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Offline Archeon

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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #60 on: May 26, 2016, 03:10:22 PM »
Newton said that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. I believe that's what we're seeing here. The more you try to shove your anti-white rhetoric down people's throats the more they are going to push back.

A white supremacist using a scientific argument, however poorly, is progress at least.

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Under communism, it's just the opposite.
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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #61 on: May 26, 2016, 03:12:04 PM »


Equal opportunity does not always lead to equal results.

That is he whole premise of white supremacy.

To prevent other groups from sharing the same status as them.

Wat

Treating people equally is the "whole premise of white supremacy"?

Wat

Not being racist is white supremacy? Sorry if I'm putting words in your mouth or taking your  words out of context, but I'm seriously trying to figure this out. Treating people equally is racism?

"Equal opportunity does not always lead to equal results" is along the lines many who oppose equal opportunities use to justify their views.

The "unequal results" tend to be things like minorities gaining social status and getting closer in terms of prosperity to the mainstream.

When You’re Accustomed to Privilege, Equality Feels Like Oppression

You replied to my post, but you did not attempt to answer any of my questions. Feel free to post your confusing ramblings, but don't quote my post if you have nothing to say to me. You are engaging in sophistry, and your posts make you seem drunk.

I cannot parse this sentence:

"Equal opportunity does not always lead to equal results" is along the lines many who oppose equal opportunities use to justify their views.
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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #62 on: May 26, 2016, 03:16:50 PM »
Newton said that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. I believe that's what we're seeing here. The more you try to shove your anti-white rhetoric down people's throats the more they are going to push back.

A white supremacist using a scientific argument, however poorly, is progress at least.

white su·prem·a·cy
noun
the belief that white people are superior to those of all other races, especially the black race, and should therefore dominate society.

What are you basing this accusation on. Where did CDW say he thinks white people are superior to black people?


Let's settle this. CDW, do you think that white people are superior to people of other races? Do you think that white people should dominate society?

Edit: if the answer to these questions is yes, CDW, and you do in fact believe that white people are superior to other races and that white people should dominate society; any regrets about moving to Asia?
« Last Edit: May 26, 2016, 03:20:26 PM by shanebarry1986 »
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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #63 on: May 26, 2016, 03:33:49 PM »

What are you basing this accusation on.

It is not an accusation, it is a label.
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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #64 on: May 26, 2016, 03:42:30 PM »

What are you basing this accusation on.

It is not an accusation, it is a label.

white su·prem·a·cy
noun
the belief that white people are superior to those of all other races, especially the black race, and should therefore dominate society.

What are you basing this accusation label on? Where did CDW say he thinks white people are superior to black people?


Let's settle this. CDW, do you think that white people are superior to people of other races? Do you think that white people should dominate society?

Edit: if the answer to these questions is yes, CDW, and you do in fact believe that white people are superior to other races and that white people should dominate society; any regrets about moving to Asia?
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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #65 on: May 26, 2016, 03:45:39 PM »

What are you basing this accusation on.

It is not an accusation, it is a label.

You took the time to reply to my post, but you didn't attempt to answer the question I asked. There must be a reason for this.

It is not very nice to label people. Your mommy probably should have told you not to label people. My mommy told me.
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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #66 on: May 26, 2016, 03:47:08 PM »

What are you basing this accusation on.

It is not an accusation, it is a label.

You took the time to reply to my post, but you didn't attempt to answer the question I asked. There must be a reason for this.

It is not very nice to label people. Your mommy probably should have told you not to label people. My mommy told me.

What question?
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Under communism, it's just the opposite.
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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #67 on: May 26, 2016, 03:49:45 PM »
No one wants to be a minority.

No Nigerian wants their country to become 90% Mexican. It would no longer be Nigeria.

No Mexican wants their country to become 90% Somalian. It would no longer be Mexico.

Preference for your own people is natural. Just because you prefer your own doesn't mean you hate everyone else.

You prefer your family, it doesn't mean you hate everyone else.

Every non-white country on the planet understands this.

It's only white people who are labelled racist for holding this view (labelled racist by other mentally ill white people).

Wait, wait... we're talking about the US, right? Exactly when was the US a white country? "Your own people" is everyone.

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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #68 on: May 26, 2016, 03:50:57 PM »
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Treating people equally is racism?


It has been for a while. Claiming not to be racist is failing to admit the inherent racism you automatically possess by being a product of the white supremacist system. Treating people equally is not checking your white privilege.

/s?

Who said I was white? Check your privilege.

Lol, jk I'm the whitest person ever.

Anyways, I live in Korea. Does that mean it isn't racist if I say I hate Koreans? Or Jews? Because Korea is a Korean supremacist system, right?

