Folks have told me of having covid like symptoms back in Canada in late 2019. One of my sister's even got a mysterious sickness after meeting a client from China last January. It was covid like symptoms.
Honestly, the Spanish Flu lasted 2 to 2 and a half years before finally dying out and folks getting natural immunity to it.By the time this vaccine becomes available to the general population, covid will have been around for almost 2 years. Next spring or summer. So, the virus would be soon ready to die out anyways. Maybe might cut it down 6 months or so or may die out at the same time. So, the vaccine will almost be kind of a moot point by then. Might cut short the mask wearing by a few months or something (or not at all). It will help the most vulnerable and prone to getting sick over this winter season however. (I believe the shots will only be available to the most affected in the short term.)
Trump will hold them to account in his second term.
Does anyone else feel like China got off way too lightly? Apart from the odd instance of Sinophobia here and there, it seems like no one's actually held them accountable.
I'll take it because I will have to for my job. If it works everything is fine. If I get sick because of it, I get sick. If I get sick and die because of it, I die. I will say this, I had a flu shot once and only once in my life. I have never been as sick with the flu as I was after that shot. Never had another one. Clearly this vaccine will kill some people, that is inevitable. But, it's going to save darn near everyone and help get things back to normal. I want to go on a vacation to Europe.
But the human body has often gotten a type of herd immunity eventually.
Even local instances of plagues in history died out eventually. Even the Black Plague lasted in Europe about 4 years. But travel was slow and localized areas were 2 to 3 years.
Lol. A human body can't get herd immunity. Herd immunity is a statistical event when the majority of a population is not at risk of infection. It differs from disease to disease, but for measles that percentage is at around 95%. I imagine herd immunity will mean around 95% as well.This can be achieved either by rigorous immunization programmes, or by just infecting everybody and letting the weak/susceptible die until only those with active antibodies remain. Depending on the case-fatality ratio, the latter method can be a bad idea as there are modern pathogens out there with a CFR as high as 90% (ie Ebola).The black Plague has been around for thousands of years before those plague years. As with all diseases, in order to brew a decent outbreak, there needs to be a minimum population density. Europe happened to cross that threshold in the 1300s.There were many other outbreaks that killed a lot of people during the Roman period, in India, China, and again in Europe afterwards. They just weren't as devastating, hence less well known. It was endemic for centuries.In fact, the Black Death (Yersinia pestis if you want the name of the actual pathogen) is still alive and well. The Black Death, while relatively rare, is still killing people today (in China, ironically). Hopefully we'll be able to deal with Covid19 effectively so that it doesn't remain endemic like so many others!
Lol. A human body can't get herd immunity. Herd immunity is a statistical event when the majority of a population is not at risk of infection. It differs from disease to disease, but for measles that percentage is at around 95%. I imagine herd immunity will mean around 95% as well.
People stopped getting black plague and dying from it.
I voted no. The reason for my no vote is because I am in remission from cancer treatmentwhich I had 3 years ago.
People stopped getting Spanish flu and dying from it. There were no vaccines. Many diseases eventually we built a tolerance too.
You're like a walking meme.
100% of scientists will agree that if they had brought out a vaccine for the Black Death it wouldn't have changed the undeniable fact that they'd all be dead now anyway.#vaccinesareforchumps
I dont blame you for rounding up, but the percentage of scientists who subscribe to that theory only stands at 99.99%, and the remaining (and quite vocal!) 0.01% hold a rather convincing if unorthodox theory of their own based on a novel interpretation of the evidence.Anyways, I would like to point out that youre all in good company; as the poll stands now, were at 75% of respondents saying yes, well above even conservative estimates for covid-19 herd immunity. Hang with us, JNM!
Maybe a Stossel video explaining the pros of a vaccine could get it higher
"Stossel Video"
...Anyways, I would like to point out that youre all in good company; as the poll stands now, were at 75% of respondents saying yes, well above even conservative estimates for covid-19 herd immunity. Hang with us, JNM!
The sample is not representative.Most respondents have at least a BA, and are (at least partly) outside the echo-chambers that are modern media.