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  • Cyanea
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UK offers citizenship to 3M Hong Kong residents
« on: July 06, 2020, 01:18:28 am »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZtfpxXMTwk


It's the least London could do.

They never should've given HK to China.
Catch my drift?


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Re: UK offers citizenship to 3M Hong Kong residents
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2020, 05:38:30 am »
Given the little I know about the UK, I can see lot of people preferring an empty gesture, a bait-and-switch offer, or nothing at all. This looks good on the global stage, it could bring in lots of skilled workers, an maybe increase the quality of Chinese food offerings.

I guess if lots of people in the UK are not fans of Poles, there's probably a lot who are not fans of Chinese people.
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Re: UK offers citizenship to 3M Hong Kong residents
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2020, 06:33:42 am »
They weren't not fans of Poles specifically, they were against anyone from less economically developed European countries undercutting them in the labour market.  Three million Hong Kong Chinese would normally be a good addition, but being as how we're on the verge of a huge global recession, the timing's not great.


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Re: UK offers citizenship to 3M Hong Kong residents
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2020, 08:07:14 am »
I remember reading articles a few years ago of some of the outlandish ideas British officials were brainstorming of. And one of them was relocating virtually all Hong Kong residents to some areas in the UK. There is a link to one idea of moving some 5 millions Hong Kong residents into Northern Ireland. And there was also another one of moving them to some island in Scotland, but the link seems not to be working. But I've included it just in case someone can magically access it.

Would it have worked? Not so sure, since a lot of Hong Kong's economy does depend on China. Would all those international banks move their operations to some remote island in the British Isles when they originally wanted access to the Chinese market? And how many of those 5 millions would have actually made the move?


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jul/03/uk-officials-discussed-resettling-55m-hong-kong-chinese-in-northern-ireland

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/11920027.scotland-could-be-site-of-new-hong-kong-says-study/
« Last Edit: July 06, 2020, 08:10:27 am by pkjh »


Re: UK offers citizenship to 3M Hong Kong residents
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2020, 10:19:26 am »
It's pretty hilarious that China thinks it's going to gain anything from this debacle.

HK is the jewel of Asia because of the people, government and culture, not some empty buildings.

- Hong Kongers will leave and I don't see those staying willing to give the CCP an easy time
- Real-estate values, stocks and investor confidence will drop faster than a fat kid on a seesaw
- The US will reassess HKs freedom index (not sure of the official name of that document) and suspend all trade privileges
  that were in place.
- Tourism will take a nosedive

The CCP would've gained seemingly nothing for a hefty cost.


Re: UK offers citizenship to 3M Hong Kong residents
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2020, 10:42:56 am »
I'd love to see all the $$$ walk outta Hong Kong. There are plenty of major cities around that would welcome all that business with their arms wide open.


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Re: UK offers citizenship to 3M Hong Kong residents
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2020, 10:50:08 am »
The United Kingdom of London.
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Re: UK offers citizenship to 3M Hong Kong residents
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2020, 12:06:12 pm »
I'd love to see all the $$$ walk outta Hong Kong. There are plenty of major cities around that would welcome all that business with their arms wide open.
Most likely Singapore will see the bulk of that money, and Taiwan a big chunk of it. That money is staying in Asia in a safe place where companies can hold their cash while still having access to China.


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Re: UK offers citizenship to 3M Hong Kong residents
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2020, 09:43:40 pm »
one idea of moving some 5 millions Hong Kong residents into Northern Ireland.

Lol those officials have obviously never lived in northern Ireland.


They would never be accepted by the locals, there would be massive tensions.


ireland is a tribalistic place. they haven't been fighting for centuries simply to have their country given away to complete strangers overnight.


Maybe English people have lost their sense of identity. That is definitely not true of the Scots, Welsh or northern Irish.
Catch my drift?


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Re: UK offers citizenship to 3M Hong Kong residents
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2020, 07:24:43 am »
Lol those officials have obviously never lived in northern Ireland.


They would never be accepted by the locals, there would be massive tensions.


ireland is a tribalistic place. they haven't been fighting for centuries simply to have their country given away to complete strangers overnight.


Maybe English people have lost their sense of identity. That is definitely not true of the Scots, Welsh or northern Irish.


Yeah, this would never fly in Northern Ireland.  There would be riots.
Ship them to a shitty place like Wales.


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Re: UK offers citizenship to 3M Hong Kong residents
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2020, 07:39:36 am »
It's pretty hilarious that China thinks it's going to gain anything from this debacle.

HK is the jewel of Asia because of the people, government and culture, not some empty buildings.

