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Offline GotMyTowel

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Teaching Elementary Students about #blacklivesmatter
« on: July 11, 2016, 02:17:34 AM »
So I have about 1 week worth of lessons coming up where my co-T has said we can do any topic we choose. I'm considering doing some lessons on current American news stories, and more specifically the #blacklivesmatter movement.

This is my first year in an Elementary school so I wanted to ask if any teachers have covered similar topics before, and how they structured the lessons so that students were engaged but still understood. All planning advice is welcome but please do not turn this into a political debate, there are other threads for that   :smiley: thanks in advance

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Re: Teaching Elementary Students about #blacklivesmatter
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2016, 02:46:30 AM »
S... so that students were engaged but still understood.

I think that they would lack the cultural context for that topic.




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Re: Teaching Elementary Students about #blacklivesmatter
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2016, 10:34:22 AM »
S... so that students were engaged but still understood.

I think that they would lack the cultural context for that topic.

This. I don't think elementary school students are old enough to have the critical faculties to discuss an issue like that, never mind in a second language.



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Re: Teaching Elementary Students about #blacklivesmatter
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2016, 10:41:25 AM »
S... so that students were engaged but still understood.

I think that they would lack the cultural context for that topic.

This. I don't think elementary school students are old enough to have the critical faculties to discuss an issue like that, never mind in a second language.




I'm inclined to agree.  The intention is good, but the age group, and especially as it will be in a foreign language will make this a very hard subject to engage the kids on, even if they understand.   


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Re: Teaching Elementary Students about #blacklivesmatter
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2016, 10:43:21 AM »
Seriously?  Teach that to Korean elementary school kids?  I think I would have to say, NO. Not a good idea, IMO.  So many other subjects more pertinent, fun and interesting to them.  Sounds like something your coworkers might be interested in discussing and hearing your opinions on though.  Open a discussion with them.

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Re: Teaching Elementary Students about #blacklivesmatter
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2016, 10:59:05 AM »
I think that's a great idea, and I've been thinking of using this book.

It's called The girl without a sound and it's by a South African author named Buhle Ngaba.

It's a picture book for girls of all ages, and it's free to download.

I think the sentences might be too hard for my kids, so I'll change it a bit, but the pictures are rad.

Hope it helps. http://www.girlwithoutasound.com/

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Re: Teaching Elementary Students about #blacklivesmatter
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2016, 11:51:55 AM »
S... so that students were engaged but still understood.

I think that they would lack the cultural context for that topic.

This. I don't think elementary school students are old enough to have the critical faculties to discuss an issue like that, never mind in a second language.




I'm inclined to agree.  The intention is good, but the age group, and especially as it will be in a foreign language will make this a very hard subject to engage the kids on, even if they understand.

This above. As an elementary teacher in my 3rd year, I can tell you the students lack the comprehension skills to understand the topic. The current racial climate in the world is an extremely important topic but it is not going to be understood at all by elementary school students. You're going to have some very uninterested students - already English is their second language, so that's hard enough for them.

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Re: Teaching Elementary Students about #blacklivesmatter
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2016, 12:06:27 PM »
 :smiley: thanks for the advice, I'll just find some games/summer lessons to fill the time. Much appreciated.

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Re: Teaching Elementary Students about #blacklivesmatter
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2016, 12:37:36 PM »
:smiley: thanks for the advice, I'll just find some games/summer lessons to fill the time. Much appreciated.

Good luck GotMyTowel! Sorry for the bad news but you'll be okay! Fighting! Let the kiddies enjoy their youth a little more before they realise the world they live  :-[ ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

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Re: Teaching Elementary Students about #blacklivesmatter
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2016, 12:45:40 PM »
S... so that students were engaged but still understood.

I think that they would lack the cultural context for that topic.

This. I don't think elementary school students are old enough to have the critical faculties to discuss an issue like that, never mind in a second language.