If I go to Liberia and say I hate Liberians, that's not racist because I'm a minority there?

Wat

If a Chinese person in Finland says she hates Hispanics and wants to build a wall around Russia to keep out Mexicans is she racist?

Or is it better if we agree with the first result from a google search of the term 'racism', that:

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"Racism is the belief that a particular race is superior or inferior to another, that a person's social and moral traits are predetermined by his or her inborn biological characteristics."
?

Because according to the new, completely mental, millennial definition of racism, no white, black or Hispanic person living in Asia can be racist, right?

No, it's just prejudiced. /s

Look, I'm not Mr. MRA/Cry about whites guy, but when I see crap about inequality, I will speak up about it. No, I don't think SJW Tumblr shit is everyday and infecting the core of our world, but if I see it, I'll call it out.

I took too many courses on Nationalism and Ethnic cleansing in Uni to not speak up about this. Turning people into "the other" and "not in our group" is very dangerous, especially when drawn on arbitrary lines, like race or sex.

I took courses on human rights, on democracy and justice. I'll give everyone a fair shake and hear them out. I'll then decide on whether or not I agree with them. I can have opinions on gay marriage even though I'm not gay, I can have thoughts on police brutality even though I've never been subjected to it.
And, yes, I have been told that my opinion doesn't matter because I'm A) white, B) a man and C) not gay. And it's infuriating. Imagine asking a group of friends about how to get a date with a woman and your gay friend piped in with an idea and someone said, "Hey, whatever homo, it's not a gay date, stay out of it."

THERE WOULD BE HELL TO PAY. It's not enough to simply cry that discrimination happens and then discriminate against a group that you deem your "oppressors."

#whitetears #killallmen #givemoneytowomen #teachmennottorape

Is this pervsasive? No. Do I lose sleep over it? No. But I will call bullshit when I see it.

No one gets a turn at being in a position of power. Yeah, white males controlled everything 150 years ago (yeah, it was before and after that to a degree, I get it). That doesn't mean that a woman deserves to be President. Or a black man. Or a white man. Throw your ideas out there and let the populace decide as they may. Collect all the resumes and pick the one who WOULD PERFORM THE BEST. I wouldn't vote for Hillary in a thousand years. Why? Because she's a shill. I would vote for Bernie. He HAPPENS to be a white male. I also like his POLICIES.

Listen. Respect. Debate.

It ain't brain surgery.



One of the best posts ever, bravo.

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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #69 on: May 26, 2016, 03:50:58 PM »

What are you basing this accusation on.

It is not an accusation, it is a label.

You took the time to reply to my post, but you didn't attempt to answer the question I asked. There must be a reason for this.

It is not very nice to label people. Your mommy probably should have told you not to label people. My mommy told me.

What question?


What are you basing this accusation label on? Where did CDW say he thinks white people are superior to black people?
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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #70 on: May 26, 2016, 04:22:38 PM »
It must be an unfortunate coincidence that minorities suffer from disproportionate incarceration rates, underfunded schools, disproportionate unemployment rates, disproportionate poverty rates and a whole host of other issues.

Nothing systematic about those.

Wat

Asian Americans commit rape and murder at between a third and a sixth as much as non Hispanic white Americans.


Is this because of 'systemic' bias against whites, or because they rape and murder less and than white people do?

Maybe race has nothing to do with it.  It's just that some people are trash and are raised with no value, morals, or convictions.  They hate everyone, have no conscience, and have no qualms about taking or obeying any rules or working for what they have.  You can't judge a person by their race, but by their character.

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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #71 on: May 26, 2016, 04:41:43 PM »

You replied to my post, but you did not attempt to answer any of my questions. Feel free to post your confusing ramblings, but don't quote my post if you have nothing to say to me. You are engaging in sophistry, and your posts make you seem drunk.

I cannot parse this sentence:

"Equal opportunity does not always lead to equal results" is along the lines many who oppose equal opportunities use to justify their views.

I gave my interpretation of what I think the phrase is and the context I've seen it being used in the past.

Some people, who are accustomed to having things in their favour, see equal treatment as discrimination against them.

Take from that what you will...if you still can't comprehend it, your problem.

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Re: How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
« Reply #72 on: May 26, 2016, 04:43:55 PM »

What are you basing this accusation on.

It is not an accusation, it is a label.

You took the time to reply to my post, but you didn't attempt to answer the question I asked. There must be a reason for this.

It is not very nice to label people. Your mommy probably should have told you not to label people. My mommy told me.

What question?


What are you basing this accusation label on? Where did CDW say he thinks white people are superior to black people?

If you aren't going to have a civil conversation then i suppose you don't really want to talk.
Under capitalism, man exploits man.
Under communism, it's just the opposite.
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