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  • SPQR
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Re: Texas to allow unlicensed carrying of handguns
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2021, 05:23:55 pm »
If I lived in the States I'd have a gun. I'd practice and get a concealed carry permit.

It would be great when you are acting the macho hero, draw your gun, pull the trigger,
miss your target and kill some innocent bystander. Possibly a child. Yeehaw.


Re: Texas to allow unlicensed carrying of handguns
« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2021, 05:40:22 pm »
It would be great when you are acting the macho hero, draw your gun, pull the trigger,
miss your target and kill some innocent bystander. Possibly a child. Yeehaw.
Same time it would also suck to watch some maniac start slashing people with a knife, trying to ram his car into a crowd, or yes, having a gun and walking up to some little girl and you can't do anything about it because you aren't armed.

I suppose it all depends on your threat profile. For example, some in the countryside wouldn't have the same threat profile or utility of owning a gun vs. a suburban family vs. someone in the inner city.

It's why one-size-fits-all federal gun control policy outside of some very basic measures is probably not that good of an idea. If cities or counties want to enact specific laws, fine, but they shouldn't apply a ban on 5-10 rd. box magazines to some rural county in North Dakota or Pennsylvania.

Likewise if you were a female truck driver and you just happened to be dumb and announce over the CB that you didn't have a gun, then well, stuff happens to female truckers at rest stops who make that mistake. Likewise if you live in the suburbs and your response to some random meth addict burglarizing a house 3 doors down is to get a gun, then yes, you are probably asking for tragedy.

If you look at gun crime and where it occurs, most of it is connected to the inner city drug trade. After that comes suicides and domestics. There are wide swaths of the country that have lots of guns, guns as a part of culture, and very little gun crime or gun accidents. That's not to say gun control is good or bad, only that you can't look at one part of the country and think it applies to all and also you can't just remark "Yeehaw" and be making an actual real point without some kind of data/context.


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Re: Texas to allow unlicensed carrying of handguns
« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2021, 06:43:12 pm »
The statistical odds of dying this way are so small they are not worth worrying about.

Homicides per 100,000:

USA: 5.35
World average: 7.03
Philippines: 11.02
South Africa: 33.97

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/murder-rate-by-country

The world’s a safe place. All countries are getting better in this regard.






Not being concerned about and aware of someone possibly having a gun and being willing to use it is what can too easily make you one of those statistics.


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Re: Texas to allow unlicensed carrying of handguns
« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2021, 06:47:13 pm »
Americans on here, raise your hand if you’ve experienced a mass shooting or know someone who has. No one? That’s because the population of the country is so big.
I know someone.

And I've been shot, although it was only accidentally with buckshot from hunters that was mitigated by the trees and brush between us.


  • SPQR
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    • March 08, 2018, 07:04:54 pm
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Re: Texas to allow unlicensed carrying of handguns
« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2021, 06:54:18 pm »
I think you are missing the whole point of the OP. Most countries do
not have "threat profiles" because they see the lunacy of having an
armed population.

Again, most nations just roll their eyes when they see the sheer
volume of dangerous, non-sporting, weaponry available to the
American population.

Add to this the bill does away with:

-licensing
-training
-background checks

Have Americans been totally brainwashed to believe that is is a "good"?


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Re: Texas to allow unlicensed carrying of handguns
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2021, 12:50:36 am »
Add to this the bill does away with:

-licensing
-training
-background checks

Have Americans been totally brainwashed to believe that is is a "good"?
59% of Texas voters oppose unlicensed carry. I'm sure the percentage would be higher in many other states.

"A solid majority of Texas voters don’t think adults should be allowed to carry handguns in public places without permits or licenses, though the idea is popular with a 56% majority of Republicans. Overall, 59% oppose unlicensed carry — a number driven up by the 85% of Democrats who oppose it. On the Republican side, the gun questions revealed a gender gap. Among Republican men, 70% said they support unlicensed carry; 49% of Republican women oppose that position."
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/05/03/texas-voters-legislature-poll/


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Re: Texas to allow unlicensed carrying of handguns
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2021, 12:50:44 am »
Anyone 18 and older (or younger with a fake ID) can buy a gun in Texas. No qualification required other than ponying up the shinola.

If I were a Texas police officer, I'd be scouring the Internet for a job in another state.


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Re: Texas to allow unlicensed carrying of handguns
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2021, 07:37:12 am »
Anyone 18 and older (or younger with a fake ID) can buy a gun in Texas.
yeah this is a real problem, especially if you consider how easy it is to get a passable fake ID and how little establishments actually care about whether the ID they are presented with is fake or not.

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No qualification required other than ponying up the shinola.
excuse me WHAT?
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Re: Texas to allow unlicensed carrying of handguns
« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2021, 08:29:06 am »
yeah this is a real problem, especially if you consider how easy it is to get a passable fake ID and how little establishments actually care about whether the ID they are presented with is fake or not.
excuse me WHAT?
the simoleons--my slang got discombobulated.


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Re: Texas to allow unlicensed carrying of handguns
« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2021, 08:58:56 am »
The statistical odds of dying this way are so small they are not worth worrying about.

Homicides per 100,000:

USA: 5.35
World average: 7.03
Philippines: 11.02
South Africa: 33.97

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/murder-rate-by-country

The world’s a safe place. All countries are getting better in this regard.







I've spent lots of time in the US and have always felt safe even though I knew lots of folks with guns.  Most of the problems are inner city neighborhoods where police and politicians don't give a rats ass.  Political correctness and Al Sharpton's feeling are more important than making life safe for the urban poor.  So, that is where most of the murders and gun crimes are.  With defund the police, it is getting worse in some of these cities.  But many smaller towns and cities and rural areas were still pretty safe.  Though I do believe some crime has recently spread to some of these areas due to Obama putting government housing in these areas or so I heard.  But, I haven't been back to the States in over a decade so I can't say for sure on that one.  Point being most areas of the US are still pretty safe.  But, make buildings from schools to houses and walls inside buildings more bullet proof.  Come up with affordable and reasonable designs to make this possible.  That along with other folks being armed will shut down a lot of these cowardly mass shooters.  (That's what they are due to going to places where they think folks aren't armed.)  Broken families, broken kids and all that psychology.    Free love of the boomers and the broken homes that followed plus putting the kids in school on drugs (ritalin) instead of spanking them.  One is more cruel instead of the other. 


Re: Texas to allow unlicensed carrying of handguns
« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2021, 10:34:55 am »
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Re: Texas to allow unlicensed carrying of handguns
« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2021, 10:48:28 am »
the simoleons--my slang got discombobulated.
7/10 on the nerd scale. Solid effort, but its no quatloos.


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Re: Texas to allow unlicensed carrying of handguns
« Reply #32 on: May 28, 2021, 11:39:35 am »
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Re: Texas to allow unlicensed carrying of handguns
« Reply #33 on: May 28, 2021, 11:54:02 am »
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