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Re: Anyone try those genetic ancestry tests?
« Reply #40 on: May 15, 2017, 12:53:44 PM »
Too be honest sometime I look at someone and wonder "Umm I wonder what their ethnicity is"   but 95% of the time I don't ask or they volunteer that information based on a conversation we have but I'm not one to ask "SO WHERE ARE YOU FROM ORIGINALLY" because as a POC myself I hate being asked that question because as an American the person asking that question usually wants to put me in my place and make me an other.

Can you believe that because I showed someone a card that had my last name on it someone had the audacity to say to me "Wait a minute you teach English here?!?!  Really!?!?  I don't believe you?  Aren't you teaching your own language here?  Even after I told that dumbf**k that I was an American from Texas.   Ugh so yeah I NEVER ASK THE 'WHAT ARE YOU QUESTION'  even though I'm curious myself. 

I figure at the rate that most people tend to be dating a lot of us are going to be mixed with Asian, African, or something from Latin America. 

And that's not to say that racism won't exist in the future.  It still will but it will be based on colorism and classism.  Look at Brazil  though they are a very multi ethic country  you still have discrimination based on how light skinned you are, now textured your hair is, and what economic system you belong to.  Yes you are black but if you are Hally Barry black you get treated better than a Lupita Nyong'o black and that's a damn shame.   

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Re: Anyone try those genetic ancestry tests?
« Reply #41 on: May 15, 2017, 01:00:44 PM »
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Too be honest sometime I look at someone and wonder "Umm I wonder what their ethnicity is" 
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I hate being asked that question because as an American the person asking that question usually wants to put me in my place and make me an other.

So when you're curious about someone's ethnicity it's for entirely innocent reasons but when someone else wants to know about yours it's because they want to 'put you in your place' and make you 'an other'? (whatever that means)



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Re: Anyone try those genetic ancestry tests?
« Reply #42 on: May 15, 2017, 02:59:03 PM »
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Too be honest sometime I look at someone and wonder "Umm I wonder what their ethnicity is" 
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I hate being asked that question because as an American the person asking that question usually wants to put me in my place and make me an other.

So when you're curious about someone's ethnicity it's for entirely innocent reasons but when someone else wants to know about yours it's because they want to 'put you in your place' and make you 'an other'? (whatever that means)

I think the issue is usually with how people ask. I worked at a grocery store in university and I'd get people asking where I'm from all the time. I hate that question cuz I'm adopted by very white people who don't know where I'm from and nor do I. Some people were sort of curious but there'd be the odd person, usually older black ladies or an old white dude, who wouldn't let the question go. You can tell if it's someone innocently asking or not by the way they ask it. I even had a dude just straight up tell me I must be from Trinidad cuz I looked like Rhianna... Fun times...

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Re: Anyone try those genetic ancestry tests?
« Reply #43 on: May 15, 2017, 03:04:40 PM »
Yes it is all based on how you ask.  But really I find sharing my own travel experiences gets answers I maybe curious about.  But otherwise I don't ask.  Because it can be invasive to the person you are asking.  And YES I HAVE asked (rather politely )  "What's your ethnicity" one time in college and the person said in a rather hurried and annoyed way "CAN I JUST BE A HUMAN PLEASE!!!"  So that taught me my lesson as I have been on both ends of the conversation.   
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Re: Anyone try those genetic ancestry tests?
« Reply #44 on: May 15, 2017, 03:18:00 PM »
How you ask and context. 
Eg. Does the person have an accent?  Are they talking about things back home? Go ahead, ask them where they are from.

Or are you asking just because they are a poc?  Because that is pretty ignorant, especially if you don't know the person well.  Get to know the person, and then maybe ask about ethnicity.  Considering the thread, think about the fact that the person you're asking might not even know.

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Re: Anyone try those genetic ancestry tests?
« Reply #45 on: May 15, 2017, 03:27:01 PM »
Someone once asked me where I was from and it was harrowing. I vomited and tried to stop it by putting my hand to my mouth. The vomited cam eout like a sprinkler. The guy who asked me just laughed.

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Re: Anyone try those genetic ancestry tests?
« Reply #46 on: May 15, 2017, 03:57:14 PM »
How you ask and context. 
Eg. Does the person have an accent?  Are they talking about things back home? Go ahead, ask them where they are from.