OP as much as I want to commend you on your effort to explain tough issues that are going on in the world I really say scrap the idea.  I know I couldn't even do it with my 5th graders.  Heck they laugh at the cartoons in the book of POC no telling what they would say about Phianldo Castile or Sandra Bland.  Seriously it would probably end up me yelling at the kids because they would be either talking while I'm trying to explain.  Saying stupid a** stuff like Africa tika tika or quoting things they heard off of that stupid a** "Show me the Money" Korean hiphop show.  One time I had to stop the lesson and ask "What's so funny" because they kids wouldn't stop laughing at a cartoon character in the book who happened to be black.  Even when I assign roles for the kids to read the parts of the cartoon character who is black, no body wants to be that character.  I seriously stopped my class and asked in all seriousness WHY IS KEVIN (the black character) SO FUNNY.  TELL ME WHY AND TELL ME NOW!!!  Then the kids sat in silence and were like "No teacher no Not funny"  Really because you guys were laughing so hard let you just watched Dumb and Dumber serious WTF?!?!?!   

Yeah I would lose my cool with this class.  So best of luck to you.  These kind of lessons are best reserved for highschool or college kids. 

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Re: Teaching Elementary Students about #blacklivesmatter
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2016, 01:52:28 PM »
Teaching about the Black Lives Matter movement specifically would be difficult as another poster said, the students don't have the critical capabilities or context to understand. What CAN be done however is to teach racial acceptance through other means! There are lots of children's books about these topics!

http://humaneeducation.org/blog/2014/06/26/14-childrens-picture-books-exploring-race-racism/

Again with all these books keep in mind the cultural context the students have to understand. Happy lesson planning! You got this!

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Re: Teaching Elementary Students about #blacklivesmatter
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2016, 02:42:30 PM »
How about #alllivesmatter? As good as your intentions are, you have to be realistic. East Asians don't give a f**k about problems back in America. Don't forget to teach them that it's an extremist, emotionally driven group by a bunch of entitled individuals who's answer to everything wrong in the black community is "das rasis" and "cuz white people.This white guilt crap syndrome is easily cured by growing a pair of balls and getting over yourself.  >:(

The blm movement is too ignorant to realize the problems in the black community aren't because of racial profiling by police and the death of two men, but the problem lies within themselves and the black community. It's not whitey.

 https://www.facebook.com/BadgeCams/videos#

http://fox61.com/2015/10/29/mans-facebook-post-about-traffic-stop-goes-viral/?share=facebook&nb=1
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Re: Teaching Elementary Students about #blacklivesmatter
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2016, 03:11:58 PM »
I think this lesson could be done if your students have

1. Very high level of English.  I'm talking they can express themselves fully and not in broken sentences. 

2. They are mature 6th graders.  When I worked at a hakwon I had the opportunity to work with some VERY VERY intelligent and mature 6 grade girls.  They were very worldly  (travel outside of Korea often) and their English was superb.  (They were CDI students after all,  so they came to my English hakwon and that hakwon as well.)  I was able to have a lesson about global terrorism with them and how it effects the lives of normal everyday Muslims.  It was probably one of the most rewarding and simulating lessons I ever had.  And the girls came away with a better understand of how radical groups were not the same as normal worshipers. 

Only under these circumstances you could attempt a lesson about this but it would have to be simplified and not get too complex.   Even explaining 9/11 was a very complex issue because I had to explain why the US was targeted to begin with. 

