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Re: I'm a new high school teacher ..... HELP!!!
« Reply #140 on: April 05, 2017, 12:48:04 AM »
When am I supposed to go to the bank and pay my bills? (And no, I don't want to do internet banking)
If you have an occasional time where you have to go to the bank, doctor, etc, you simply set up the appointment to be in a time where you have no more remaining classes and ask to go for those. Your coteacher will be able to enter it in for you, as at least where I taught, the time-off requesting thing is entirely in Korean and impossible to navigate without help.

It seems from a quick perusal of the lesson plans that powerpoint presentations are very popular. Do all teachers do this? Several lesson plans seem merely like someone giving a presentation, with zero eliciting of vocab and zero modelling and drilling in the lesson plan.

Not to criticize, but is this how people teach in Korea? It doesn't seem very student focused.
All that means is that the materials people are sharing on here are mostly powerpoint, not that the lessons entail nothing but powerpoint. Some of the people have textbooks that they're using and the powerpoint is supplementing it, with the vocab coming from the text.

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Re: I'm a new high school teacher ..... HELP!!!
« Reply #141 on: April 05, 2017, 10:48:35 AM »
Hey all,

I'm returning to Korea soon to teach in a public high school.

Is there usually a textbook to teach from?, and if there is, how closely is one expected to follow it?

It seems from a quick perusal of the lesson plans that powerpoint presentations are very popular. Do all teachers do this? Several lesson plans seem merely like someone giving a presentation, with zero eliciting of vocab and zero modelling and drilling in the lesson plan.

Not to criticize, but is this how people teach in Korea? It doesn't seem very student focused.

In regards to the desk warming thing, yes, it is BS but moaning and whining isn't going to help.

Hello!  I was in a similar situation about 2 years ago.  In my high school I wasn't given a textbook to follow.  I remember during my first lesson, I gave the students an assignment to survey their tablemates about their likes and dislikes.  It bombed horribly, Korean high school students tend to be more comfortable with the teacher taking the lead.  Don't just lecture for 50 minutes though.  Give them a worksheet and some sort of written task every class.  They are far more comfortable speaking after they have written something down first.  If you decide to do presentations make their classmates take notes so they focus rather than talk to their friends.  Good luck!  I personally loved my time at my high school, be patient and understanding and you should be fine.   

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Re: I'm a new high school teacher ..... HELP!!!
« Reply #142 on: April 05, 2017, 12:46:37 PM »
Hey all,

I'm returning to Korea soon to teach in a public high school.

Is there usually a textbook to teach from?, and if there is, how closely is one expected to follow it?

It seems from a quick perusal of the lesson plans that powerpoint presentations are very popular. Do all teachers do this? Several lesson plans seem merely like someone giving a presentation, with zero eliciting of vocab and zero modelling and drilling in the lesson plan.

Not to criticize, but is this how people teach in Korea? It doesn't seem very student focused.

In regards to the desk warming thing, yes, it is BS but moaning and whining isn't going to help.

if you're planning on teaching high school by doing vocab eliciting and drilling you are going to be in for a rude awakening very quickly.

most high school teachers here don't teach from a textbook and have to do their own lessons. the korean teachers cover the textbook work, and your class is usually 'conversation class' - i.e., 'it's not on the suneung so we don't give a shit and will just sleep, mess around, and generally put as little effort into the class as possible' class.

high school in korea is not like in the West where there is actually discipline and accountability.

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Re: I'm a new high school teacher ..... HELP!!!
« Reply #143 on: April 05, 2017, 01:05:18 PM »
most high school teachers here don't teach from a textbook and have to do their own lessons. the korean teachers cover the textbook work, and your class is usually 'conversation class' - i.e., 'it's not on the suneung so we don't give a shit and will just sleep, mess around, and generally put as little effort into the class as possible' class.

high school in korea is not like in the West where there is actually discipline and accountability.

Even the Korean teachers don't teach that much from the HS textbook.  They just teach the main text for two or three weeks as that will then probably be in the mid-term/final-term test.  That is usually just for the first semester and then for the second semester they focus solely on the uni-entrance test texts. 

There is a high possibility that the OP will be given at least 10% and at most 20% of the students' evaluation for one semester in the form of a speaking test and a writing test.  What we do in our school, as I see the level 2 students twice a week, is for the speaking class there will be a couple of questions from my classes in the test and for the other class, which is loosely textbook-based, there 5% associated with students doing their worksheets.  This does depend on the level of your high school though. 

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Re: I'm a new high school teacher ..... HELP!!!
« Reply #144 on: April 05, 2017, 04:48:04 PM »
Hey all,

I'm returning to Korea soon to teach in a public high school.

Is there usually a textbook to teach from?, and if there is, how closely is one expected to follow it?

It seems from a quick perusal of the lesson plans that powerpoint presentations are very popular. Do all teachers do this? Several lesson plans seem merely like someone giving a presentation, with zero eliciting of vocab and zero modelling and drilling in the lesson plan.

Not to criticize, but is this how people teach in Korea? It doesn't seem very student focused.

In regards to the desk warming thing, yes, it is BS but moaning and whining isn't going to help.

Hello!  I was in a similar situation about 2 years ago.  In my high school I wasn't given a textbook to follow.  I remember during my first lesson, I gave the students an assignment to survey their tablemates about their likes and dislikes.  It bombed horribly, Korean high school students tend to be more comfortable with the teacher taking the lead.  Don't just lecture for 50 minutes though.  Give them a worksheet and some sort of written task every class.  They are far more comfortable speaking after they have written something down first.  If you decide to do presentations make their classmates take notes so they focus rather than talk to their friends.  Good luck!  I personally loved my time at my high school, be patient and understanding and you should be fine.   

