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Teaching, but not English?
« on: May 09, 2022, 02:10:47 pm »
So for a bit of background... I have a degree in music education from a four year college in the US. My end goal is to teach music, but I took this year to explore some options and teach English here in Korea. I will preface what I'm about to say with this: I love it here and I truly do not mind teaching English here. It has so far been a wonderful experience and I do not regret it one bit. I do, however, really really miss teaching music.

I've done some research and have seen people posting about international schools offering music teaching jobs, but opened this thread/topic to gain some advice from you all on this site!

Has anyone gone the route of teaching in international schools? If so, how did you find the jobs? When do they usually open up? Are recruiters able to help with applying to international schools to teach anything other than English? Any and all advice is appreciated!

Thanks ahead for your help :) (also, I'm so sorry if this is a thread that exists already, still trying to learn how to navigate this site)


  • waygo0k
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Re: Teaching, but not English?
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2022, 02:28:58 pm »
From a legal (visa) perspective, the only way(s) to legally teach music in formal education in Korea would be to either have an F-series visa (permanent residency, married to a Korean citizen, have Korean ancestry), or an E-7 visa (foreign expert). International schools in Korea can only hire teachers on E-7 visas, which you might qualify for (you already have the correct degree, your experience and/or licensure would also come into play)

https://www.seoulforeign.org/employment/faqs

https://immikorea.com/en/e-7-visa-foreign-employment/

From a professional point of view, in order to teach at one of Korea's proper international schools, you really should (or must tbh) be a qualified and/or licensed teacher. Your degree in Music Education puts you in this category, though your experience level would also be taken into consideration. Korea doesn't have many international schools, meaning competition for jobs is high...but with the right timing and luck, anything is possible.

Places to look for jobs are:

Search Associates
Schrole
ISS International School Services)
TES

Hiring season typically starts in October/November for the following school year (following September), and lasts till May/June-ish, though most positions would already be gone by February.

I cannot state this enough...DO NOT entertain offers from schools who want you to teach music on an E-2 visa http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20170622000872

Good luck!!


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Re: Teaching, but not English?
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2022, 01:46:09 am »
Hi, Did you get a job of teaching music? I have an idea for that. How about teaching both music and English at Hagwon? Please contact me at 010-9872-3221. You can text or kakao me.


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Re: Teaching, but not English?
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2022, 10:15:07 am »
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Re: Teaching, but not English?
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2022, 02:45:16 pm »


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Re: Teaching, but not English?
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2022, 09:15:02 pm »
Hi, Did you get a job of teaching music? I have an idea for that. How about teaching both music and English at Hagwon? Please contact me at 010-9872-3221. You can text or kakao me.

Buyer beware.

To major in music no joke...but to see it through and finish, is on another level. 

So...the guy /gal in quotes is most likely going to suggest teaching both realms, but for a miserly salary, bet. 

Music major:  Do NOT go with the aforementioned person, wanting you to call him/her.  #walkaway. Have some respect for your field.


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Re: Teaching, but not English?
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2022, 02:06:17 pm »
Has anyone heard of history teacher jobs for foreigners in Korea?


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Re: Teaching, but not English?
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2022, 09:43:30 am »
If you're really in China, stay there if you want to teach history.
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Re: Teaching, but not English?
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2022, 12:56:59 pm »
Has anyone heard of history teacher jobs for foreigners in Korea?


There are probably a few, but all will be certified teachers back home (as they are teaching at legit international schools), and most probably have a Korean spouse, as that's about the only way to get the visa.  You can teach only English on the E visa.


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Re: Teaching, but not English?
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2022, 11:21:41 pm »
There isn't a visa to teach history if you're licensed to do it in your home country? Korea be weird, man...
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Re: Teaching, but not English?
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2022, 02:27:57 am »
Consider teaching on Jeju Island.

It is a "special self-governing province" that is more like a state (sends tax to the capital but governs itself independently as it sees fit).

Jeju allows E-2 visa teachers to teacher at international schools and to teach certainly a half decade plus (er, f it: i did so for 7 years at one hagwon there), teaching American textbooks, an international curriculum, the same students 5 days a week, teaching one day math, others science, social sciences, music (this and art i deferred/passed to other teachers much more skilled), etc. (I,  every week a debate class, a short story/diary class).