But if your students have VERY POOR ENGLISH SKILLS AND you can see they are very immature to begin with THAN DON'T EVEN WASTE YOUR ENGERY OR BREATH.  Seriously I once did a powerpoint presentation about my wonderful vacation to Egypt and I had some little 6th grade snot kept saying ISIS, ISIS,ISIS the whole time.  I was only showing pictures of food, the people, and the pyramids and this dumba** kept saying "EVERYONE ISIS"  It really worked my nerves I told him to go stand outside till class was over because he kept disrupting the presentation.  Mind you my presentation wasn't a huge history lesson.  I even played a game in the end where the kids had to write numbers in Arabic.  For those who appreciated it, they had a good time  ;D

I WOULD NOT DO A Blacklivesmatter lesson with any grade under 6th.  It's too scary and complex.  And showing VIDEOS ARE OUT OF THE QUESTION IN MY OPINION! 
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Re: Teaching Elementary Students about #blacklivesmatter
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2016, 04:07:41 PM »
So I have about 1 week worth of lessons coming up where my co-T has said we can do any topic we choose. I'm considering doing some lessons on current American news stories, and more specifically the #blacklivesmatter movement.

This is my first year in an Elementary school so I wanted to ask if any teachers have covered similar topics before, and how they structured the lessons so that students were engaged but still understood. All planning advice is welcome but please do not turn this into a political debate, there are other threads for that   :smiley: thanks in advance

In my opinion, elementary kids are not strong enough in English or just in the world to learn about this.  BLM is hard enough for North American adults to grasp let alone Korean children.  There is a whole history that they have no understanding of.  instead you could teach them about diversity or if you really wanted to you could talk about american history but I think that trying to teach them about BLM at their level is a little like throwing them into the ocean in the middle of a storm.
« Last Edit: July 11, 2016, 04:09:54 PM by nadinea »

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Re: Teaching Elementary Students about #blacklivesmatter
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2016, 04:09:52 PM »
I think that there is already enough racism in Korea without introducing Korean kids to a group of racists who are obsessed with skin colour, and dedicated to making race relations worse.

If you are so preoccupied with skin colour yourself that you want to plan a lesson about it, there are plenty of role models who speak about the need to get over race and stop using 'racism' as an opportunity for people to virtue signal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2d2SzRZvsQ

Race is apparently such a non issue in the USA that BLM need to fake racist tweets.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/woman-admits-tweeting-fake-threats-fellow-black-students-204320195.html

You want to teach your students about this group? Why not the KKK?
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Re: Teaching Elementary Students about #blacklivesmatter
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2016, 12:57:58 PM »
You work in Korea
You aren't in the USA

Elementary students in Korea do not have the cultural background, English language skills, or applicability to their every day lives to be learning this from a foreign teacher in their language learning class.

You should do your job or go back to the USA

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Re: Teaching Elementary Students about #blacklivesmatter
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2016, 01:04:30 PM »
Talk about hammering the point home. He admitted it was a crap idea eight posts ago.

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Re: Teaching Elementary Students about #blacklivesmatter
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2016, 02:34:34 PM »
I think that's a great idea, and I've been thinking of using this book.

It's called The girl without a sound and it's by a South African author named Buhle Ngaba.

It's a picture book for girls of all ages, and it's free to download.

I think the sentences might be too hard for my kids, so I'll change it a bit, but the pictures are rad.

Hope it helps. http://www.girlwithoutasound.com/

Thanks for this! I was going to get a hard copy when I went home.

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Re: Teaching Elementary Students about #blacklivesmatter
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2016, 03:16:20 PM »
Don't do politics to elementary kids.  They won't get it.  Kids will go home tell their parents and some may not want it.  Avoid politics in the classroom.  Maybe high school or university or some adult classes are ok.  But, younger kids won't get it. 

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Re: Teaching Elementary Students about #blacklivesmatter
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2016, 03:40:32 PM »
Your heart is in the right place but as others have said, it wouldn't work. Even a few supposed adults with all the context in the world at their fingertips so wildly miss the mark when it comes to BLM, as evidenced by a few sad responses in this thread. Thanks to other people posting resources for involving some sense of diversity in the classroom though.

I have heard a few adult Koreans talking about the matter in sensitive and smart ways. Some people here are actually interested and well aware of racism and white supremacy in America. It was a nice surprise!

 

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