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Re: Manchester United
« Reply #80 on: August 14, 2016, 06:22:55 PM »
if you're okay with watching the match after it has been played, this sub-reddit is great
it's also great for MOTD

http://www.reddit.com/r/footballhighlights/

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Re: Manchester United
« Reply #81 on: August 14, 2016, 11:31:11 PM »
PL games are shown almost every weekend (weeknights too for mid week games)...the problem is whenever a Korean player is on the teamsheet, his club's game take priority over every other PL game, unless there is another PL game with another Korean player going on, then they show highlights of that game during the one they are showing.

Another issue, baseball season tends to overlap the start of PL season, so if a PL game is scheduled to show after a baseball game, and the baseball game goes into overtime or is delayed...guess who gets priority? Last season was actually not too bad, as the broadcasters had the decency (once or twice) to shift over the PL game to another channel in the event of a baseball game running overtime, but it doesn't happen often enough, especially when multiple channels are showing the same baseball game.

Overall I'd give Korean coverage of PL a B-. If you can't catch your game live, there's a 99% chance you'll be able to watch the full match in about 2-4hrs...the problem is that first post match broadcast tends to happen between 4-7am.

SHOCK!!!  SBSSports has just cut away from showing the 9th innings of a baseball game to show the Man U(re) bournmouth match.  Progress!!!

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Re: Manchester United
« Reply #82 on: August 15, 2016, 10:01:06 AM »
Progress!

Decent game, albeit against probably the worst or 2nd worst team in the league.

Finally good to once again see a United defender beasting it and getting cracking tackles in...can't wait to see a Smalling-Baily pairing.

Smalling dominates strikers in the league for the most part, but lacks the aggression Baily displayed yesterday.

Zlatan needs no introduction or commentary...simply Zlatan time!

Martial looks like he's suffering from the effects of the Euros...hopefully second season syndrome doesn't hit him too bad.

Herrera, Fellaini and Mata looked lively, much more than last season...but we need more pace on and off the ball.

Rooney - scored, but still poor touch, getting slower by the minute, I'd be surprised if he plays more than Pogback this season.

Shaw and Tony V put in decent shifts...Valencia looks like he might have a beast of a season. I certainly hope so!

Biggest positive is the team are actually taking shots! We had more shots in the first 45 mins than we did during entire months of last season!

Hopefully more to come!

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Re: Manchester United
« Reply #83 on: May 25, 2017, 01:14:11 PM »
Why couldn't United have lost yesterday?  I don't hate them as much as I did yonks ago, but having Mourinho as their manager makes them sooooooo effing unlikeable.  Boring shit football and add in his miserable, defensive rambles after the game. 

If they'd lost they would have had a shockingly bad season.  As it is, their whole season was saved by victory yesterday.   :sad:  Juankers!

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Re: Manchester United
« Reply #84 on: May 25, 2017, 02:51:35 PM »
Hated, adored...but never ignored!

All in all a disappointing season...at least half of those draws should've been wins if the strikers had been more clinical.

Apart from he who shall dare to Zlatan...our strikers were a shambles this season. Rashford and Martial as inside forwards are great talents, but we still don't have a presence in the box when the big man isn't there or is having an off day.

Rooney hopefully is GONE now that he's gotten his record, leaving space for ideally 2 consistent finishers to replace him. My ideal would be Lukaku and Griezmann.

Pogz and Herrera might need an extra partner in the middle if Fellaini and/or carrick are let go (at least one of them needs to go anyway)...no idea which viable candidates would be available but one can have faint dreams of veratti and someone from real.

Defensively, I'd say we're actually ok. Phil Jones might have to make way for someone who isn't semi-permanently attached to crutches, but he still puts in solid performances when not injured.

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Re: Manchester United
« Reply #85 on: May 25, 2017, 02:58:37 PM »
Hated, adored...but never ignored!

All in all a disappointing season...at least half of those draws should've been wins if the strikers had been more clinical.

