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Re: NEAT books and resources
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2012, 11:16:02 AM »
My school bought the whole set of Bricks NEAT test prep books. I actually ended up not using them for my camp because my students' levels were just too high. Anyways they seem pretty good. They're divided up into the different skills (reading, listening, speaking and writing) and there are two or three levels for each skill.

https://www.ebricks.co.kr/book/booklist.php?bookGubun=Series&bookCode=010342

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Re: NEAT books and resources
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2012, 10:19:35 AM »
I taught a NEAT after school class last semester and did some extensive research/agonizing over which books to buy, seeing as how there's an entire bookshelf devoted to NEAT books at Kyobo.  ??? My favorite ones are the "Really NEAT" series, but I also have "The NEAT Essential" and those are good too. No matter what ones you get, you'll probably have to do some modifying on your own, since all of the books out there are self-study-oriented, not textbooks meant for the classroom.

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Re: NEAT books and resources
« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2012, 01:13:09 PM »
My school has this file. 

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Re: NEAT books and resources
« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2012, 03:07:06 PM »
I finally had a chance to scan and upload my co-teacher's papers on NEAT. They do not belong to any copyrighted book or anything, they were just a bunch of photocopies she was given by another teacher, including graph and picture description.

The file is legible and able to be used, however our scanner is very old so some parts are not top quality images.

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Re: NEAT books and resources
« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2012, 11:53:03 AM »
These resources have been so helpful thanks! here's some pictures and not what that I found on the interwebs

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Re: NEAT books and resources
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2012, 11:55:33 AM »
and some more. Obviously some are much better than others, but your students might be of lower ability than mine

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Re: NEAT books and resources
« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2012, 01:20:15 PM »
My co-teacher sent me these image files of NEAT questions, specifically focussing on chart and graph descriptions. I cannot say what the source is since they were given to her by another teacher as well.


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Re: NEAT books and resources
« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2012, 02:04:46 PM »
I have been told to start teaching the NEAT books to my middle school boys. First lesson of it today, so here's my attempt at a beginning. They don't have the textbook, as it isn't their school book, I have one set of books, so I am going to put most of the pictures and exercises on ppt or printouts for them. Here's some of the pictures from my Grade 1 book if it's helpful for you.

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Has Your School Started Talking About Implementing NEAT?
« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2013, 12:43:05 PM »
I'm sure they have, but I mean have they started talking about it in more detail?  Are they going to use you to get the students ready for it?  If not, have you been proactive about how you could be a part of it?  I have a month left here, so I'm trying to think of ways to be useful while I deskwarm today. 

If I saw my kids more often and in smaller groups, I would assign journals or even little books or articles to read. I think I could do articles - realia - but I just want my lessons to matter more to them and get them more invested.

Any ideas or accounts would be helpful.

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Re: Has Your School Started Talking About Implementing NEAT?
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2013, 11:45:43 AM »
Maybe, but my position was eliminated with the GEPIK cuts, so it's kind of moot in my situation at least. For this semester I'm planning on doing the same-old, same-old with my second graders.

I did have a group of special students that I was preparing special NEAT lessons for. Chances are they will never take it anyways (I think this years first graders start taking it).

However, If you want to prepare them for the NEAT though, my suggestions are:

1) find some way to teach them how to write essays. I don't think they ever really learn how to write one (even in Korean) and some of the Korean teachers don't really know how either.

2) get them to do some kind of extensive reading activities or other activities to increase their reading speed (maybe timed reading activities).

The speaking portion is piss easy, so you can just work in some activities as you see fit. The only hard part is maybe the "giving advice" section of the test.

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Re: Has Your School Started Talking About Implementing NEAT?
« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2013, 12:06:33 PM »

We started last semester. My head teacher had me sit down with one of the certified teachers to ask questions about the speaking/writing part of the exam and how it works and how to score it. Then, I started giving NEAT practice exams once a month to students who volunteered. They would get some extra points for doing it. I also started using some the stuff in my classes, having them write more summaries, make storyboards to describe the pictures, have them create graphs and describe them, and ask them random questions.

My school bought the computer software for giving the NEAT practice exam. So, this coming semester, I will score all of these practice exams for the students. I'm pretty sure, only the speaking section. I HOPE SO. I'll also continue working with NEAT-like stuff in my classroom and Saturday school.

Also, keep in mind, there a difference between NEAT 2 and NEAT 3 (Neat  1 is not available yet). Simply put, NEAT 3 is for those who may come from technical HS. On this one, I think the advice giving it pretty tough as the studentsÂ’ levels may be a little lower. NEAT 2 is for everyone else graduating from HS. The most difficult part of this one is describing a graph using more, less, most, and least. These can be real tough. Even though NEAT 2 and 3 share similar types of questions, the length of the response is different. NEAT 2 requires more depth while NEAT 3 may only require a 1 sentence response. When NEAT 1 is complete, it will be for professionals.  There I a chance that your students will have to take it, maybe just not in HS. It may be when they are about to enter the workforce.

