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How many holes does a straw have?
« on: December 02, 2021, 01:53:06 pm »
my students asked me in my last class. what do you guys think?
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Re: How many holes does a straw have?
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2021, 01:58:31 pm »
Is this a regular straw or a Slurpee straw?
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Re: How many holes does a straw have?
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2021, 02:04:55 pm »
"A straw has a hole" means its defective or damaged.

A straw has two openings BY DEFINITION and zero holes if well made.

Now, you could say a piece of plastic cylinder with a hole at each end IS a straw, but there really isn't a hole at the end: that end has no covering side at all.

So, the answer is zero.

"Two holes" as an answer misrepresents what a hole is.

Just poke a pencil through the middle if a piece of paper and show students that as a hole.

Cut off the entire side of a box and it would not be a hole.
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Re: How many holes does a straw have?
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2021, 02:15:09 pm »
But what about those coffee stirrers? Can we count them as straws?
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Re: How many holes does a straw have?
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2021, 04:28:42 pm »
What about twizzlers?
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Re: How many holes does a straw have?
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2021, 05:28:11 pm »
No one is claiming necessary and sufficient conditions of a definition.

A pipe is not a straw, though both items are cylindrical without ends.

It's about the concept clarification of the word "hole" not that of straw.
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Re: How many holes does a straw have?
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2021, 05:33:05 pm »
Quote from: thunderlips on December 02, 2021, 04:28:42 pm
What about twizzlers?
Well, they are labeled as "candy straws" by the company.
https://youtu.be/pRYybHWWJ84

Children love to bite the ends off and blow.

And some people bite the ends off and suck, i.e., use them as straws.
https://youtu.be/3Xeeu2qfEUM

But this is beside the point.

The teacher is trying to teach students how to use the word "hole". The student already knows what a straw is.
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Re: How many holes does a straw have?
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2021, 05:48:20 pm »
VanIslander and his... suggestive posts!  :shocked:

Also, if we want to discuss straws, why not just ask one of our resident strawman experts?  :azn:
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Re: How many holes does a straw have?
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2021, 06:01:52 pm »
I must be getting old. It took me a minute to understand what Kyndo was saying. This is a teachers' frequented website. We usually post from work. Let's focus on the student's question.

Coincidentally, one of my classes had a birthday unit today with vocabulary "blow" along with "candle". There were straws in the picture. No student has ever asked me how many holes were in a straw. Is it even a real student question seeking to learn about the word "hole"?
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Re: How many holes does a straw have?
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2021, 06:06:14 am »
Is this just one more waygook straw man argument?
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