Or are you asking just because they are a poc?  Because that is pretty ignorant, especially if you don't know the person well.  Get to know the person, and then maybe ask about ethnicity.  Considering the thread, think about the fact that the person you're asking might not even know.


That's how to do it! 

and zola you really should go see a doctor if you are having that kind of reaction to people.  I'm surprise getting asking "What are you" doesn't make you s**t your pants  :cheesy: :cheesy:  I thought it usually did  :laugh:

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Re: Anyone try those genetic ancestry tests?
« Reply #47 on: May 15, 2017, 04:08:23 PM »
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Or are you asking just because they are a poc?  Because that is pretty ignorant, especially if you don't know the person well.  Get to know the person, and then maybe ask about ethnicity.  Considering the thread, think about the fact that the person you're asking might not even know.

How about if you're asking someone who's a poc but not because they're a poc?

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Re: Anyone try those genetic ancestry tests?
« Reply #48 on: May 15, 2017, 04:19:23 PM »
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Or are you asking just because they are a poc?  Because that is pretty ignorant, especially if you don't know the person well.  Get to know the person, and then maybe ask about ethnicity.  Considering the thread, think about the fact that the person you're asking might not even know.

How about if you're asking someone who's a poc but not because they're a poc?

If you know the person, or are getting to know the person, then sure.  As long as your not going to follow up with "But where are you ORIGINALLY from?"  Once again, it's context and how you ask.
Just keep in mind that a lot of poc are asked "Where are you from?" based solely on the fact that they're not white. 

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Re: Anyone try those genetic ancestry tests?
« Reply #49 on: May 15, 2017, 04:31:44 PM »
I was on the Ancestry.com site with the DNA kit in my shopping cart ready to buy, and I decided to look for comments online. Some people mentioned that DNA sites like 23andMe also look for genetic diseases in your family line and sell your information to medical companies. Has anybody gotten contacted by a medical company after taking his or her test?

It's typical for people from my ethnic heritage to have mixed roots. My cousin took a DNA test and confirmed from my mom's side that we are mixed. I've been curious about my dad's side and almost clicked the buy button, but I wanted to wait a bit longer before giving it a go.

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Re: Anyone try those genetic ancestry tests?
« Reply #50 on: May 15, 2017, 04:40:43 PM »
I was on the Ancestry.com site with the DNA kit in my shopping cart ready to buy, and I decided to look for comments online. Some people mentioned that DNA sites like 23andMe also look for genetic diseases in your family line and sell your information to medical companies. Has anybody gotten contacted by a medical company after taking his or her test?

They don't sell your info.  They sell anonymous, aggregate genetic data for research, and only if you give consent.  So there won't be any medical companies contacting you.

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Re: Anyone try those genetic ancestry tests?
« Reply #51 on: May 15, 2017, 04:51:22 PM »
I was on the Ancestry.com site with the DNA kit in my shopping cart ready to buy, and I decided to look for comments online. Some people mentioned that DNA sites like 23andMe also look for genetic diseases in your family line and sell your information to medical companies. Has anybody gotten contacted by a medical company after taking his or her test?

They don't sell your info.  They sell anonymous, aggregate genetic data for research, and only if you give consent.  So there won't be any medical companies contacting you.

Many places are passing laws preventing insurance companies from rating or discrimination based on DNA testing.

The idea is that it is better to have info to treat conditions early than to not know until it is too late.

Proponents of these laws don't want people choosing not to know out of fear of not being insurable.

It will be interesting to see how these stand up in court.


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Re: Anyone try those genetic ancestry tests?
« Reply #52 on: May 15, 2017, 05:01:54 PM »
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Too be honest sometime I look at someone and wonder "Umm I wonder what their ethnicity is" 
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I hate being asked that question because as an American the person asking that question usually wants to put me in my place and make me an other.

So when you're curious about someone's ethnicity it's for entirely innocent reasons but when someone else wants to know about yours it's because they want to 'put you in your place' and make you 'an other'? (whatever that means)

I think the issue is usually with how people ask. I worked at a grocery store in university and I'd get people asking where I'm from all the time. I hate that question cuz I'm adopted by very white people who don't know where I'm from and nor do I. Some people were sort of curious but there'd be the odd person, usually older black ladies or an old white dude, who wouldn't let the question go. You can tell if it's someone innocently asking or not by the way they ask it. I even had a dude just straight up tell me I must be from Trinidad cuz I looked like Rhianna... Fun times...