OK, cheers for that. I guess I'll have to lower my expectations drastically. I've worked with low-level students in the past and you're right; the classes do work better when they have time to write things down and read from the paper; freer-practice might be beyond most of them.
Did you do much pronunciation work? Phonetic table?
Did you get them out of their seats and come to the board?

I wasn't hoping to reinvent the wheel, but I was hoping to bring some new ideas and learning styles and actually try and make a difference rather than dazzle them with a powerpoint presentation and wait for pay day.

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Re: I'm a new high school teacher ..... HELP!!!
« Reply #145 on: April 05, 2017, 04:57:06 PM »
Hey all,

I'm returning to Korea soon to teach in a public high school.

Is there usually a textbook to teach from?, and if there is, how closely is one expected to follow it?

It seems from a quick perusal of the lesson plans that powerpoint presentations are very popular. Do all teachers do this? Several lesson plans seem merely like someone giving a presentation, with zero eliciting of vocab and zero modelling and drilling in the lesson plan.

Not to criticize, but is this how people teach in Korea? It doesn't seem very student focused.

In regards to the desk warming thing, yes, it is BS but moaning and whining isn't going to help.

if you're planning on teaching high school by doing vocab eliciting and drilling you are going to be in for a rude awakening very quickly.

most high school teachers here don't teach from a textbook and have to do their own lessons. the korean teachers cover the textbook work, and your class is usually 'conversation class' - i.e., 'it's not on the suneung so we don't give a shit and will just sleep, mess around, and generally put as little effort into the class as possible' class.

high school in korea is not like in the West where there is actually discipline and accountability.

So you get full job satisfaction then?  ;D

Let me explain my previous comment. I was looking at a powerpoint presentation of the "feelings" lesson. I was just wondering about the wisdom of going to the trouble of finding a good picture such as someone looking sad, and then writing "sad" in English and Korean, which made the picture redundant. Why not lose the words which is giving them the answer and see if someone in the class knows sad in English already. You can then model and drill the word sad. Am I asking for too much?

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Re: I'm a new high school teacher ..... HELP!!!
« Reply #146 on: April 05, 2017, 05:11:22 PM »
Hey all,

I'm returning to Korea soon to teach in a public high school.

Is there usually a textbook to teach from?, and if there is, how closely is one expected to follow it?

It seems from a quick perusal of the lesson plans that powerpoint presentations are very popular. Do all teachers do this? Several lesson plans seem merely like someone giving a presentation, with zero eliciting of vocab and zero modelling and drilling in the lesson plan.

Not to criticize, but is this how people teach in Korea? It doesn't seem very student focused.

In regards to the desk warming thing, yes, it is BS but moaning and whining isn't going to help.

Hello!  I was in a similar situation about 2 years ago.  In my high school I wasn't given a textbook to follow.  I remember during my first lesson, I gave the students an assignment to survey their tablemates about their likes and dislikes.  It bombed horribly, Korean high school students tend to be more comfortable with the teacher taking the lead.  Don't just lecture for 50 minutes though.  Give them a worksheet and some sort of written task every class.  They are far more comfortable speaking after they have written something down first.  If you decide to do presentations make their classmates take notes so they focus rather than talk to their friends.  Good luck!  I personally loved my time at my high school, be patient and understanding and you should be fine.   

OK, cheers for that. I guess I'll have to lower my expectations drastically. I've worked with low-level students in the past and you're right; the classes do work better when they have time to write things down and read from the paper; freer-practice might be beyond most of them.
Did you do much pronunciation work? Phonetic table?
Did you get them out of their seats and come to the board?

I wasn't hoping to reinvent the wheel, but I was hoping to bring some new ideas and learning styles and actually try and make a difference rather than dazzle them with a powerpoint presentation and wait for pay day.

You sound perfect for high school then!  A lot more freedom means you can try different things.  I usually introduced a topic with a PPT or a brainstorming session with the class.  I personally didn't use bomb games for the high schoolers, I made my class more of a presentation class.  Introduce a topic or sentence and have them write about it.  Afterwards I would do presentations or speaking activities related to what they wrote.  I didn't work on pronunciation, the ones that need the most help will most likely not participate, sadly. 

Giving each table points for participation is a good motivator.  Koreans are very competitive so make sure to display the points.  I had each student make an English notebook that they handed in after every class.  I made a show of grading it, even if the records didn't really matter.  High schoolers care a lot about their grade, so seeing a 8/8 score on the notebook matters.  I was able to get people to write on the board and even play charades.  Using whiteboards was a big hit as well.  I had them make posters as a class project, making their own country was a hit with the 2nd graders, but 1st graders hated my make your own sport project.

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Re: I'm a new high school teacher ..... HELP!!!
« Reply #147 on: April 05, 2017, 05:42:40 PM »
^

Thanks for the feedback. I was hoping to do some choral repetition and try some individual repetition and have the phonetic table for everyone to see. I'm pretty laid back in class and usually students respond well to that style, but I know Korean teens can be very shy.

I taught elementary for three years and I'm fully aware of the competitiveness. It can work in your favour if you can channel it.

Did you use any task based learning books like Cutting Edge? I love that book.

 

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