Apart from he who shall dare to Zlatan...our strikers were a shambles this season. Rashford and Martial as inside forwards are great talents, but we still don't have a presence in the box when the big man isn't there or is having an off day.

Rooney hopefully is GONE now that he's gotten his record, leaving space for ideally 2 consistent finishers to replace him. My ideal would be Lukaku and Griezmann.

Pogz and Herrera might need an extra partner in the middle if Fellaini and/or carrick are let go (at least one of them needs to go anyway)...no idea which viable candidates would be available but one can have faint dreams of veratti and someone from real.

Defensively, I'd say we're actually ok. Phil Jones might have to make way for someone who isn't semi-permanently attached to crutches, but he still puts in solid performances when not injured.

I would have no problem with United, it is just Mourinho.

I expect De Gea is finally off to Madrid, but Romero seems a good replacement.  Contrast Rooney's finish to the end of Terry and his puke-inducing exit.  Wow!  What a tool!

I don't think United have bad players, it is just they get a goal and then it is shutup shop.  Mourinho did it at Chelsea and is doing it again.  If you can't win, then don't lose.  It is a stupid tactic and that is shown by his 16 or so draws this season in the league.  Horrible drab football with a team who can do so much more......but he won't let them.  I doubt he's gonna change next year.

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Re: Manchester United
« Reply #86 on: May 25, 2017, 03:14:35 PM »
Hated, adored...but never ignored!

All in all a disappointing season...at least half of those draws should've been wins if the strikers had been more clinical.

disappointing? it hasn't been the greatest but United have 2 trophies to put in the cabinet, and champion's league qualification to go with it.

City won nothing, Liverpool won nothing, Tottenham won nothing, and Arsenal will probably win nothing (i can't see them beating Chelsea in the FA cup final) and won't even be in the champion's league next season.

United really haven't done that badly when you think about it.

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Re: Manchester United
« Reply #87 on: May 25, 2017, 04:14:40 PM »
Hated, adored...but never ignored!

All in all a disappointing season...at least half of those draws should've been wins if the strikers had been more clinical.

disappointing? it hasn't been the greatest but United have 2 trophies to put in the cabinet, and champion's league qualification to go with it.

City won nothing, Liverpool won nothing, Tottenham won nothing, and Arsenal will probably win nothing (i can't see them beating Chelsea in the FA cup final) and won't even be in the champion's league next season.

United really haven't done that badly when you think about it.

It really was all about last night.  Lose and they'd have one trophy and no Champions League games.  Win, as they did, and they got three things.  It really was the make or break for them. 

The Premier League is funny now, apart from its corporate shite.  Top four is a bonus, and you have the winners in the league, and the two cups.  There is also how far you can get in Europe before some ref favours Real Madrid and dumps you out of the contest unfairly  :undecided:  Now in England you have six or so teams that can technically beat each other on any given day.  More competitive than Spain where it is just Barca and Madrid.  Bar the year Atletico won a few years back, the past ten years has been those two with a massive points gap (sometimes up to 15 or 25 points) to third place.  I don't doubt the Spanish team's ability, I do doubt how competitive their league is. 

As an Arsenal fan, it will be interesting to see how they do next season.  I think a year of no Europe was good for Chelsea and Liverpool, so we'll see how they do next year with the extra stuff.  There is only a finite number of top spots and winners and with more teams getting tv cash and being competitive, next year will be more interesting. 

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Re: Manchester United
« Reply #88 on: May 25, 2017, 05:40:18 PM »
Ive only seen managers take gambles like Mou has in sports movies.

It was risky and could have been a dumb move but he did it. UTD is back in the champions league after just a single season with MOU.
Im hoping English teams make a big impact next year as whole since England is in danger of losing the 4ht qualifying spot.

Well done UTD!!!

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« Reply #89 on: May 25, 2017, 06:39:05 PM »
If United had gotten top 4 AND won the UEFA cup, I'd have said we had a successful season.

The best thing about this season (apart from last night), is the smooth transfer of talismanic presence from Rooney to Pogba/Zlatan.

