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Offline yfb

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Bomb games are a sign of a lazy teacher
« on: November 08, 2013, 05:35:07 PM »
This was originally posted in another topic, but I felt it warranted further discussion here.

I don't think I've done a bomb game all year. I don't like them because only one student is really involved at a time. Maybe his friends will tell him the answer if he doesn't know but that's not exactly a lot of practice. The other kids just zone out and look at the animations until it's their turn.

If you design a bomb game with 30 questions for a class of 30, that means every student speaks exactly one sentence for the whole game. If you put them into groups of 5-6 it means that one student per team says 5 sentences and the rest just zone out and scream when a bomb pops up. There is simply way too much down time where the students just sit and wait, or more likely talk to their friends and doodle on their desks.

I can't agree with you more. Back in 2007, bomb games were fun and interesting side diversion every once in a while. Then more and more people started using them in their lesson plans and started posting them for every single lesson. All these bomb games do is promote lazy teaching. I use bomb games as a last resort - when I absolutely cannot think of anything else to make a lesson interesting, or when I get a last minute notice to plan for a class. That goes for other PPT games as well, like Pass the Ball.

I bulk download materials to sift through to find great gems for my class. Inevitably the file list ends up looking like this. I've highlighted the overused or trite PPT games of which variants are posted in nearly every lesson topic.



Are we as teachers so hard up for lesson ideas that we have to repost reskinned variants of these games for every lesson?

I have a theory to predict EFL teacher quality: it's inversely proportional to how many bomb games/Pass the Ball games a semester the teacher has planned. Put simply, the more bomb games a teacher plays a semester, the worse that teacher is. Not an ironclad rule, but more a general sense. What educational purpose do they serve?

Please post more interesting activities that don't involve PPT games.

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Re: Bomb games are a sign of a lazy teacher
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2013, 05:39:53 PM »
Cute.

My kids enjoy bomb games. If you can't figure out how to have more than one student speaking at once, you're not doing it right. Ideally, at almost any level, the teacher shouldn't have to speak at all while playing a bomb game.

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Re: Bomb games are a sign of a lazy teacher
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2013, 06:06:08 PM »
I think part of it is that ppt games are easily shared on a site like this. What is difficult to share is how you actually teach. It's pretty harsh to paint everyone as lazy without seeing them teach, or more importantly how well their students are dealing with the materials. I make a lot of games when I have down time, but I don't really use them much in regular class. We pretty much seem to use them before tests for unit review.

I have a daycare class almost everyday, we play a lot of games because I was told to keep it light and fun. It's not always technology driven.

I just noticed that a large percentage of the attachments that you post are videos. You could run your same argument that "the more bomb games videos a teacher plays a semester, the worse that teacher is.' This all depends on how the materials are used. If you just play videos all class (which I don't think you do) then it'd be as bad or worse than what you said about the bomb games.

What I didn't see in your post history was your own solution for your request that other users "Please post more interesting activities that don't involve PPT games."

I've seen quite a bit on this site when it comes to non ppt activities, but a lot of it is largely long form written instructions or things that require a lot of prep work. Not something you can just download and be set to run with. When you make a post like this that is complaining about what people do share, and then call them lazy teachers for doing it, you might want to actually provide examples of how to do it better rather than just telling people to make better things for you to download.

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Re: Bomb games are a sign of a lazy teacher
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2013, 08:24:36 PM »
oooooohhh Zeegs serving up a hot plate of snapper doodle cookies!!! WHUT WHUT!

no but seriously Zeegs, GG, +1.

@yfb
if you don't like bomb games, why'd you down load 11 of them?

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I bulk download materials

ah, I think I found your problem.

anywho, every week I'm asked, "please don't teach, just show a movie" I give my fake nyahaha chuckle and teach my lesson regardless. well this week due to SAT finals for important classes my kids got a episode of simpsons followed by a bomb game. teachers thanked me, said it was wonderful, and couldn't be happier. I couldn't have been more upset. a robot could replace my "job". but it is what the school wants. sooo, my point is...well I'm not so sure, something like, don't hate da playa, hate da game dawg.

There is a lot I want to say, but it has been said a thousand times on waygook and Zeeg said it rather well so eh.

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Please post more interesting activities that don't involve PPT games.

surely you see the humor in this? you are upset about teachers being lazy and not giving you better things to download? 