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Re: Has Your School Started Talking About Implementing NEAT?
« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2013, 12:14:00 PM »
I know a couple of schools who've been using it as part of a trial run it but no one in my school has said anything about it at all. The NETs who were using the stuff said it was good for the students because they had to practically apply their knowledge but they said graphs threw the students a little and their reading comprehension needed a lot of work because it wasn't in-depth enough.

Having said that, I should point out that the only reason I know about NEAT is through other NETs and that I never know anything that goes on in my school. I'm not even sure what text books we'll be using this semester.

I do know that Neat 1 starts this year.
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Re: High School - NEAT Books, Resources, Questions, Advice
« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2013, 12:25:42 PM »
I was asked to spend 5-10 minutes per class practicing NEAT style activities. I would make up my own questions based on the activities in The NEAT Essential test, and include 1-2 slides to practice it as well as a small handout for all the students to put into their notebooks. I'll attach an example. I wouldn't spend more than 5 minutes on it; the students had to look at the  chart/picture and answer 3 questions on it. There are only a few basic patterns for them to get used to int he Speaking text, so it's pretty easy to make stuff up. I always did it related to the topic of my class that day.

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Re: Has Your School Started Talking About Implementing NEAT?
« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2013, 03:29:26 PM »
Maybe, but my position was eliminated with the GEPIK cuts, so it's kind of moot in my situation at least. For this semester I'm planning on doing the same-old, same-old with my second graders.

I did have a group of special students that I was preparing special NEAT lessons for. Chances are they will never take it anyways (I think this years first graders start taking it).

However, If you want to prepare them for the NEAT though, my suggestions are:

1) find some way to teach them how to write essays. I don't think they ever really learn how to write one (even in Korean) and some of the Korean teachers don't really know how either.

2) get them to do some kind of extensive reading activities or other activities to increase their reading speed (maybe timed reading activities).

The speaking portion is piss easy, so you can just work in some activities as you see fit. The only hard part is maybe the "giving advice" section of the test.

My position is also eliminated.  I only have a month left, but I do want to make it count and help improve the system at my school.  But, that's the problem - I only have a month. And, as I said before, I only see these kids once a week, unless something changes.

Your ideas are good though.  I did similar things at a private elementary school.  I'm actually rather proud of a "Video game console comparison" worksheet that I made about the Wii, 360 and PS3.  I don't have it on hand, but I'll upload if I can find it.
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Re: Has Your School Started Talking About Implementing NEAT?
« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2013, 03:33:38 PM »

We started last semester. My head teacher had me sit down with one of the certified teachers to ask questions about the speaking/writing part of the exam and how it works and how to score it. Then, I started giving NEAT practice exams once a month to students who volunteered. They would get some extra points for doing it. I also started using some the stuff in my classes, having them write more summaries, make storyboards to describe the pictures, have them create graphs and describe them, and ask them random questions.

My school bought the computer software for giving the NEAT practice exam. So, this coming semester, I will score all of these practice exams for the students. I'm pretty sure, only the speaking section. I HOPE SO. I'll also continue working with NEAT-like stuff in my classroom and Saturday school.

Also, keep in mind, there a difference between NEAT 2 and NEAT 3 (Neat  1 is not available yet). Simply put, NEAT 3 is for those who may come from technical HS. On this one, I think the advice giving it pretty tough as the studentsÂ’ levels may be a little lower. NEAT 2 is for everyone else graduating from HS. The most difficult part of this one is describing a graph using more, less, most, and least. These can be real tough. Even though NEAT 2 and 3 share similar types of questions, the length of the response is different. NEAT 2 requires more depth while NEAT 3 may only require a 1 sentence response. When NEAT 1 is complete, it will be for professionals.  There I a chance that your students will have to take it, maybe just not in HS. It may be when they are about to enter the workforce.

Thanks for the NEAT description. I had no idea.  I'll have more to bring to the teachers' meeting, should it happen.

Those are good ideas as well.  With school supposedly starting Monday, I hope my cp-teachers don't wait too long to get things going.  Lol, what am I saying?  Where am I?  :P
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Re: Has Your School Started Talking About Implementing NEAT?
« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2013, 03:38:56 PM »

Having said that, I should point out that the only reason I know about NEAT is through other NETs and that I never know anything that goes on in my school. I'm not even sure what text books we'll be using this semester.


Tell me about it.  Now that I type this, I've realized that the meeting I've been waiting for is probably going on - without me.  They don't really want me involved, I think.  I'm leaving in a month, so I'm sure they conveniently forgot to tell me...

EDIT: Turns out that I was exactly right.
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