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Conversation versus Bookwork-- Which one do YOU focus on?
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andyduong411
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Conversation versus Bookwork-- Which one do YOU focus on?
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April 19, 2011, 10:42:12 AM »
So Ive noticed from a lot of teacher's posts on their materials for their classes that they focus a lot on bookwork and grammar. Like literally taking sentences from the book and making fill in the gap exercises for their students despite the irrelevancy of many of the book's topics to conversational english. (One lesson in my book talks about "animal senses" in detecting natural diasters- how many of those conversations have YOU had in your lifetime?)
Plus many teacher's lessons focus a lot on grammar and writing. Like intensely focused where the students do worksheets and only speak minimally. Am I missing something???
I'd like to know how much speaking students do in YOUR class, and how much bookwork/fill in worksheets comparatively.. 50/50? 60/40?
This is for me to objectively evaluate my teaching style. Thank you!
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monssfisch
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April 19, 2011, 10:47:14 AM »
I'd say it's around 70/30 for me. I think some bookwork is necessary especially for lower level students as it makes it clear what is expected of them in the lesson. I'd take a speaking activity or a game where students have to communicate with each other over a fill-in-the-worksheet activity every time. My co-teacher uses handouts almost exclusively and most students are unable to retain some, if any of the material that is on them.
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S.Lee
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April 19, 2011, 10:48:04 AM »
I usually do both
depending on the level of the class i might have more speaking or more writing but i tend to give a worksheet go to along with any ppts i have. then end the class with a review game which involves speaking
afterschool classes are more focused on actual conversation (more than a sentence)
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Re: Conversation versus Bookwork-- Which one do YOU focus on?
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April 19, 2011, 11:09:07 AM »
I think a lot depends on if your teacher has requested you use a book or not. When I have to use the book, I try and create situations which force the students to speak the points from the book -- fill in the blanks, questions that should be answered with the target structure, etc. Even though I know my texts are a bit nonsensical, I don't want to skip over the material because I know my students will be tested on the material later, and I don't want to "set them up for failure," so to speak. In addition to the strange book topics, however, I will try to set up the target language into something a little more relevant.
For longer activities, I will give the students some time to write down their answer before they have to say it. But I *will* eventually make them say it. It's difficult to get 35 kids all speaking in a 45 minute period, so I do a lot of group repetition/answers and random solicitation. I try not to use worksheets and even my fill in the blanks require phrases and not just words.
However, worksheets can come in handy to help overcome the "language gap." I also have to provide at least 2 or 3 examples and supply written English directions so my students can actually understand what's going on :)
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April 19, 2011, 11:16:47 AM »
my school gives me almost free rein in my classes. they told me my primary role was to make the kids talk. so i use the book more as guide. it is my co-teachers job to teach them gramer and all the boring stuff. the students practice with me. so i always play a game that makes them talk. and since i have low level students i start every day with the same question. "what is the most important sentence for my class?" the answer "can i go to the bathroom" haha i dont let my kids go to the bathroom unless the ask in english
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kaymac
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April 19, 2011, 03:07:58 PM »
Yeah, i have no book and free rein in my classes. A blessing and a curse. I like to try to get them to do a bit of writing each class, but they know at some point they'll end up having to read it out.
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April 19, 2011, 03:32:26 PM »
I have a book, so I normally create a speaking game around the topic of that day. I only give worksheets if its a legit topic. I use the worksheet as a review for the following class. The worksheet is almost always completed in 10 mins
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perangtang
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April 19, 2011, 04:53:47 PM »
I teach two grades: Grade 1 & Grade 2.
In Grade 2, the focus is absolutely positively on grammar. These girls are prepping for the university exams and they WANT grammar lessons. I don't use the textbook here as much, and I actually co-teach these lessons, so I don't really have full class periods to devote to making conversations about the conservation of water. That, and the text book for my Grade 2 doesn't really have conversation/talking points. It's definitely more restictive when thinking up activites to do with the class that still relate to such dry conversation topics, but I get to do activites with them for roughly 20 mins where we leave the textbook/grammar lesson and do something more fun.
For my Grade 1, I don't co-teach these lessons. However, I've been told I need to use the book. So basically I can do what I want as long as I cover what's in the book. For these classes, I do roughly 30% book & 70% conversation practice.
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April 19, 2011, 05:24:40 PM »
I'd have to say that I use both. I think that there should be some book work and then massive drilling through conversation activities that are more motivational for the students. I think this because my main goal here is to have them speak fluently. Most of the grammar is being taught to them by the coteachers and we're here for making English seem less stressful.
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johanna
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April 19, 2011, 05:26:08 PM »
I believe it's important for the students to practice the reading and writing (gotta learn to crawl before you can walk) but I do think during their classtime with native speakers that the main goal is getting them to speak. they get more grammar time in the english classes they have without us. so..i say push for as much conversation and speaking practice as much as possible...
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andyduong411
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April 20, 2011, 10:41:48 AM »
Thanks for everyone's input. I also utilize the book as a guide and generate target sentences and responses from every lesson. I teach at a private high school and my intermediate and advanced students are very intelligent. I teach them the target response sentence for each 3 main points from each lesson, and let them have free reins on helping each other figure out 2 extra sentences to add onto the target sentence.
I think its the basic classes that I have trouble with. I really trust in the teaching belief that students will strive to meet the standard you set for them, and i think im setting the bar too high for my basic students. I am going to utilize more handouts to provide more assistance for them.
YOU ALL ARE AWESOME FOR TAKING THE TIME TO RESPOND!! Websites like these really help me in becoming a better and more effective teacher. Thanks.
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