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High School - NEAT Books, Resources, Questions, Advice
« on: August 06, 2012, 11:00:54 AM »
Help please! My co teacher came and asked me to prepare over 30 different practice questions for NEAT (in 3 different sections). Does anybody out there have any materials they have made/found that I could have? I'd love you forever. Thanks
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Re: HELP ME!! Please
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2012, 11:12:22 AM »
Ugh. NEAT. Yet another new program that we need to familiarize ourselves with.

I think my coteacher has a few things at school. I'm going there tomorrow so I can see what there is, if you can wait that long.

Here is a starting point until then, which gives a break-down of the NEAT focus areas: 
https://sites.google.com/site/southkoreaneducation/home/english-education-in-south-korea/national-english-ability-test

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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2012, 11:30:32 AM »
Was just doing a little searching for you and came across this which has a link to some sample questions!  ;D

http://blog.english-team.com/2011/10/01/new-tests-for-the-neat-national-english-ability-test/

And this is from a Korean self-study book for NEAT, which gives you an idea of vocabulary and topic ares (Writing Level 3):
Part 1 Selective Picture Description with Given Words 선택형 그림 묘사하기
Unit 1 Recommending & Suggesting
Useful Expressions & Exercise
Essential Structures & Exercise
Step 1
Step 2
Challenge

Unit 2 Refusing & Declining
Useful Expressions & Exercise
Essential Structures & Exercise
Step 1
Step 2
Challenge

Mini Test
Translate


Part 2 One-picture Description 그림 세부 묘사 완성하기
Unit 3 Describing a Picture Ι
Useful Expressions & Exercise
Essential Structures & Exercise
Step 1
Step 2
Challenge

Unit 4 Describing a Picture Ⅱ
Useful Expressions & Exercise
Essential Structures & Exercise
Step 1
Step 2
Challenge

Mini Test
Translate
Part 3 Letter Writing 편지 쓰기
Unit 5 Inviting & Announcing
Useful Expressions & Exercise
Essential Structures & Exercise
Step 1
Step 2
Challenge

Unit 6 Confirming & Advising
Useful Expressions & Exercise
Essential Structures & Exercise
Step 1
Step 2
Challenge

Mini Test
Translate


Part 4 Two-picture Description and Inference 그림 묘사 및 추론하여 글쓰기
Unit 7 Describing & Inferring Ι
Useful Expressions & Exercise
Essential Structures & Exercise
Step 1
Step 2
Challenge

Unit 8 Describing & Inferring Ⅱ
Useful Expressions & Exercise
Essential Structures & Exercise
Step 1
Step 2
Challenge

And another few sample questions (scroll down):
http://nexusedu.kr/files/book/NEAT_Reading2.pdf

http://www.google.co.kr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=30&ved=0CF4QFjAJOBQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linguaforum.com%2FWeb%2F_Common%2Fdownload.aspx%3FFileName%3DSample%2BUnit.pdf%26Folder%3DBoard%255Cnotice&ei=SA0fUI7HH8bJiwLcroHoDw&usg=AFQjCNGW-P4cUPa6c3v7jyoHakwLtVzP8A&sig2=TiVI69fFQ-yxSwI0s9VSvw


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Re: HELP ME!! Please
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2012, 11:33:44 AM »
Thanks so much! Yes shhowse I can definitely wait, I have until Thursday. Really just wanting to get it done today/tomorrow so I don't have it hanging over me all week!

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Re: HELP ME!! Please
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2012, 01:56:58 PM »
I've looked through those links you guys gave me, unfortunately they're not what I'm looking for. We're looking for the speaking parts. Explaining pictures, cartoon strips etc. Any further help is greatly appreciated

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Re: HELP ME!! Please
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2012, 06:06:36 PM »
Sorry James, but I was unable to get a hold of anything that would be quick and easy to send to you. My co-teacher has a bunch of workbooks but I was only at school for a few minutes, and didn't have time to scan and send whole books.  If you had a longer time to work on it I could help you out but your deadline is approaching too quickly, and I'm going on vacation now.

Sorry I couldn't help more!


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Re: HELP ME!! Please
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2012, 11:52:20 AM »
James, I did a speaking test a few months ago with my high school students, I came across this but my teachers wouldn't let me use it. I think it might be what you are looking for.  :)

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Re: HELP ME!! Please
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2012, 01:44:07 PM »
No problem enjoy your vacation! I certainly will once it starts on Friday!

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NEAT books and resources
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2012, 01:50:10 PM »
Hi again.

Does anybody have any resources that can be used to prepare students for NEAT. Specifically my school has asked me to find picutres, cartoons etc that can be used for speaking.

I suggested buying some books, but unfortunately I don't know any good titles. My google searching didn't prove to be fruitful either. Does anybody know any good titles?

I will post any materials I do find on here for other people to use to!

Thanks

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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2012, 03:19:58 PM »
My school has the books and I have some questionably legal audio files for NEAT here is a brief ppt I made based on some of the questions NEAT presents to students.  Also included is a massive list of TOIEC questions basically an advanced cousin of NEAT.

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« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2012, 12:20:21 AM »
Ugh. NEAT. Yet another new program that we need to familiarize ourselves with.

I wouldn't be too "ugh" about it --NEAT makes NETs relevant.  Students don't learn English because it's a wonderful language that they just love to use when playing with their NET teacher or that will make them more whole or whatever -- it's all about the test and the test hasn't been updated to reflect the supposed communicative syllabus that the gov/representatives purport to have successfully implemented. 

