Defund doesn't mean elimante. It means take some of their budget and use it to create alternatives to the majority of the calls that the police currently deal with, such as mental health and drug issues.
Yes, the problem is what social worker/mental health nurse is going to want to respond to a call that some nutter is wandering around the neighbourhood threatening people? As soon as there's a possibility of violence, they'll call the police anyway. Just like they do in hospitals when it gets a bit hairy.
I was a case manager/resident advocate in a mens homeless shelter. I personally only had to call the police once out of two years working there. These guys had a wide variety of issues; mental health, drug addiction, post prison supervision, serious health issues. So I don't think finding applicants will be a problem.
Yes but I thought we were talking about people the public do call the police about now, being the responsibility of someone else, not the ones they don't.
All Police Dispatches By Call Type, July 2018 to June 2020Below is an aggregate list of police dispatch calls by call type over the past two years, sorted from high to low by number of calls responded to by police.Alarm: 12,464Other Miscellaneous: 11,885MVA - No Injury: 9,416Breach / Disorderly Conduct: 7,654Domestic Dispute: 7,339Theft: 6,040Trespass / Unwanted Person: 5,764Parking Violations: 5,478Noise Complaint: 5,397Public Hazard: 4,612Door Check / Welfare Check: 4,282Evading - No Injury: 3,900Assault/Fight: 3,839Person Down BLS: 3,322Psych/Ab Behav/Suicidal BLS: 3,167Criminal Mischief / Vandalism: 3,076Motor Vehicle Stop: 2,785Harassment: 2,575911 Hangup Call: 2,554Tenant / Neighbor Issues: 2,491Supplemental Investigation: 2,468Suspicious Person: 2,443Fraud / Forgery / False Rpt: 2,381Warrant / Wanted Person: 2,355MVA - Minor Injury (TTAB): 1,996Emotionally Disturbed: 1,905Assist Other Agency - Police: 1,785Threatening/Stalking: 1,645Loitering: 1,514Prop Retrieval / Prev Breach: 1,489Lost or Found Property: 1,411Drug / Narcotics Complaint: 1,342Suspicious Auto: 1,323Burglary Occurred: 1,315Gunfire / Shots Fired: 1,295Missing Person > 13 YO: 1,288Animal Complaint: 1,260Recovered Auto: 1,121Intoxicated Person (PD): 936Sick Person (Medical Assist): 921Guarding Prisoner: 904Overdose: 900Stolen Auto: 748Box Alarm: 738Prisoner Conveyance Requested: 716Weapons Complaint: 712Custodial Interference: 679Robbery: 628Located Person: 620Risk of Injury Complaint: 618MVA - Majory Injury (TTAA): 610Wires Down: 557MVA - Minor Injury: 531Unknown Nature: 516Assault ALS: 488Veh Taken w/o Permission: 476Deceased Person: 395Sex Offenses: 394Fireworks: 370Tampering w/ Motor Vehicle: 358Illegal Dumping: 329Auto Fire: 248Accident Other than MV: 239Evading - Minor Injury (TTAB): 222Sexual Assault / Rape: 217Psych/Ab Behav/Suicidal: 210Burglary in Progress: 202Drunk Driver: 190Person Shot: 183Missing Child less than 13 YOA: 183MVA - Major Injury: 157Notifications: 156MVA Start Code: 143Trash Fire: 125Animal Bite / Sting ALS: 107Rollover Extrication Required: 106Prostitution Complaint: 104Psych/Ab Behav/Suicidal ALS: 102Stabbing / Knife Injury-Major: 95Unattended Luggage: 93Activated Fire Alarm: 83Evading - Minor Injury: 60Stabbing / Knife Injury-Minor: 54Absentee Ballot: 52Traffic Post / Corner Duty: 49Evading - Major Injury (TTAA): 49Stolen Plate: 45Street Cleaning Detail: 34In Pursuit: 30Gambling: 30MVA Major Injury: 28Overdose/Poisoning/Ingest ALS: 27Recovered Plate: 23Hazardous Materials Incident: 22Liquor Violation: 19Abduction: 17Evading - Major Injury: 15Elevator Extrication: 15Suspicious Package: 13Murder: 10Bomb Threat: 10Mutual Aid-Other Jurisdiction: 9Code 1 Suspicious Package: 8Welfare Check BLS: 7Train Derailment/Incident: 6Detox-Ambulance Needed: 6Animal Bite/Sting BLS: 6Reckless Endangerment: 4Partial Collapse: 4Cardiac/Resp Arrest/Death: 4Breathing Problem ALS: 4Unconscious ALS: 3Police Escort: 3Odor or Natural Gas: 3Civil Unrest Law: 3Burglar on Premise: 3Sick Person ALS: 2Officer Needed Assistance Sig4: 2Citizen Assist (Yale): 2Animal Bite Start Code: 2Traumatic Injuries ALS: 1Structural Collapse: 1High Angle Rescue: 1Fall ALS: 1Escaped Prisoner: 1Electrocution BLS: 1Code 2 Suspicious Behavior: 1Chest Pain ALS: 1Brush Fire: 1AMR Only: 1Allergic Reaction ALS: 1
Not really surprising, only the very stupidest people would start acting up physically when confronted by a US cop these days. I wonder how many of those calls would have ended in violence if an unarmed social worker had responded to the call.
Nearly 15% of men and 30% of women booked into jails have a serious mental health condition, the National Alliance on Mental Illness estimates.And more than 1 in 5 people shot and killed by police have a mental illness, according to a Washington Post database of fatal shootings by on-duty police officers.Police have fatally shot more than 1,200 people with mental illnesses the majority of whom were white since 2015, according to the database. Of the nearly 700 people shot and killed by police so far this year, more than 100 had a mental illness."The police become the responders of last resort, and the jails become the mental hospitals of last resort," said Peter Scharf, a criminologist at the Louisiana State University School of Public Health and Justice. "Increasingly, the police and correctional system become the last option."
I wonder how many people having a mental health episode wouldn't have been shot if a mental health worker arrived.
how many mental health workers would have been shot/stabbed/beaten up if they'd arrived instead of the police
idk dude how many?
At least 1 more than the number of people killed by police
really glad to see this thread has revived
at least 1201 mental health workers would have been stabbed/shot/beaten up if they had arrived to deal with someone having a mental health episode instead of the police?
