because they are being told they benefit from a system that was designed to benefit them based on their skin colour, and those same people  turn to the same groups and rhetoric that set up that same system in the first place as an act of defiance??? puh-lease.

You can either acknowledge the problem of white supremacy and help to work towards creating a more equal society, or you can fight to keep the benefits white supremacy spent years killing and terrorising for.

White supremacist groups did not run rampant. Capitalist groups have run rampant. The Neocons have run rampant. Since the 80s, white supremacy has been a fringe movement.

There are problems with latent racism and biased policies, but we can address those without resorting to wild exaggerations.

I also think that turning "white male" into a pejorative term will undoubtedly produce a backlash. It's one thing to fight for equality, it's another to blame the majority for all the ills in your life.

People who externalize blame will always face difficulties. People who internalize blame begin the process of improvement.

You are wrong right there. ISIL did not destabalize countries in the middle east, it was the USA and all these western imperialists with their destructive policies that caused the destabalization of these countries that caused ISIL to exist in the first place. If the USA did not start that dirty war in Iraq nor support the rebels to take down Ghadhaffi in Libya, Ghadhaffi and Saddam Hussein would have used their countrol they had over their countries as leaders to stop these Islamic extremist terrorists from causing more trouble.

 

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