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  • kawrou
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    • March 14, 2017, 04:03:51 am
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Winter Camp 2020 - Online Zoom
« on: November 18, 2020, 12:16:30 pm »
Hi, it's winter camp season soon and I was wondering if any of you have tried doing a summer camp online?
Even though I've been here for 3 years, I've only had to do one camp which was manageable. But doing it online whilst keeping it interesting is a whole other thing.
Was hoping to get some advice from those of you that have already done it.
Thanks :-[


  • eeancira
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    • July 21, 2020, 06:11:47 am
    • South Korea
Re: Winter Camp 2020 - Online Zoom
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2020, 02:47:34 pm »
Online Camp can be difficult. Out of my 3 days of summer camp this year, I had to do 1 online, through Zoom. The expectations were to have the students talking and using English. My co-teacher wanted the students to take this chance to speak and ask questions, sort of like a conversation. It can be difficult when the students are lower level, but I recommend choosing activities or a theme that you can build with them. For example, with my boys school I did Avatar: The Last Airbender theme. During the online portion we started with some vocabulary and I gave them two questions that we would be talking about, then I showed a 20 minute episode of the show which I created the questions from. After watching the clip, we talked about the clip, what did they see, what did they understand, and what are their answers to the questions. Then I did a Kahoot! game with them, I had 8 students so two groups of 4 online for about 45 minutes. The kahoot! was done using their phones or having them write down their answers. For camp I was not strict or pressuring, I made sure to have a list of back ups if the students weren't engaged or answering. Online can be difficult, but your energy as a teacher greatly sets the tone of the camp. Try to stay positive and move on to another activity if the students are not enjoying it. For online camp it's okay to do ZOOM games (i.e. hangman, guess the word? which you show a picture and students guess what it is, mentimeter app, padlet, find the letter-you give students a letter and they find something in their room that starts with that letter), as long as you're involving students in English and giving students time to understand and participate.
« Last Edit: November 18, 2020, 02:51:53 pm by eeancira »


Re: Winter Camp 2020 - Online Zoom
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2020, 03:28:32 pm »
Hi
I did 4 online camps for each grade (3-6) at elementary school this last summer.
Yes it was a bit of work.
I did have them do some writing (a poem!) (usually after class as we ran out of time during the zoom).  They had to read it the next day - and show their illustrations.
We also played board games - each student had a copy of the board and threw their own dice (or spinner) and interacted in that way.
I also used mini whiteboards for them to write on and hold up (laminated sheet would also work)
To monitor and record their talking  I had a print out of their names and I used that to mark when they spoke, what kind of response it was.  Each day I used a different color.

Yes, there were a few technical glitches but my co-teacher dealt with those by talking to students (and parents) online until they were resolved.

Online using zoom was much better than a pre-recorded version of camp which is one option that I was given!


  • kawrou
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Re: Winter Camp 2020 - Online Zoom
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2020, 02:47:57 pm »
Thanks for the replies!
I'm teaching middle school and it will be 5 days online. 2 periods per grade. Not sure how many students will be participating yet.
During the normal school online lessons, it was quite tedious to do games as there are at least  30+ students per class and it took a long time for them to get up and find things in their house for example.
I was considering an animation/movie camp as it might easier than some other ideas.
But am also thinking of preparing some art/craft things for them to do as well. Something that they can produce for a portion of the lesson. 


  • Ericwesch
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    • February 07, 2012, 08:42:51 pm
    • Daegu, South Korea
Re: Winter Camp 2020 - Online Zoom
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2020, 09:18:04 am »
Hi,
Here are 10 games you can play online with them using Baamboozle.
https://youtu.be/vBmzTbl87Sk


  • SamBunny
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    • September 26, 2016, 11:37:11 pm
    • Chungbuk
Re: Winter Camp 2020 - Online Zoom
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2020, 09:59:44 am »
Thanks for the replies!
I'm teaching middle school and it will be 5 days online. 2 periods per grade. Not sure how many students will be participating yet.
During the normal school online lessons, it was quite tedious to do games as there are at least  30+ students per class and it took a long time for them to get up and find things in their house for example.
I was considering an animation/movie camp as it might easier than some other ideas.
But am also thinking of preparing some art/craft things for them to do as well. Something that they can produce for a portion of the lesson. 