I've always respected Mourinho's talent as a manager, but hated him at Chelsea for obvious reasons. He needs to build on this season though...anything but the league next season will be classed as a failure (bar winning the CL).

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Re: Manchester United
« Reply #90 on: May 25, 2017, 06:55:26 PM »
If United had gotten top 4 AND won the UEFA cup, I'd have said we had a successful season.

The best thing about this season (apart from last night), is the smooth transfer of talismanic presence from Rooney to Pogba/Zlatan.

I've always respected Mourinho's talent as a manager, but hated him at Chelsea for obvious reasons. He needs to build on this season though...anything but the league next season will be classed as a failure (bar winning the CL).

I wouldnt go that far to say that we should be where we were during the fergie era.
For me a quarter final finish and top 3 would be a success next year and following year should definitely be a league winning year.

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Re: Manchester United
« Reply #91 on: May 25, 2017, 06:56:08 PM »
If United had gotten top 4 AND won the UEFA cup, I'd have said we had a successful season.

The best thing about this season (apart from last night), is the smooth transfer of talismanic presence from Rooney to Pogba/Zlatan.

I've always respected Mourinho's talent as a manager, but hated him at Chelsea for obvious reasons. He needs to build on this season though...anything but the league next season will be classed as a failure (bar winning the CL).

There is that stat that he has always won the league in the second season in whichever country he's been in.  Next year, will be mental.  Chelsea and Spurs are going to be stronger, and I think Guardiola got a shock this year from the premier league but when he has players like Sane (what a player!) in your team, things will happen.  For United to win the league would be a miracle.  Mourinho is still a massive cnut though. 

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« Reply #92 on: May 25, 2017, 07:13:13 PM »
Fergie was a bigger cnut than Mourine IMO...and united fans loved him for it. Better for JM to be our cnut as long as we're winning  :laugh:

The reason I said next year has to be a league winning year (or a very unlikely CL) is that the club will finally get rid of the last of the "deadwood" that's been holding us back since 2013...not to mention another summer of muppetry level spending from Woodward.

I'd say we'd have been top 2 or top 3 this season...if we had just scored 6-8 extra goals in those 15 draws.

The team is becoming better at shutting games out though. We just don't have the consistency to play the swash-bucking counter attacking football Rooney/Nani/Ronald/Tevez gave us during those magnificent years...hopefully Martial and Rashford will continue to push their ceiling higher and higher.

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« Reply #93 on: May 25, 2017, 07:53:42 PM »
I don't think there is deadwood there, I think it is Mourinho's negative tactics.  He has Mata, Mtkyharian?, Pogba, along with Rashford, Herrera and a few others, there is decent core there.  I think for what Zlatan added, he also took something away as he was slow and ponderous.  You can't plan to draw 15 games and score less goals than Bournemouth over the year.  Either you are unlucky for the whole season, or you're scapegoating all your players for the fact you messed up.  It is impossible to be unlucky the whole season, the table doesn't lie.  Valencia, Bailly, Pogba, Mytktktkakrian, Rashford, Mata, Herrara are a decent set.  You just have to let them play their natural game.

Mourinho wasn't that smart, he realised in April that he wasn't going to get top three and so then decided to go for the Europa.  Now he can take it easy in the summer with no qualifying.  Will be interesting if he gets Griezmann, mind.

From match of the day, I can't believe Giroud didn't get goal of the season. :evil:



That is the best goal I've seen since Trevor Sinclair's all those years ago.






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Re: Manchester United
« Reply #94 on: May 25, 2017, 08:37:21 PM »
Rooney has been a massive deadweight on the team for about 3 years now, both in terms of wages and a spot in the team.

Young is also on massive wages he wouldn't get elsewhere. We've been ridiculously unlucky this season in some games where the keeper suddenly decided to play as if his life depended on it, in addition to our young strikers being inconsistent with their finishing.

This reminds me of 2005-06 with Rooney and Ronaldo pissed a lot of people at the club with their inability to score but the manager kept his faith in them and sold  ruud, which they repaid the next season.


 

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