- Hong Kongers will leave and I don't see those staying willing to give the CCP an easy time
- Real-estate values, stocks and investor confidence will drop faster than a fat kid on a seesaw
- The US will reassess HKs freedom index (not sure of the official name of that document) and suspend all trade privileges
  that were in place.
- Tourism will take a nosedive

The CCP would've gained seemingly nothing for a hefty cost.

Sadly, they don't care about that, they just want to cling to power and to hell with humans, be they Chinese or otherwise. History has proved it time and again, the CCP don't give a flying fig about the Chinese people, the almighty CCP is all that counts.

One thing they haven't considered is that if the US blocks everything and there is capital flight from HK, they will no longer be able to launder the money of the Chinese elite in the ruling party, because that is what they use HK for and if all that happens they would have truly shot themselves in the foot.

But.... many businesses will not pull out because money is  more important to them than bringing down a brutal regime. I saw something online, sadly I didn't note the link but the businessmen in HK are quite confident as long as Chinese businesses and banks step into the gap that may or may not be left, they will be just fine. Not sure how much truth there is in that, but that seems to be the sentiment of business leaders, both Chinese and foreign in HK.

We will just have to see how this plays out, perhaps it will be a major blow to the CCP or perhaps just a blip on the radar because as I said, money is the most important thing and morals play a minute role in business decisions.

As for myself, I am harbouring the hope that they move the financial centre of HK to Taiwan, that would be a smart move. It is a stable, democratic country and should it become the 'Jewel of Asia' it is going to receive a lot more support from the world than it presently enjoys due to everyone falling over their feet to keep Beijing happy.
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Re: UK offers citizenship to 3M Hong Kong residents
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2020, 08:23:51 am »
Sadly, they don't care about that, they just want to cling to power and to hell with humans, be they Chinese or otherwise. History has proved it time and again, the CCP don't give a flying fig about the Chinese people, the almighty CCP is all that counts.

One thing they haven't considered is that if the US blocks everything and there is capital flight from HK, they will no longer be able to launder the money of the Chinese elite in the ruling party, because that is what they use HK for and if all that happens they would have truly shot themselves in the foot.

But.... many businesses will not pull out because money is  more important to them than bringing down a brutal regime. I saw something online, sadly I didn't note the link but the businessmen in HK are quite confident as long as Chinese businesses and banks step into the gap that may or may not be left, they will be just fine. Not sure how much truth there is in that, but that seems to be the sentiment of business leaders, both Chinese and foreign in HK.

We will just have to see how this plays out, perhaps it will be a major blow to the CCP or perhaps just a blip on the radar because as I said, money is the most important thing and morals play a minute role in business decisions.

As for myself, I am harbouring the hope that they move the financial centre of HK to Taiwan, that would be a smart move. It is a stable, democratic country and should it become the 'Jewel of Asia' it is going to receive a lot more support from the world than it presently enjoys due to everyone falling over their feet to keep Beijing happy.

China's the second biggest economy in the world. This comes with a lot of power. As fun as it is to tehehe China, lots of industries rely on its abilities and its demand. The lobster industry, for example is as strong as it is now because of tremendous Chinese demand.

It's one thing to have visions of sticking it to China, but they are an incredibly important player in the global economy and one that is able to cause huge changes, much like the largest economy in the world can.

In my opinion politicians' top concern is their re-election, or in China's case, enough support to maintain the status quo. If the economy's strength can be maintaining and enough people can live comfortably or better, they'll have support of the people. Let's not pretend hundreds of thousands of innocent lives lost was ever a threat to re-election.
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-AP


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Re: UK offers citizenship to 3M Hong Kong residents
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2020, 08:31:46 am »
I mean yeah, I'm not harboring much hope for China facing any consequence for anything, but it would be nice etc.


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Re: UK offers citizenship to 3M Hong Kong residents
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2020, 08:46:03 am »
I mean yeah, I'm not harboring much hope for China facing any consequence for anything, but it would be nice etc.

Would help if people stopped bleating on about 'rAciSm' and 'DrUmpF' every time someone highlights what a disgrace the Chinese gov are. Doesn't matter though because out of sight out of mind innit.
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Re: UK offers citizenship to 3M Hong Kong residents
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2020, 09:09:20 am »
Would help if people stopped bleating on about 'rAciSm' and 'DrUmpF' every time someone highlights what a disgrace the Chinese gov are. Doesn't matter though because out of sight out of mind innit.

That's the CCP'S narrative, I picked that up when I was living there. It was made very clear to me that if someone said ANYTHING negative about the CCP it was a direct attack on the Chinese nation and meant you hated the Chinese and were racist.
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Re: UK offers citizenship to 3M Hong Kong residents
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2020, 09:09:22 am »
I'm proud of my homeland for this , also for telling Huawei to piss off!  With Trump in the US dismantling their joke a trade deal and Australia finally growing a pair we might see CCP take some over due punishment!