I'm in almost the same boat: 2 grades, camp entirely online via live Zoom lessons, *three* 100-minute lessons every day for *two* weeks. I have absolutely no idea what to do. Luckily, I at least got them sorted into different proficiency levels (camp was supposed to be 9-12, 3 hours long, 30+ kids of mixed grades and English levels at the same time! I told them no effing way was that going to happen, I'd kill myself before attempting to manage that sh*tshow.)

I'm toying with the idea of movies as well, since it's a subject everyone can participate in. Maybe each day, we'll discuss a different movie genre, and students will share a short clip of their favorite movie from that genre, and everyone will pair off/form small groups and discuss what they watched? We'll also discuss what defines a particular genre, why do some people enjoy certain genres (like horror), stuff like that... for more advanced students, what movies have had an impact on culture, do they have any favorite directors or actors, can you think of any movies that have a distinctive style... for the first class it'll be an introduction to movies and we'll have simple discussions like what's a genre, what is everybody's favorite genre and why, what's your favorite movie/why, etc...

Maybe on Friday of each week we'll play some kind of game to review what we've learned about genres, any notable movies, etc... my school discouraged the use of any websites outside of google classroom and YouTube... any ideas as to what kinds of games can be played with students from my computer screen? Maybe I'm not creative enough, but I'm at a loss.

I'm grateful these got turned into 3 longer classes as opposed to a single 3-hour class. Sure, it's significantly longer hours to work (nearly double), but at least it'll be mentally bearable and, more importantly, physically possible.
« Last Edit: December 07, 2020, 11:13:47 am by SamBunny »


Re: Winter Camp 2020 - Online Zoom
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2020, 01:59:28 pm »
It might be a good idea to check if your school/KT is OK with the students going into breakout rooms in pairs etc.  Maybe you have been using them in regular classes so it might not be a problem.  For my summer camp my KT didn't want us doing this as we couldn't monitor them (not sure I wanted to do it either so I didn't mind).  It would be good to do - so long as students were good with each other and no negative vibes etc.  I guess what I am trying to say is to just check there is no liability etc if someone complains about what another student said.


  • Renma
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Re: Winter Camp 2020 - Online Zoom
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2020, 02:09:32 pm »
I'm in almost the same boat: 2 grades, camp entirely online via live Zoom lessons, *three* 100-minute lessons every day for *two* weeks. I have absolutely no idea what to do. Luckily, I at least got them sorted into different proficiency levels (camp was supposed to be 9-12, 3 hours long, 30+ kids of mixed grades and English levels at the same time! I told them no effing way was that going to happen, I'd kill myself before attempting to manage that sh*tshow.)


I hope you're getting overtime for that. That's the equivalent of 7.5 elementary classes a day!


Re: Winter Camp 2020 - Online Zoom
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2020, 02:01:30 pm »
My school is doing a paper craft camp online, building some famous infrastructures from around the world. If 12 or less students signs up, then we'll buy the original sets. But if there are more than 12 then we print everything on card paper and have them cut and color at home. We just use google meet to live chat and I just guide them in English. We're very much leaning towards the print on card paper because then it would take longer for them to do and harder for them to figure out what we're actually building.


  • SamBunny
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    • September 26, 2016, 11:37:11 pm
    • Chungbuk
Re: Winter Camp 2020 - Online Zoom
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2020, 07:24:03 am »
I hope you're getting overtime for that. That's the equivalent of 7.5 elementary classes a day!

They realized that would put me at overtime, so they changed it to 3 *85-minute* lessons instead of 100 minutes. They also said I can work from home, which is excellent! My school is pretty cool. They realize I legit just want what's best for my kids, even if that means more work for me.


Re: Winter Camp 2020 - Online Zoom
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2020, 01:49:17 pm »
I did online camp this summer and am going to do it again in the winter. For one school, I only had two days of camp and 1 hour with different kids so I did one day talking about hobbies. Then I did one day talking about music. They were quizzes interspersed to make sure they were all paying attention and not sleeping behind their computer.