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Re: Bomb games are a sign of a lazy teacher
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2013, 09:37:22 PM »
I'm not fond of bomb games either. I also don't like showing movies in class.

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Re: Bomb games are a sign of a lazy teacher
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2013, 10:59:00 PM »
I use the Bomb games as a reward system. The students know that it's not as involved, and much more exciting than regular/everyday lessons. I think you can have a balance. So, for example, I give my kids marks for good participation and effort. If everyone in the class has accumulated a certain number of points by the end of a week-two week period, I'll have a day set aside for fun stuff like bomb games or what have you. However, I do agree, showing movies in class is pretty - .... it's just not a good idea unless the clip is like 10 minutes or less - something that gets a point across for your lesson.

I work at a Hagwon and all too often, when talking candidly with students, they'll gleefully say "Oh Teacher! I watched a movie in English class today!" or something to that affect.

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Re: Bomb games are a sign of a lazy teacher
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2013, 03:23:08 AM »
Only lazy teachers use bomb games? No, lazy teachers spend the semester downloading other people's work and then wasting extra time complaining about what other teachers do. Get real.

Bomb games are fine. I use them in the final unit of each lesson as a review after some writing and reading check-ups. The class is separated into groups, and on each turn one student from a group stands up and answers the question. Then the entire group answers together. Usually I have follow-up questions. At the beginning of the year they got really annoyed because I'm a stickler about speaking loudly and using complete sentences, but now they all answer in unison, loud and clear.

This is just a fluff thread for the OP's ego.

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Re: Bomb games are a sign of a lazy teacher
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2013, 04:24:14 AM »
I can honestly say that I've never played a bomb game in my entire 2.5 years teaching here...

...My classes don't have enough time between playing the CD's, doing the work books, and doing the daily quizzes.

So there's that at least.

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Re: Bomb games are a sign of a lazy teacher
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2013, 09:08:52 AM »
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Please post more interesting activities that don't involve PPT games.

surely you see the humor in this? you are upset about teachers being lazy and not giving you better things to download?

Ha. My thoughts, exactly.
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Re: Bomb games are a sign of a lazy teacher
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2013, 11:47:29 AM »
It depends on the situation. It can be if that's all you do. I usually include one bomb game per lesson as a treat at the end.

Most often I tailor that bomb game around ppts I've done myself, funny images I know will get a laugh, or specific things we've gone over in class. Sometimes their level is more than the book, so I add more in. Sometimes they are lower level so I tailor it to be as simple as possible.

It really depends on what you put into it. I find bomb games get the quieter kids excited sometimes because it's easier for them to participate without being singled out as much. On the other hand, you can also use questions like "What's your favorite animal?" to prompt a reply from them, forming a sentence on their own. So a bomb game doesn't have to be a necessarily too-easy form of lesson.

It's been said a million times but variety is key.

OH and another thing. In my classes we make the ENTIRE class say the answer most of the time after the specific group takes its turn.
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Re: Bomb games are a sign of a lazy teacher
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2013, 11:58:17 AM »
I so frequently tell the class to say things together over and over, one time a student asked what "everyone" means, as in "Everyone, one more time...!" Another student said "It means the teacher wants us to say something." :laugh:

There are ways to make bomb games a fun and productive part of class time. A good teacher can lead almost any activity and maintain certain expectations. I'd wager that most people complaining about bomb games being lazy and pointless usually themselves treat bomb games as an opportunity to be lazy too.

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Re: Bomb games are a sign of a lazy teacher
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2013, 01:21:13 PM »
A complaint I've heard from Korean teachers is that NETs rely too heavily on bomb games. I've been to several of those required "teaching conferences", and this has come up, particularly over the last two years.

Having said that, I totally blame the English program in Korea. You do *not* hire a bunch of people who've never taught before and throw them into a classroom, having only a nine day orientation be their introduction to teaching.

If they wanted to optimize the NETs effectiveness in the classroom, they would have bi-weekly meetings during the teachers off period at school (and god knows we have enough time to kill during the week), where new, first year teachers are TAUGHT how to teach by NETs who have been here longer and KTs (you can probably throw in co-teachers in this too, as I've had several of them over the years who are just as clueless in the English classroom as NETs fresh off the boat).

