This thread reminds me of egg/spring rolls.

I didn't ask for recommendations. You confuse me with someone else.

Yeah, I confused you with Kayos, sorry.

You wrote: ''No, that does not dehumidify a room, unless it has a dehumidify feature.''

This is absolutely not true. They do remove humidity from the air. And that is when they are used on regular ''cooling'' setting. In fact, they are much more effective that way. You don't need the dehumidifier setting on them.
I have, and pretty sure most units, even the older ones have it. But it's way less effective. I never use the dehumidifier setting on my A/C because it doesn't do much. It's not just a ''feeling''. I have a hygrometer so it's easy to see what is going on.

Right, and what's going on is that aircon by itself is ineffective as a dehumidifier--to the extent that it would be disingenuous to describe it as functioning as a dehumidifier. 

Again, I have not yet had an aircon with a dehumidifier function--that is to say, a button.  They go through non-cooling drying as part of the cycle.  But you can get them that specifically have a dehumidifier mode, as in a selection you can make., via a button or other selection mechanism.  That's what I thought Van was talking about, and what I was responding to.

...it is, though? google it

Not in Seoul in August, pal. 

A/Cs do actively help to dehumidify the air even without a built-in dehumidify function (the act of cooling by itself will dehumidify), but there's a limit to how effective they are in that regard, especially if you live in a location with high humidity.

Adding a separate dehumidifier into an air-conditioned space will, in fact, dehumidify the air more than an A/C can do on its own, and will facilitate cooler air in the space faster as a result.

That's why a lot of places will recommend a dedicated dehumidifier along with an A/C -- it takes a lot of the strain away from the A/C and is more effective in the long-run anyway.

In that regard, my own A/C is very old and doesn't have a built-in dehumidifier, so the only dehumidifying it does is in the process of cooling itself. It's honestly a piece of crap, but it still "works," so I'm stuck with it unless I want to pay for a new one on my own dime. Before I got my first dehumidifier, it would take my A/C a full hour to cool my apartment down to 20C, and it still felt "moist" in my apartment. With the dehumidifier, it can get my apartment down to 19C in about 10-15 minutes, and it doesn't feel "wet."

It absolutely makes a difference, depending on where you live.

Yeah, I confused you with Kayos, sorry.


Right, and what's going on is that aircon by itself is ineffective as a dehumidifier--to the extent that it would be disingenuous to describe it as functioning as a dehumidifier. 

Again, I have not yet had an aircon with a dehumidifier function--that is to say, a button.  They go through non-cooling drying as part of the cycle.  But you can get them that specifically have a dehumidifier mode, as in a selection you can make., via a button or other selection mechanism.  That's what I thought Van was talking about, and what I was responding to.

Again, even if you have a dehumidifier setting on your A/C, it's never going to dry the air as effectively as running it on regular cooling setting.
An A/C can make the otherwise 80-90% RH go down to between 50 and 60% and keep it that way even if you set just 22-24 degrees Celsius. If you go lower than that, the humidity will go further down too. That's plenty good and makes a huge difference.

If you have a high-power unit in a smaller space, and/or set 25-26 celsius, it will not have to work very hard and will keep turning off, which will only reduce the RH marginally. Moisture is only being removed when the compressor is working. Just like a dehumidifier.

Isn't it your own browsing history that influences the ads you see?

You can set it to random, which is what I have mine on. Ads don't influence me to buy stuff very often, even if it's stuff that would be in my wheelhouse.