In my other school, I had 4 hours a day split into two groups. So two hours with one group of kids and 2 hours with another group of kids. The first day was in class but then it moved to online. The whole camp was supposed to be ASL, but since we moved online for the rest of the week I just did some review of the ASL letters we learned and the rest of the time I just kind of talked with the students (it was 2-4 kids each group so it was easier to have a conversation). I did a survival island lesson where they had to think about what they'd bring and justify each choice. And we talked about movies shortly and I did a Scene It game?

I'm thinking for this winter camp, it'll be holidays so each day I'll do a different holiday. Just unsure how to make it more interactive since it's a little harder online. Hope something here gives you an idea or sparks something else to come to mind. This is a really great thread. Good luck to us all during these online camps.


Re: Winter Camp 2020 - Online Zoom
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2020, 08:02:54 am »
I'll be doing online winter camp for my elementary school using a book that has fairy tale excerpts and then questions about the story. 4 hours each day, one or two students at a time for 10-20 minutes (depending on how many sign up). We'll read through the story for that day and then answer the questions, and then the next day read the next story and etc. etc.
It's going to be pretty boring and tedious but it was the easiest option for all of us since my school thinks that doing any kind of crafts would be too ambitious if the kids were at home :/ Good luck to anyone teaching camp over zoom, especially if you're expected to do as "traditional" a camp as possible. That's gonna be rough


  • 303lmc
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    • March 05, 2019, 05:23:12 pm
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Re: Winter Camp 2020 - Online Zoom
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2020, 10:04:51 am »
I'll be doing online winter camp for my elementary school using a book that has fairy tale excerpts and then questions about the story. 4 hours each day, one or two students at a time for 10-20 minutes (depending on how many sign up). We'll read through the story for that day and then answer the questions, and then the next day read the next story and etc. etc.
It's going to be pretty boring and tedious but it was the easiest option for all of us since my school thinks that doing any kind of crafts would be too ambitious if the kids were at home :/ Good luck to anyone teaching camp over zoom, especially if you're expected to do as "traditional" a camp as possible. That's gonna be rough
oh boy, that is tedious and exhausting. I have been calling students each week, grades 3-6 since April. My school is small, smallest class 8, biggest 15 students. each call was around 5 minutes. I just had them listen and repeat what we learned in class. it's been exhausting. at some point I convinced them that calling grades 5 & 6 was taking me a LONG time, so how about just tutoring calls. they agreed. I can't even imagine presenting new material to teach via zoom. good luck.


  • Renma
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Re: Winter Camp 2020 - Online Zoom
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2020, 11:12:42 am »
They realized that would put me at overtime, so they changed it to 3 *85-minute* lessons instead of 100 minutes. They also said I can work from home, which is excellent! My school is pretty cool. They realize I legit just want what's best for my kids, even if that means more work for me.

Fair enough, your call. That still works out to about 33 hours per week though. Just saying, you can get the ~440k in overtime they'll owe you (assuming your contract is the same as most PS's), while still doing what's best for your kids.


  • SamBunny
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    • September 26, 2016, 11:37:11 pm
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Re: Winter Camp 2020 - Online Zoom
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2020, 08:00:26 am »
Fair enough, your call. That still works out to about 33 hours per week though. Just saying, you can get the ~440k in overtime they'll owe you (assuming your contract is the same as most PS's), while still doing what's best for your kids.

Am I really bad at math, or are you? lol. Doesn't three 85-minute classes 5 days a week equal exactly under 22 hours a week? Am I missing something? Do camps have different rules about pay and teaching hours?


Re: Winter Camp 2020 - Online Zoom
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2020, 08:50:16 am »
Am I really bad at math, or are you? lol. Doesn't three 85-minute classes 5 days a week equal exactly under 22 hours a week? Am I missing something? Do camps have different rules about pay and teaching hours?

He's going by how Korean class hours are defined, which is by class period, not by an actual hour.

Depending on what grade level you teach, 1 class hour is actually just 40, 45, or 50 minutes long. The rest of that hour is counted as a break, to give people time to use the restroom, fetch a drink, or prepare materials for their next class.

If you're doing 85-minute classes, that's two class periods, regardless of age level. Doing that three times in one day is 6 class periods and therefore 6 class hours. Doing that for five days is over 30 class hours; therefore, you are working more than 22 class hours, which entitles you to overtime pay. That's the way it works.

