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People are still using checks???
« on: November 18, 2022, 01:28:14 pm »

I was watching NBC News and there was a story on check theft from mail
boxes.  I did a double take on this. People still use this kind of payment?
It is 200 years out of date.

I remember living in North America and getting a check. Then having to go
to a bank. Then having to show ID. Then having to wait until it clears. Then
having to withdraw cash. Then looking to see how many fees were deducted.

Wow, terrible, outdated system. I can't believe it still exists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NusVbBkYmQ



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Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2022, 10:21:02 pm »
I'd rather write a check than use venmo or the like on the rare occasion I need to pay an individual for some type of service. I pay as much as possible with a CC to get the cash back. Monthly payments are either made direct from a CC or the bank.


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Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2022, 09:21:38 am »
I'd rather write a check than use venmo or the like on the rare occasion I need to pay an individual for some type of service. I pay as much as possible with a CC to get the cash back. Monthly payments are either made direct from a CC or the bank.

Yeah, but you can just send money to their account using your phone.

This is 2022.


« Last Edit: November 19, 2022, 09:53:39 am by SPQR »
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Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2022, 03:46:16 am »
Yeah, but you can just send money to their account using your phone.

This is 2022.



Nah.

Writing a check is no big deal. Plus, some companies charge you an extra 3% for using a CC, etc. That would have cost me almost $1,100 on the patio enclosure I had built this year (2022).


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Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2022, 11:14:52 am »
Cheques, please use our language correctly.
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Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2022, 11:17:09 am »
Some merchants don't like to take them because there's a chance they might bounce, and there's little recourse when that happens.
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Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2022, 01:38:16 pm »
Yeah and those stupid paper things with all the words in them. Get into the 22nd century already, ammirite?!


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Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2022, 02:24:08 pm »


Yeah, and yuse fones with dials and push butins, ammirite?

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Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2022, 05:19:22 pm »
Yeah man, ...... yeah

But seriously sometimes checks are handy, cashiers checks for moving large sums, government tax refund and stimuli checks, paying for stuff off the back of mad magazine, the list goes on


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Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2022, 10:21:34 pm »
Yeah man, ...... yeah

But seriously sometimes checks are handy, cashiers checks for moving large sums, government tax refund and stimuli checks, paying for stuff off the back of mad magazine, the list goes on
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Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2022, 10:30:16 pm »
Do those x-ray specs really work?

Turns out my Female Body Inspector card was as fake as Herschel Walker's Sheriff badge.


Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2022, 11:09:15 pm »
Yeah, and my sea monkeys didn't play and do tricks. Nearly cried!


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Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2022, 11:13:15 am »
I was watching NBC News and there was a story on check theft from mail
boxes.  I did a double take on this. People still use this kind of payment?
It is 200 years out of date.

I remember living in North America and getting a check. Then having to go
to a bank. Then having to show ID. Then having to wait until it clears. Then
having to withdraw cash. Then looking to see how many fees were deducted.

Wow, terrible, outdated system. I can't believe it still exists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NusVbBkYmQ





Americans still use checks.  Also debit cards use to not come out of the bank account right away when swiped at the store though that may be changing now.  It means some folks may not be issued checks or debit cards and many banks may not open accounts if they have hits on their records charging up the debit cards and writing bad checks plus a bad credit rating in the US.  I worked briefly for a US company from Canada called E- Funds which ran the whole system making suggestions to banks and to merchants.  It was years ago, but left me shaking my head at the whole inefficiency of the US system.  Folks wrote checks at the grocery store for small items.  (Stores scanned your drivers license or state ID to see if you had any previous bad check writing before they would accept your check.)  Checks had been extinct in Canada for years before this except for paying the rent and a couple of other small items.  But day to day no one used checks.  We used debit cards and the money came out of your account right away or the sale was declined immediately if the funds were not in your account.  But the US system things were not all linked hence the problems.  Too many banks and too many people.  This was nearly 20 years ago before I came to Korea though.  So that may change now.  I was able to use my Canadian debit card in US stores in 2008 and in their banks machines though with no problems. 
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Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2022, 08:51:12 pm »
Yeah man, ...... yeah

But seriously sometimes checks are handy, cashiers checks for moving large sums, government tax refund and stimuli checks, paying for stuff off the back of mad magazine, the list goes on

Okay, but government checks are paid instantly. They don't need to clear. cashiers checks are similar.