Jeju EMBRACES topic-focused teachers. There are several international schools and a few large hagwons that will let teachers teach their subject areas.

This week i celebrated my 20th anniversary teaching in South Korea (arrived election day '02 when Rho Mu-hyun was elected, i teaching the very next day). And while I'm in my 6th year back on the mainland, on the same kind of E-2 visa i was on all along (transferred from Geoje to Hadong; from Jeju to here), the teaching during my 7 years on Jeju was so different, and immi was a JOY to deal with compared to what i faced before and since. Education is important to Koreans but the Jeju gov't takes it to another level: they bend backwards to accommodate.
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Re: Teaching, but not English?
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2022, 07:36:07 am »
Bend any way you want and I'd be happy to accommodate you, Van!   8)
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  • Augustiner
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Re: Teaching, but not English?
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2022, 09:07:08 am »

 the teaching during my 7 years on Jeju was so different, and immi was a JOY to deal with compared to what i faced before and since.


You have problems with Korean immigration?  They've certainly been busy at times, but since they started requiring you to book an appointment long waits are no longer an issue.  They've always been polite and efficient.  I once shared an appointment time with some Canadian guy who was trying to engage the immigration officer in a language exchange but she would have no part in it.  They're focused and busy and get the job done.  I wonder why you're having so much difficulty with them?  Do you prepare your documents properly.  I always look forward to my visit to immigration.  School lets me go after class and getting my updated card is a breeze.  Then I am able to enjoy an early finish on a weekday.    It IS a joy!


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Re: Teaching, but not English?
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2022, 09:17:06 am »
  I once shared an appointment time with some Canadian guy who was trying to engage the immigration officer in a language exchange but she would have no part in it. 

To all concerned, this is genuinely how I met Augustiner. Yes, really. hahaha
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Re: Teaching, but not English?
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2022, 09:21:38 am »
Were you doing a hangook77 and trying to flirt with a poor girl doing her job who can't escape?


  • Augustiner
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Re: Teaching, but not English?
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2022, 09:27:10 am »
To all concerned, this is genuinely how I met Augustiner. Yes, really. hahaha

HaHaHa, I wasn't sure if I should add more detail.  I figured you'd pick up on that hahahaha


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Re: Teaching, but not English?
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2022, 09:43:21 am »
Kevin makes himself known in the room.
He smiles and ignores those who listen instead of talk.
At least once, i recall vividly.
Help others, especially animals. Say what you think, being considerate of others. Appreciate more than deprecate. Teach well and jump on teachable moments. Enjoy Korea as it is, without changing it. Yet, at times, change your life for the better. "The most important [thing] is to have a good day."


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Re: Teaching, but not English?
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2022, 09:52:27 am »
Were you doing a hangook77 and trying to flirt with a poor girl doing her job who can't escape?

The language exchange part is not true. hahahaha But we did meet at immigration. Augustiner and I being the only English speakers there (staff included).
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Re: Teaching, but not English?
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2022, 10:05:49 am »
I must be pretty influential and memorable if you still remember an interaction from a decade ago.

And yes, I'm a talker and talk to other talkers.
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Re: Teaching, but not English?
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2022, 10:32:32 am »
You have problems with Korean immigration?  They've certainly been busy at times, but since they started requiring you to book an appointment long waits are no longer an issue.  They've always been polite and efficient.  I once shared an appointment time with some Canadian guy who was trying to engage the immigration officer in a language exchange but she would have no part in it.  They're focused and busy and get the job done.  I wonder why you're having so much difficulty with them?  Do you prepare your documents properly.  I always look forward to my visit to immigration.  School lets me go after class and getting my updated card is a breeze.  Then I am able to enjoy an early finish on a weekday.    It IS a joy!

Ditto. I have nothing but positive experiences with Korean Immigration. Always efficient, professional yet still reasonably friendly.
On top of that, they have bent the rules in my favor 3 times in the past:
I got a one month extension on a tourist visa by simply asking.
I got a 2 year extension on my spousal visa at the second renewal. (Not the norm at all) Again, just asked nicely.
Because of some housing contract date confusion, I failed to report my change of address on time. They could've fined me but didn't. In fact, they sent me to a different floor where the fines were supposed to be paid. The officer there just told me to make sure it doesn't happen again.

Also, my spousal visa application and the whole process was very straightforward, easy and incredibly fast.
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