If you're not getting overtime pay, you're getting cheated.
« Last Edit: December 24, 2020, 08:55:56 am by Chinguetti »


  • SamBunny
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    • September 26, 2016, 11:37:11 pm
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Re: Winter Camp 2020 - Online Zoom
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2020, 12:25:58 pm »
He's going by how Korean class hours are defined, which is by class period, not by an actual hour.

Depending on what grade level you teach, 1 class hour is actually just 40, 45, or 50 minutes long. The rest of that hour is counted as a break, to give people time to use the restroom, fetch a drink, or prepare materials for their next class.

If you're doing 85-minute classes, that's two class periods, regardless of age level. Doing that three times in one day is 6 class periods and therefore 6 class hours. Doing that for five days is over 30 class hours; therefore, you are working more than 22 class hours, which entitles you to overtime pay. That's the way it works.

If you're not getting overtime pay, you're getting cheated.

I'm so confused.
In my EPIK contract, it specifically states "22 instruction hours".... doesn't that mean "hours spent actively teaching"? There's nothing in my contract about "one teaching period = 1 instruction hour". Plus, it's camp. It's not like I need time to pack up and get to another classroom and set up again, so I have even less of a leg to stand on using that argument. I obviously don't want to get screwed over, but my contract wording makes it seem fairly straightforward that I'm not actually *instructing* over 22 hours so it's a non-issue.

I tried talking to my coworker, who then talked to the head teacher, but they're using the wording of the contract as pretty obvious justification for keeping the schedule the same. What could I possibly say/do/point out to justify my insistence? I don't want to bring it up again unless I have some kind of proof :/


  • RCNEIRA
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    • March 02, 2020, 07:12:17 am
    • Busan
Re: Winter Camp 2020 - Online Zoom
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2020, 12:35:00 pm »
I did an online summer camp with two schools. I focused on a different topic each day and took a project-based approach.

The first day (introductions/creating their own virtual avatar and how to write comic books) culminated in them creating a hero and sharing their own comic.

The second day I taught them about advertisements and then we designed our own cereal boxes.

The final day (weather and news broadcasting) culminated in them delivering a group news broadcast that they created by filling in a premade worksheet on google docs together with information that they found about that specific day on the news.

To keep things interesting, we also played online pictionary and even a Pacman [https://www.classtools.net/arcade/index.php] quiz game to see who could get the highest points at the end of the day. I also collected all their work and created a class gallery of everything they had submitted (usually pictures of their cereal art, news broadcast, and comics among other small projects) and we had a virtual gallery walkthrough that ended in them giving a compliment to at least one person for their work (commenting on the Google slide).


Re: Winter Camp 2020 - Online Zoom
« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2020, 12:43:14 pm »
I'm so confused.
In my EPIK contract, it specifically states "22 instruction hours".... doesn't that mean "hours spent actively teaching"? There's nothing in my contract about "one teaching period = 1 instruction hour". Plus, it's camp. It's not like I need time to pack up and get to another classroom and set up again, so I have even less of a leg to stand on using that argument. I obviously don't want to get screwed over, but my contract wording makes it seem fairly straightforward that I'm not actually *instructing* over 22 hours so it's a non-issue.

I tried talking to my coworker, who then talked to the head teacher, but they're using the wording of the contract as pretty obvious justification for keeping the schedule the same. What could I possibly say/do/point out to justify my insistence? I don't want to bring it up again unless I have some kind of proof :/

No, 22 instruction hours mean 22 class periods. 1 instruction hour is 1 class period. It's not a literal hour.

Since you're with EPIK, it would probably be best to contact your coordinator about it. (S)he can clear up the details and act as informant and mediator if your school continues to be stubborn about this.


  • hangook77
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Re: Winter Camp 2020 - Online Zoom
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2020, 08:41:10 am »
My main school has done short 3 day camps in both summer and this winter in person.  The Korean teacher plans some classes and I plan some.  (In Elementary, they actually co teach and help plan unlike in Middle School.)  I have been reading children's books and making activities based off them the last year or so.  I scan them and put them onto ppt form.  My school has some decent kids books.