Topic: What has changed/is changing the most in South Korea? Read 2231 times

VanIslander · « **on:** November 09, 2022, 09:00:30 pm »

Inflation? (e.g., strawberries no longer 5000 won)
Height? (e.g., 170+ cm middle schoolers becoming the norm)
Frozen food? (e.g., supermarkets shrinking fresh and expanding frozen section into entire aisles)
The rise in 24/7 self-serve, clerk-less stores.
Swear words in the classroom.

Etc.

lonestar_mel · « **Reply #1 on:** November 10, 2022, 12:40:41 pm »

Although I have been here for nearly a year, a lot changed in my classrooms since I first started. My 5th grade students got a little too comfortable using swear words (such as the F word, WTH, WTF, B***h...) in front of their homeroom teachers who don't speak English well. When I asked them where did they learn this, they all said TikTok. They all got in serious trouble when I let the homeroom teachers know what those words mean. T-T

hangook77 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 10, 2022, 12:55:55 pm »

Quote from: lonestar_mel on November 10, 2022, 12:40:41 pm

Although I have been here for nearly a year, a lot changed in my classrooms since I first started. My 5th grade students got a little too comfortable using swear words (such as the F word, WTH, WTF, B***h...) in front of their homeroom teachers who don't speak English well. When I asked them where did they learn this, they all said TikTok. They all got in serious trouble when I let the homeroom teachers know what those words mean. T-T

Be glad you aren't in MIddle School. There the kids would swear and the teachers most of the time would ignore it and do nothing about it and I mean they swear in Korean.

Kyndo · « **Reply #3 on:** November 10, 2022, 01:04:23 pm »

Depends on the school, because I'm lucky enough not to have to deal with that.

On the other hand, a good friend of mine taught at a vocational school, and if all they had to deal with was swearing, it would be considered an excellent day. They got paid a fair bit extra at that school for extra lessons etc, but eventually had to give it up because it was too dangerous to be in the classroom without any kind of back-up. Crazy crazy.

lonestar_mel · « **Reply #4 on:** November 10, 2022, 01:35:51 pm »

Quote from: Kyndo on November 10, 2022, 01:04:23 pm

On the other hand, a good friend of mine taught at a vocational school, and if all they had to deal with was swearing, it would be considered an excellent day.

That's insane! I don't think I would be capable to handle those kind of kids.

Quote from: hangook77 on November 10, 2022, 12:55:55 pm

There the kids would swear and the teachers most of the time would ignore it and do nothing about it and I mean they swear in Korean.

Wowwwwwww. Has this always been a issue with middle school kids in Korea or did it get worse with the rise of social media? I remember using profanity in middle school but never in the classroom. Even the bad kids at my school showed respect when inside the classroom.

Renma · « **Reply #5 on:** November 10, 2022, 01:52:33 pm »

I dont think its particularly new behaviour, at least it was around when I started back in 2015. A lot of it was from Youtubers and Korean comedians, as well as western shows/movies. Whether they do it in class or not depends on the school and the teacher present.

I assume by rise of social media you mean tiktok, because social media has been around for what, 15 odd years now?

lonestar_mel · « **Reply #6 on:** November 10, 2022, 03:22:32 pm »

Quote from: Renma on November 10, 2022, 01:52:33 pm

I assume by rise of social media you mean tiktok, because social media has been around for what, 15 odd years now?

Yeah, mostly TikTok and IG Reels. Wild how Social Media has been around for that long. All my kids have TikTok and they like to share with me what they found or do crazy challenges during break time. What I find alarming is they somehow find content that's meant for mature viewers. I'm thinking this is how they learn profanity which is through famous content creators who aren't afraid to use those words on the platform. With my kids they got MUCH more bold as the year progressed using bad words. I yelled at my 5th graders for the first time a few months ago to NEVER use such words in school. I'm curious how other ESL teachers handle this at their schools/hagwons.

MayorHaggar · « **Reply #7 on:** November 10, 2022, 04:11:03 pm »

What happened next, Van? Did he take the bet?

Orkblut · « **Reply #8 on:** November 10, 2022, 06:46:28 pm »

Have shoe sizes remained the same?

Savant · « **Reply #9 on:** November 10, 2022, 08:22:31 pm »

Quote from: Orkblut on November 10, 2022, 06:46:28 pm

Have shoe sizes remained the same?

My Middle School students are getting taller and some have bigger feet. Must be hard to find shoes because....

Brick and mortar store, pretty much the same stock (US10 and less). Unless, you go to one of the outlets, and even finding a big size there, is rare.

I've gotten a few shoes from Coupang, when the sales comes around, but bigger sizes sell out fast. And big by Korean sizing, seems to be anything more than a US11.

VanIslander · « **Reply #10 on:** November 11, 2022, 12:20:12 am »

I won! Yesterday I found a 320cm pair of non-ugly shoes (my feet touched three frogs previously) in the downtown Jinju market after years of 290 cm maximum shoe stores in this town and the two closest. I would have gone Daegu, Seoul or Busan if COVID hadn't hit. I'd been riding with the same footwear since early 2019. Wear and tear rips up shoes of all kinds. I usually walk two or three hours every morn (hence my walking misspelt moments); not now.