Rihanna is from Barbados.

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Re: Anyone try those genetic ancestry tests?
« Reply #53 on: May 15, 2017, 05:05:58 PM »
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Or are you asking just because they are a poc?  Because that is pretty ignorant, especially if you don't know the person well.  Get to know the person, and then maybe ask about ethnicity.  Considering the thread, think about the fact that the person you're asking might not even know.

How about if you're asking someone who's a poc but not because they're a poc?

If you know the person, or are getting to know the person, then sure.  As long as your not going to follow up with "But where are you ORIGINALLY from?"  Once again, it's context and how you ask.
Just keep in mind that a lot of poc are asked "Where are you from?" based solely on the fact that they're not white.

Yeah I don't mind answering "canada" to people but it's when they poke around more and won't drop it. But it's more of an issue for me because I don't actually have an answer for them but people don't accept that even after I tell them I legit have no clue. Another thing is it seems to happen more if you're mixed. If people are really pi**ing me off about it I just tell them "something white and something black". In Korea people usually assume I'm from India which is interesting. I don't get mad at Koreans for asking because I live in super rural Korea where they rarely see any diversity. They're curious and don't usually have the English skills to pull a "but where are you REEEEEEEALLY from". If you're age 6-40 and lived your whole life in Toronto, you best not pull out that emphasized "REEEEEEEEEALLLYYYYY" unless you wanna get some stinkeye.

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Re: Anyone try those genetic ancestry tests?
« Reply #54 on: May 15, 2017, 05:07:39 PM »
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Too be honest sometime I look at someone and wonder "Umm I wonder what their ethnicity is" 
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I hate being asked that question because as an American the person asking that question usually wants to put me in my place and make me an other.

So when you're curious about someone's ethnicity it's for entirely innocent reasons but when someone else wants to know about yours it's because they want to 'put you in your place' and make you 'an other'? (whatever that means)

I think the issue is usually with how people ask. I worked at a grocery store in university and I'd get people asking where I'm from all the time. I hate that question cuz I'm adopted by very white people who don't know where I'm from and nor do I. Some people were sort of curious but there'd be the odd person, usually older black ladies or an old white dude, who wouldn't let the question go. You can tell if it's someone innocently asking or not by the way they ask it. I even had a dude just straight up tell me I must be from Trinidad cuz I looked like Rhianna... Fun times...

Rihanna is from Barbados.

Yeah, tell him that XD According to him, she's from Trinidad XD

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Re: Anyone try those genetic ancestry tests?
« Reply #55 on: May 15, 2017, 10:54:53 PM »
For what it's worth, even white people can get it depending on the situation.

I had a teacher at an elementary school ask me where I'm from and when I said America, she started asking me if I'm actually from France. It took a few minutes before my co-teacher came by and confirmed that I really am American. I'd told her in English and multiple ways in Korean. She wouldn't believe me.

Apparently, I look French...

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Re: Anyone try those genetic ancestry tests?
« Reply #56 on: May 16, 2017, 04:36:23 PM »
I tried 23andMe, but they don't ship here to Korea. Has anybody shipped their kit to Korea without any issues?

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Re: Anyone try those genetic ancestry tests?
« Reply #57 on: May 16, 2017, 06:55:00 PM »
Logged in to see if they received my sample yet (they haven't) and found a little video people thinking about the test might want to see.

 https://vimeo.com/184477707



 www.livingdna.com

And they ship to Korea and they are having a sale now (USA version).

Also when you order you get a lifetime membership, so in the future as the testing gets better and for family matching your results will be included (if you want).
 

I don't work for them.
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Re: Anyone try those genetic ancestry tests?
« Reply #58 on: May 17, 2017, 10:55:31 PM »
I tried 23andMe, but they don't ship here to Korea. Has anybody shipped their kit to Korea without any issues?
If they don't ship to Korea, your options are:
1) Use a reshipper who gives you a US address to ship to that'll then send it to here. There are many to choose from.
2) Ship it to family who ships it UPS/Fedex/mail.
3) Find a military guy and use his/her APO address (they might not ship to APO, though).

 

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