What we do is not currently important nor are we no matter how wonderful we think we are as teachers or how important we believe ourselves to be because we have solid command of English (first language is actually kind of easy).  You know those newspaper reports about how parents believe that students learn better from their KETs?  Well - they do, though that's no fault of ours: KETs drill students in translation exercises and explicitly teach grammar points in the students' first language which is what they need for the current test to get into uni/have careers, etc.

With NEAT, students will learn to use English but only as a byproduct of test prep (realism: how often do/will students use English?  With you?  In your classroom?  Students don't need to know how to speak English save for passing their tests but NEAT is a test that when prepped for will actually improve students' ability to use the language).

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OP: if you have to write your own questions, attached are a couple documents related to the test.  The rater system should give you a pretty good idea about what will be expected.  The KICE document is gov fluff related to the test

If you have to make your own prompts, something that you might try is to download comic images that have potential to be relevant to whatever grammar points/vocabulary sets that your students are learning and post them in ppt slides or on worksheets and ask your students to write X number of words/speak for X number of seconds/give a coherent answer to whatever non-display question (i.e. a question without an absolute answer) using whatever grammar point/vocab words the students have learned/are learning.

straight speaking example: comparatives - ranking importance of personal issues with a little bit of why

As an aside, up in the thread it was mentioned that someone's CT had said no to a speaking test.  A possible explanation and what will be a potential issue for the NEAT test is that it's hard for teachers to test students on this sort of stuff (coherent, relevant use of the language/sociolinguistic knowledge for second language speakers) either because of limited language ability or because classes are too big and it would just take too much time.  That prob has also likely contributed to it having taken this long to release this test (and we don't even know yet if it'll replace the Eng portion of the CSAT/KSAT, whatever)

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Re: HELP ME!! Please
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2012, 12:37:52 AM »
bunch of pictures ripped from other sites.. chop/edit them if they help

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« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2012, 12:38:25 AM »
and they're mostly unsorted this is just a folder that i've kept loaded with ppts w/ images

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« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2012, 12:41:16 AM »
and another group of images that i've used.. chop/edit away if they're helpful

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Re: HELP ME!! Please
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2012, 07:25:05 AM »
If it's alright, I'll be moving this to the lesson plan section, but will wait to ensure the OP finds what he's looking for at the moment.
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Re: NEAT books and resources
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2012, 11:21:03 AM »
I have only been able to find 2 series locally (small town) but the ones I use are:

1) The NEAT Essentail published by Neungyule Education
2) Really NEAT published by Darakwon (www.darakwon.co.kr)

As far as pictures, I have used Garfield and also www.stickscomic.com

Hopefully that helps you a little~ Good luck!

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Re: HELP ME!! Please
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2012, 11:34:30 AM »
Wow thanks so much guys! Yes you can move the thread :)

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« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2012, 01:00:18 AM »
Ugh. NEAT. Yet another new program that we need to familiarize ourselves with.

I wouldn't be too "ugh" about it --NEAT makes NETs relevant.  Students don't learn English because it's a wonderful language that they just love to use when playing with their NET teacher or that will make them more whole or whatever -- it's all about the test and the test hasn't been updated to reflect the supposed communicative syllabus that the gov/representatives purport to have successfully implemented. 

What we do is not currently important nor are we no matter how wonderful we think we are as teachers or how important we believe ourselves to be because we have solid command of English (first language is actually kind of easy).  You know those newspaper reports about how parents believe that students learn better from their KETs?  Well - they do, though that's no fault of ours: KETs drill students in translation exercises and explicitly teach grammar points in the students' first language which is what they need for the current test to get into uni/have careers, etc.

With NEAT, students will learn to use English but only as a byproduct of test prep (realism: how often do/will students use English?  With you?  In your classroom?  Students don't need to know how to speak English save for passing their tests but NEAT is a test that when prepped for will actually improve students' ability to use the language).

Thank you, JonnyH, for that tirade, but I am well aware for my roll in the Korean education system and the importance and intent of the NEAT; However, I am entitled to my opinion about it, which I don't feel the need to explain to you. I'm a little taken aback by your post, but I'll leave it at that and just say I appreciate you adding those valuable materials to help out the OP. Hopefully over time, as we all use this system more, more people can add to this helpful thread.

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« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2012, 11:10:19 AM »
Recently for my summer camp I used the "NEAT Bite" books. There's a different book for each skill so I took them through the Speaking book while my coteacher took them through the others. It's split into units and after teaching them some vocab and phrases they then use that language to talk about what's happening in the pictures. At the end of each unit there's a series of 6 pictures they have to make up a story for using the language they've learned. I thought it was excellent and the students enjoyed it as the content was very up to date and fun. There are a few listening activities included that I just left out to concentrate on the speaking.

You could get your school to order the speaking book for you and just photocopy the parts you need. It comes in 3 levels, I used level two with my 3rd grade middle school students (their speaking level is quite high).

http://www.teensup.com/pages/search/search_unity.asp

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« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2012, 08:22:19 PM »
Here are a couple of worksheets that I found on ISLcollective. I hope that they are helpful to you.

http://en.islcollective.com/worksheets/worksheet_page?id=20552


http://en.islcollective.com/worksheets/worksheet_page?id=11875

 

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