"...his comments in that thread were actually abhorrent. A wildly inappropriate time and place for him to impart his skepticism about the deaths and causes of death. As well as his personal judgements on the place as a whole like I quoted above before he removed it. The worst he's ever been I think."
Abstain pending an organized list of complaints/violations with citations and evidence, along with Van's defense.If we want rules and procedure to be upheld, this should be done through a rules-based structure following procedure, using evidence.
I haven't weighed in on anything about VanIslander's mod responsibilities until now. I read what other people wrote and had my own opinion about it, but didn't want to look like I was joining a pile-on, especially since some of the comments from Spliced (a user who spent 90% of his time on here abusing others, and was allowed to continue for an inordinately long time) were too personal and seemed designed to hurt his feelings, rather than improve the quality of the site. In short, I didn't want to join in anything that looked even a little like bullying.I've now been subject to VanIslander's overzealous, self-protective censorship, and better understand what others have been talking about.VanIslander's initial comments in the thread about the Itaewon disaster served only to question the validity of news reports and float vague "scepticism" a shade away from conspiracy theory. Once he accepted the facts of the situation, he used the opportunity to impart some of his father's wisdom about the dangers of crowds and discuss how he was going to use the situation in the classroom. A few of us, myself included, pointed out that this was solipsistic, irrelevant and tasteless.He deleted some of those remarks and demanded that we "Let the students speak."I asked if he thought that our issue was a) an unwillingness to let students speak or b) the tone and content of his previous posts. There was no insult attached to the question, and I didn't fire any personal digs at him. It was just the question. He deleted that, too.Since then, he has been very vocally expressing sympathy and shock at what occurred at Itaewon. I commented that if he was sincere in his sympathies, he should allow us to explain why we thought his previous comments were distasteful. He could have explained those comments further, or apologized for them, or asked me for more clarification about my objections. Instead he deleted my post.Just want this on record. I don't want to be part of a website with this kind of power given to someone who clearly doesn't know how to use it responsibly.
So says self inserting Judge Martin!
So unless regular users were lucky enough to catch him in the act (after midnight and drunk), the vast majority of his infractions are lost to the void from his own doing.
Even you thought he crossed the line yesterday which is directly what spurred this poll.
I wrote this on the Ranting / Raving thread as that's where a lot of discussion on VI's behavior has taken place. Maybe a good idea to put it here in case he deletes it from the other thread.
The ranting thread is the place to, well, RANT. As long people aren't being insulted, one is free to rant there.
I hate taking notes. I'm going to abstain, partly because I'm lazy, but mostly because this seems like a poll meant for non-mod users.
I'd like to point out that gogators! has been calling for Van's ouster and pretty much dared me to have it put to a question of him or Van. Perhaps a subpoll of who would you rather have as a mod- gogators! or Van?
Perhaps a subpoll of who would you rather have as a mod
I did no such thing. Can you post without lying? Following up on another of your posts, can you provide citations/evidence that demonstrates why you so strongly support VI?Or is it just that toadying is as natural to you as breathing?
Quote from: JonVoightCar on October 20, 2022, 09:30:58 amYou're welcome to campaign against Van in a bid to be a mod. For all his perceived flaws, I suspect the vast majority of posters would support Van over you being a mod. There is A LOT worse out there.Whatever Van's faults are, they are relatively minor compared to what could be taking place and has happened in other forums.Quote from: gogators! on October 24, 2022, 08:07:43 pmI can smell the fear.
You're welcome to campaign against Van in a bid to be a mod. For all his perceived flaws, I suspect the vast majority of posters would support Van over you being a mod. There is A LOT worse out there.Whatever Van's faults are, they are relatively minor compared to what could be taking place and has happened in other forums.
I can smell the fear.
A poll on which active posters would make a good mod might be a very good idea, especially if the results are overwhelmingly in favor of one particular candidate.