One of my wildest lucky moments in this country was while taking a spring cherry blossom trip with coworkers down a valley near Namhae - no, not the sea but "Namhae-gun", really should be called Namhae-do (as internationally its recognized as the 4th biggest island of Korea - anyways, alongside the road, waaay outside any city or town, a roadside shoe vendor had only one pair of white tennis shoes, 13 wide, at a fork in the road among the rice paddies, and it fit like a glove. It took me years to realize how RARE or lucky that was for me. Yeah, since then an Itaewon shoe tailor (cobbler? *shrug*) has offered twice to tailor fit a pair. But I've never paid more than $100 for a pair of shoes, and i wasn't gonna start to.

Kyndo · « **Reply #11 on:** November 11, 2022, 08:13:28 am »

I think you might mean 320mm.

waygo0k · « **Reply #12 on:** November 11, 2022, 08:25:25 am »

Quote from: VanIslander on November 11, 2022, 12:20:12 am

I won! Yesterday I found a 320cm pair of non-ugly shoes

745sticky · « **Reply #13 on:** November 11, 2022, 09:54:06 am »

Quote from: lonestar_mel on November 10, 2022, 03:22:32 pm

I'm curious how other ESL teachers handle this at their schools/hagwons.

i hear the occasional f*ck or catch a student flipping another off every now and then. they apologize immediately, so they definitely know its wrong, it doesnt really bother me since honestly most swear words have become normalized, even in professional environments. as long as they know they shouldnt swear in school i dont see much point going overboard to enforce a standard that hardly even exists

Billy Herrington · « **Reply #14 on:** November 11, 2022, 01:12:38 pm »

Quote from: VanIslander on November 11, 2022, 12:20:12 am

I won! Yesterday I found a 320cm pair of non-ugly shoes (my feet touched three frogs previously) in the downtown Jinju market after years of 290 cm maximum shoe stores in this town and the two closest. I would have gone Daegu, Seoul or Busan if COVID hadn't hit. I'd been riding with the same footwear since early 2019. Wear and tear rips up shoes of all kinds. I usually walk two or three hours every morn (hence my walking misspelt moments); not now.

One of my wildest lucky moments in this country was while taking a spring cherry blossom trip with coworkers down a valley near Namhae - no, not the sea but "Namhae-gun", really should be called Namhae-do (as internationally its recognized as the 4th biggest island of Korea - anyways, alongside the road, waaay outside any city or town, a roadside shoe vendor had only one pair of white tennis shoes, 13 wide, at a fork in the road among the rice paddies, and it fit like a glove. It took me years to realize how RARE or lucky that was for me. Yeah, since then an Itaewon shoe tailor (cobbler? *shrug*) has offered twice to tailor fit a pair. But I've never paid more than $100 for a pair of shoes, and i wasn't gonna start to.

You young people are privileged these days. Back when I was growing up we didn't have shoe stores. Not even on the side of the road. Heck we had to go out hunting and make our own moccasins out of whatever hide we could get. Sometimes you got lucky and shot a deer. Other times, well, you had to make do with leaves and pine cones. They were prickly but they got the job done. Years ago I bought a pair of shoes when I was on holiday on Hainan, that's like the hawaii of China if china was in the USA (I know it's not, I studied geography, ok?) and man were they the bee's knees AKA the cat's miao (that's the chinese spelling) AKA the best damn thing ever since sliced bread. Who invented sliced bread anyway? Bet he's rich now and living the high life off the royalties he gets every time someone sells his product. Anyway I bought this pair of shoes from a man selling shoes beside the road. he had a shaggy dog with him and weirdly wanted to tell me a story about the time he made a bet with someone at his high school and the guy paid up reluctantly. Anyway I bought the shoes and he said that to make them for properly I had to soak them in a can of coca cola (not pepsi, and it couldn't be diet) for exactly 23 minutes, take them out, drain them, dry them in the sun, and then put them on and not take them off for 14 and a half hours. Worked like a charm I'll tell ya what . I hope young people like Van Darkholme can understand the joys of washing your shoes in coca cola (not the store brand junk) and it will open their mind to a new way of wearing shoes.

Jethro Bodine · « **Reply #15 on:** November 11, 2022, 01:37:33 pm »

Hahaha!...good one Billy

Billy Herrington · « **Reply #16 on:** November 11, 2022, 01:42:44 pm »

Thank you Jethro Tull. They were a favorite band in my high school. we didn't have stereos to listen to them on. We had to fashion reckords out of old x-rays

Jethro Bodine · « **Reply #17 on:** November 11, 2022, 01:58:43 pm »

Yeah, 'Aqualung' is still played in my house today. Bought the album first in 1976. have replaced it about 5 times over. Not a great fan of all their music, but Aqualung is very cool, as too Ian Anderson.

VanIslander · « **Reply #18 on:** November 12, 2022, 10:03:51 pm »

Quote from: Kyndo on November 11, 2022, 08:13:28 am

I think you might mean 320mm.

Indeed.

In Canada i'd say size "13 wide".
My best friend from elementary school to high school was bigger, he of Dane Viking heritage, today 6'4, bald, heavily bearded red, on his 2nd marriage, with two teenage boys he coached in football, one already in college.

Note: He and his 2nd wife (the one he deserves) would have been here in South Korea, on Jeju, in April 2020 as planned if friggin' COVID19 didn't suddenly turned the world upside down.

Billy Herrington · « **Reply #19 on:** November 12, 2022, 10:18:17 pm »

In Canada we called my friend "double wide" but that was a reference to his back end

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