It's so freaking simple. Just tell new teachers where the resource materials online are, give them pointers on how to teach class and how to sync with their co-teachers, and you'd probably see a significant drop in a lot of the issues that the English program deals with.

If NETs in different provinces were able to get together once every two or three weeks for several hours and go over their most effective lesson plans and their most effective teaching methods, I truly think the teaching abilities overall of NETs, particularly first year NETs, would improve significantly.

Really, just about anything is better than throwing a clueless employee into the water and saying "Swim", which is the current method. But in order for Korea to do this, they'd have to acknowledge second, third, fourth, and so on NETs as a valuable part of the educational system, and they seem totally disinterested in doing that.

They do not want to put us in any type of position of power in the education system here, and thus, you get a lot of new NETs relying on bomb games.

And I agree, personally, I hate bomb games, and I use them, to be honest, only when I'm too lazy to plan something else. Maybe other people use them more effectively, but the last thing I want to do is be standing behind the desk pressing a button. It's so boring and it drives me nuts.

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Re: Bomb games are a sign of a lazy teacher
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2013, 01:30:30 PM »
Well lets be honest most people here are pretty lazy.

What really do the NETs have invested into Korea? No one really gives us an opportunity to move up. A guy here for 7 years is the same as someone for 1. Same opportunities and everything. Only diff is the pay grade (which will cap out)

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Re: Bomb games are a sign of a lazy teacher
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2013, 02:03:13 PM »
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Well lets be honest most people here are pretty lazy.

If we're going to "be honest", let's just say most people in general are pretty lazy. That, however, has no baring on what you wrote next:

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What really do the NETs have invested into Korea? No one really gives us an opportunity to move up. A guy here for 7 years is the same as someone for 1. Same opportunities and everything.

Which in most cases is true. If most people are lazy, it's an awful idea to take away what may motivate them, such as job growth. I mean, that's why job growth is written into so many job descriptions, because anyone who has ever worked a job understands how important it is.

This is why so many countries suffer a brain drain to places like America, because no matter what anyone says, there's still a lot of opportunity for growth back home for people coming to work there.

Korea is getting, and losing, people with higher education because they resist acknowledging excellence in foreigners. Hence, they keep getting a lot of first year NETs who don't know what to do and so rely on things like bomb games, which are fast, easy, and take no preparation if you aren't the one actually making them.

Don't put people in a position to indulge their inherently lazy natures. God employers excel at not creating conditions like this. We, on the other hand, mostly suffer from bad employers.

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Re: Bomb games are a sign of a lazy teacher
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2013, 05:56:17 PM »
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Hi, Denevius -- heads up on some typos, in case you care..

In this post -- http://www.waygook.org/index.php/topic,62896.msg407483/topicseen.html#new -- you said something "has no baring" (bearing) and also you said "God employers" (good).  But obviously your meaning was clear, so if you don't care, I dig..

Typos.

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Re: Bomb games are a sign of a lazy teacher
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2013, 06:02:18 PM »
Private messages should be kept private.

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Re: Bomb games are a sign of a lazy teacher
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2013, 06:46:55 PM »
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Private messages should be kept private.

Perhaps, but since the message was trying to make clear a post, it seems that it would be better suited seen by those *actually* reading the post: the public.

If the concern, of course, was trying to make sure anyone who cared understood what was attempted to be related.

There was no real reason to tell me about the typos since I already know what I was saying. It makes more sense to tell anyone who may have been confused.

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Re: Bomb games are a sign of a lazy teacher
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2013, 06:49:16 PM »
So edit your original post and keep the cattiness in private messages.

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Re: Bomb games are a sign of a lazy teacher
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2013, 08:09:16 PM »
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So edit your original post and keep the cattiness in private messages.

Ah, I get it.

I got sent this message, and I copied and pasted it here just in case anyone was confused. That's it. That is the extent of the missive.

Someone called 'google jockey' wanted me to know I made a typo (I suppose two typos). Actually, I'm not sure why he/she sent me a private message. It would have made more sense for them to simply correct it on this thread.

So, I relayed the message just in case anyone who cared was confused.

Again, it would have probably been easier if they'd just corrected it here, but there it is. The easier path is not always taken.

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Re: Bomb games are a sign of a lazy teacher
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2013, 08:43:14 PM »
Besides, it's a mistake to take the negativity of this website private. It's better if everything stays out in the open.

 

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