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  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1032

    • January 27, 2018, 03:56:10 pm
    • Gyeongi-do
Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2022, 08:27:34 am »
Well, it might depend on the amount or the store.  This is with my debit card.

At the supermarket, whether Emart or HomePlus, a screen comes up asking if I want to pay lump sum, or 2-, 3-, 4- months, etc.

I go to the pharmacist for refills every six months, and he asks if I want to pay lump sum or other.  But if I buy 4 for 11,000 W at CU, it never comes up.

I believe 50.000 krw is the cut-off figure. Above that, you can choose the divided payment option at certain stores.


Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2022, 09:15:29 pm »
In China we pay for everything using our phones. I haven't swiped a card here in years.
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  • Waygook Lord

    • 6323

    • March 16, 2016, 04:35:48 pm
    • Seoul
Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2022, 11:27:17 pm »
In China we pay for everything using our phones. I haven't swiped a card here in years.
Much easier for the government to track you that way. Can even the little convenience stores--the one that use quilted blankets for doors in the winter--do this?


  • Mr C
  • The Legend

    • 3792

    • October 17, 2012, 03:00:40 pm
    • Seoul
Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #23 on: Yesterday at 07:01:26 am »
Much easier for the government to track you that way. Can even the little convenience stores--the one that use quilted blankets for doors in the winter--do this?

I was there in 2019, and street food stalls and little old ladies selling veggies had it.  It's an app on your phone linked to your bank. 


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  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1419

    • March 08, 2018, 07:04:54 pm
    • Sierra Leone
Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #24 on: Yesterday at 07:04:04 am »


Tax evasion is huge in China. Electronic payment systems ensure people
pay their fair share of taxes. Korea used to be the same. Now that the
government has more money the services they supply are much better.

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Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #25 on: Yesterday at 08:11:33 am »
Much easier for the government to track you that way. Can even the little convenience stores--the one that use quilted blankets for doors in the winter--do this?

Anyone can use it. The government's tracking isn't nearly as good as most people think. They can access the information but they need to request it, which is a really inefficient process.


Tax evasion is huge in China. Electronic payment systems ensure people
pay their fair share of taxes. Korea used to be the same. Now that the
government has more money the services they supply are much better.

I guarantee you that online payments didn't magically make the people of China start paying their taxes.
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  • Super Waygook

    • 486

    • September 01, 2014, 06:09:42 am
Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #26 on: Yesterday at 09:22:11 am »
It's not like they are downloading a CCCP app. Everybody uses Wechat pay in China (I don't know if other apps have taken over since I last went, but I doubt it).
It's not much different from how everyone uses Kakao pay or Samsung pay here in Korea, with physical cash/cards being used less and less.


Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #27 on: Yesterday at 09:39:55 am »
I still wouldn't put a lot of trust in these apps. I know a guy who got hauled into the police station and drug tested, allegedly because he used Taobao to buy marijuana paraphernalia. I don't know if that was the real reason or if it's just what he told us because the real story was more embarrassing, but he tested positive and spent two weeks in jail. I guess the moral of the story is don't use it to pay the weed man.
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  • Renma
  • Super Waygook

    • 486

    • September 01, 2014, 06:09:42 am
Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #28 on: Yesterday at 09:53:44 am »
Is that down to the the payment processor? Or is it the the storefront, the ISP, the courier company or customs who flagged him? I wouldn't try to buy drugs via Kakaopay either.

Not saying Wechat/tencent are worthy of blind trust, but they don't exist to make you pay taxes or track you.  You just have to watch your step and be sensible in certain countries.

Obviously this isn't directed at you biliwang, not presuming to lecture you on the country you live in. More so others who react blindly to the word CHINA.


Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #29 on: Yesterday at 10:17:33 am »
Is that down to the the payment processor? Or is it the the storefront, the ISP, the courier company or customs who flagged him? I wouldn't try to buy drugs via Kakaopay either.

Allegedly the police busted the taobao shop because it was selling rollies and bongs, and got their client list, though I suspect he actually got caught doing something much stupider.

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Not saying Wechat/tencent are worthy of blind trust, but they don't exist to make you pay taxes or track you.  You just have to watch your step and be sensible in certain countries.

