Wow, some people really need to learn how to stick up for themselves! If you do them a favor by renewing your contract (which saves them a shed load of cash and time) you tell them when you will be taking your vacation. SMOE, EPIK, GEPIK or whoever are NOT doing us a favor by letting us be here!!!
How full of yourself are you? They're not doing us a favor for giving us a job. You're also not doing them a favor by taking their job. It's a mutually beneficial relationship.
You don't tell your boss when you're taking your vacation. That said, don't let them take what they already promised you. If the vacation is 4 weeks long, then take the entire vacation and they can schedule whatever camps they want to. If it's 5 weeks and they want to smack a week in the middle of your vacation well, sucks to be you but there's nothing really wrong with that (they're just huge pricks).
Basically, do your job and take what you're owed but don't forget your place.
1) I think you need to learn to read properly. I never said we were doing them a favor initially being here, I said THEY are NOT doing US a favor so don't treat the situation as if they are.
2) We ARE doing them a favor by renewing. Do you have any idea how much it costs them to fly a new person out here and put them through orientation?
3) But don't forget our place? Where exactly is our place?
4) By renewing we are agreeing another business transaction for another year. They want you to stay as it saves them a shed load of cash, otherwise why do you think they renew the contracts of the people who do shit jobs? Go on think about it for a second. Therefore it doesn't take a business degree to figure that if you want the holiday at a certain time you get that agreed upon in your renewal contract.
1) looks like he read it just fine
2) not a dime, that money comes from the Government, your school doesnt give a damn about that, and the government couldnt care les if you stay or go. Also its not as great a deal as you say lets not forget that as a bonus for signing agin they must pay for a return ticket for you to go home and back ( or give you 2 million won for SMOE) where is this "savings" you are talking about
3) Our place - EMPLOYEE. They tell us what to do. NOw they still owe you things as per the contract and if they dont give it to you before you finish you have concern and a valid argument but saying " no I am damn well taking my two weeks now" when the school years starts and they can't give you the full two weeks in valid and their place to make that call, not you
4) They don't renew the contracts of people that so shit jobs. Ive known a number of teachers who have gotten pink slips and not invited back. There is no "savings" in it though, its more convenient yes, but "savings" no They save the 300 k for resettlement and thats it ( 100k of which is oftset by your pay raise)
1) Maybe I should send you both some reading comprehension exercises? Let me know.
2) Yes the money comes from the government, but SMOE or GEPIK or whoever have a budget. They have to stay within that budget. Now lets do the maths.
a) Teacher stays. 2million won resigning bonus and 2 weeks more vacation when they would only be doing camps. Thats it.
b) Teacher leaves. 2.6million for flights over a year. EPIK orientation costs the Education Board 1.5mil per person. Settlement allowance 300k.
b-a = 4400000 - 2000000 = 2400000won for each teacher that decides to leave. That doesnt even take into account the time it takes for your coteacher to help you settle in. How many NET's do you think there are in SMOE alone. You can do the final maths there mate. This is all money that can be used else where within the education system.
3) No one has mentioned taking the vacation during term time, don't be ridiculous, grow up and stop making pointless arguments. However it is reasonable for them to give us the agreed two weeks vacation at the same time as our other vacation. Our place is as respected teachers. Well at least mine is, yours might not be. As a respected hard working teacher I expect to be able to have my vacation at a reasonable time. Also, at the time of agreeing the renewal they are not our employers for the next contract. You are agreeing terms to allow them to be you employer, do you understand this? As mentioned earlier you are making a deal to stay that saves them a lot of money. Use your head and negotiate getting this at a reasonable time. Or don't and don't complain about it. Either way I couldn't give a shit, I know when I'm getting mine.
4) I have never known anyone who has not had their contract renewed, you have, fair enough. The pay rise is because we have 1 more year experience. If they were to get someone new with the same experience they would pay them the same, so this is not a saving, it is an investment in a more experienced teacher.