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Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2022, 10:07:12 pm »
Americans still use checks.  Also debit cards use to not come out of the bank account right away when swiped at the store though that may be changing now.  It means some folks may not be issued checks or debit cards and many banks may not open accounts if they have hits on their records charging up the debit cards and writing bad checks plus a bad credit rating in the US.  I worked briefly for a US company from Canada called E- Funds which ran the whole system making suggestions to banks and to merchants.  It was years ago, but left me shaking my head at the whole inefficiency of the US system.  Folks wrote checks at the grocery store for small items.  (Stores scanned your drivers license or state ID to see if you had any previous bad check writing before they would accept your check.)  Checks had been extinct in Canada for years before this except for paying the rent and a couple of other small items.  But day to day no one used checks.  We used debit cards and the money came out of your account right away or the sale was declined immediately if the funds were not in your account.  But the US system things were not all linked hence the problems.  Too many banks and too many people.  This was nearly 20 years ago before I came to Korea though.  So that may change now.  I was able to use my Canadian debit card in US stores in 2008 and in their banks machines though with no problems. 
No. With a debit card the money comes out immediately. That's why it's always recommended to use a CC to provide yourself with some security.


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Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2022, 07:54:44 am »
No. With a debit card the money comes out immediately. That's why it's always recommended to use a CC to provide yourself with some security.
Yes and no (but mostly yes). It depends on the kind of debit card, apparently.
If it's the kind where you are required to enter a PIN for every transaction, then yes, the transaction is immediate.
However, many debit cards actually use something very similar to the credit system where the transaction amount is put on hold by the issuing bank for a period of time. The amount *appears* to be withdrawn from the account, but is actually being held in a kind of limbo by the bank. It can still be easily returned if there are verification problems.

Here's an article on the 2 kinds of debit cards systems used in the US.

Also, to the previous poster:  "I use to do that." is grammatically incorrect. It needs to be put in past tense ("I used to do that") unless it's preceded by "did" ("We did use to do that."). Here's a quick guide on how to use "use" when referring to something from the past that is no longer true
« Last Edit: November 22, 2022, 07:56:21 am by Kyndo »


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Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2022, 07:58:47 am »
No. With a debit card the money comes out immediately. That's why it's always recommended to use a CC to provide yourself with some security.

Well, this was almost 20 years ago.  Check systems and E Funds were the company I worked indirectly for.  Outsourced some of their work to Canada and it was there we learned about the US system.  We were all shocked at the time. 
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Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2022, 09:57:59 pm »
Yes and no (but mostly yes). It depends on the kind of debit card, apparently.
If it's the kind where you are required to enter a PIN for every transaction, then yes, the transaction is immediate.
However, many debit cards actually use something very similar to the credit system where the transaction amount is put on hold by the issuing bank for a period of time. The amount *appears* to be withdrawn from the account, but is actually being held in a kind of limbo by the bank. It can still be easily returned if there are verification problems.

Here's an article on the 2 kinds of debit cards systems used in the US.

Also, to the previous poster:  "I use to do that." is grammatically incorrect. It needs to be put in past tense ("I used to do that") unless it's preceded by "did" ("We did use to do that."). Here's a quick guide on how to use "use" when referring to something from the past that is no longer true
Yes and no. My debit card requires the use of a PIN and from the frequency of times I see people entering a PIN I'd guess that the majority of debit cards work on that principle. I would also posit that companies would much rather accept these types of debit cards since the processing fees would be lower, as they are when compared to credit cards.

The article says the consumer chooses the method of processing the debit card but doesn't elaborate on how one does that. You can push credit instead of debit, but I'd bet the machine is going to process the debit card one way and credit cards another way.


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Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2022, 10:24:35 pm »
Yes and no. My debit card requires the use of a PIN and from the frequency of times I see people entering a PIN I'd guess that the majority of debit cards work on that principle. I would also posit that companies would much rather accept these types of debit cards since the processing fees would be lower, as they are when compared to credit cards.

The article says the consumer chooses the method of processing the debit card but doesn't elaborate on how one does that. You can push credit instead of debit, but I'd bet the machine is going to process the debit card one way and credit cards another way.

Well, it might depend on the amount or the store.  This is with my debit card.

At the supermarket, whether Emart or HomePlus, a screen comes up asking if I want to pay lump sum, or 2-, 3-, 4- months, etc.

I go to the pharmacist for refills every six months, and he asks if I want to pay lump sum or other.  But if I buy 4 for 11,000 W at CU, it never comes up.


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Re: People are still using checks???
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2022, 11:55:19 pm »
Well, it might depend on the amount or the store.  This is with my debit card.

At the supermarket, whether Emart or HomePlus, a screen comes up asking if I want to pay lump sum, or 2-, 3-, 4- months, etc.

I go to the pharmacist for refills every six months, and he asks if I want to pay lump sum or other.  But if I buy 4 for 11,000 W at CU, it never comes up.
Yes, I remember that in Korea they were always asking if you wanted to spread out your payments. I was speaking of in the US. Remember that in Korea, the government has promoted the use of credit cards, and I would guess debit cards, so they could better track store income to increase tax collections.

Somewhat related, almost every sales website I visit now offers to let you pay over several months or longer. They're really trying to suck people in.

Easy credit it a two-edged sword.