Nowadays they use Alipay to run their Covid contact tracing, which was meant to track us but then Covid blew up and we realized it wasn't tracking us at all. We do, however, need to download a CCP app to file our tax returns. I make sure to delete that one after filing and reinstall it when I need it. That said, the app doesn't have any means of making you pay taxes. I know people who owe thousands and nothing has happened yet.
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  • Super Waygook

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    • September 01, 2014, 06:09:42 am
Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #30 on: Yesterday at 10:51:33 am »
Interesting, I haven't been there since Covid (obviously) so this is news to me. We used QR codes via Naver and Kakao for tracing so it isn't dissimilar (also turned out to be useless once case numbers really ramped up). Paying taxes via a government portal is also pretty standard.

Where do you download said apps from? Is it from a reliable storefront that would check apps for backdoors/malware, or do you download directly from websites?


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  • Waygook Lord

    • 5572

    • September 14, 2017, 09:10:12 am
    • Near Busan
Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #31 on: Yesterday at 11:43:11 am »
I still wouldn't put a lot of trust in these apps. I know a guy who got hauled into the police station and drug tested, allegedly because he used Taobao to buy marijuana paraphernalia. I don't know if that was the real reason or if it's just what he told us because the real story was more embarrassing, but he tested positive and spent two weeks in jail. I guess the moral of the story is don't use it to pay the weed man.

Pretty dumb to buy that stuff in Asia.  Or even bring it in with you.  Many countries are hard core against that stuff.  Just look at the basketball player who went to Russia. 
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Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #32 on: Yesterday at 12:15:52 pm »
Interesting, I haven't been there since Covid (obviously) so this is news to me. We used QR codes via Naver and Kakao for tracing so it isn't dissimilar (also turned out to be useless once case numbers really ramped up). Paying taxes via a government portal is also pretty standard.

Where do you download said apps from? Is it from a reliable storefront that would check apps for backdoors/malware, or do you download directly from websites?

I download them from the Huawei app store. The government doesn't need a back door. Because of the National Security Law they can walk in the front whenever they want without a warrant.

Pretty dumb to buy that stuff in Asia.  Or even bring it in with you.  Many countries are hard core against that stuff.  Just look at the basketball player who went to Russia. 

He didn't smuggle it into China himself. He bought weed from his dealer and bought rollies on taobao. Allegedly. I think he probably got caught doing something much stupider.
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Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #33 on: Yesterday at 12:38:25 pm »
Rollies? Is that some new slang for papers? Why do that if you're in a big city? Just go to a tobacco store and buy a box of papers.

Or next time on your way home just buy the cheapest pouch of Top or Bugler you can  get, buy a bunch of Rizlas (don't risk hemp papers like Skunks) and take em out of the pack and toss em in the pouch of Top just loose. Also, don't dress like a complete scuzzbucket on the plane and you'll be fine.

Or considering the fact that you already live in China, you could probably find uber-thin rice paper somewhere that you say you need for cooking or paper art or whatever and just take it home and cut it up.

Of course, drugs make you stupid, so this person 1) Probably didn't think but just felt when it came to doing all of this 2) Thinks "There's only one REAL brand of papers mannnnnn" 3) Is mystified that looking and dressing like a person who does drugs causes people to think he does drugs, when he actually does drugs 4) Probably so focused on drugs, he didn't notice where he was.   


Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #34 on: Yesterday at 12:44:24 pm »
Rollies? Is that some new slang for papers? Why do that if you're in a big city? Just go to a tobacco store and buy a box of papers.

That's why I'm not buying it. I think he probably did actually pay his weed man on Wechat.

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Or considering the fact that you already live in China, you could probably find uber-thin rice paper somewhere that you say you need for cooking or paper art or whatever and just take it home and cut it up.

Most people use ones based on vegetable oil. They don't taste too bad.

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Of course, drugs make you stupid, so this person 1) Probably didn't think but just felt when it came to doing all of this 2) Thinks "There's only one REAL brand of papers mannnnnn" 3) Is mystified that looking and dressing like a person who does drugs causes people to think he does drugs, when he actually does drugs 4) Probably so focused on drugs, he didn't notice where he was.

There was a big crackdown on drugs from 2017 until Covid hit. Some people didn't think they would get caught, so they could be pretty brazen. "No officer. This isn't an illegal drug. It's a Canadian cigarette."
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Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #35 on: Yesterday at 05:41:30 pm »
This is the kind of thing anyone who seriously pokes smot knows to not do and how to avoid so yeah, I kind of think this guy A) Was sort of dim to begin with and didn't have his experienced stoner friends from back home to make sure he didn't do something dumb or B) Didn't smoke that much but decided to try and buy some so that him and all his friends (probably also trying to impress some girl) could smoke together.